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penguinz 11-20-2005 10:00 PM

Kendrell Bell?
 
Not a single tackle. Where the fuçk is he?

milkman 11-20-2005 10:01 PM

Who?

Miles 11-20-2005 10:03 PM

Can't say I know the name.

the Talking Can 11-20-2005 10:03 PM

seriously, is even playing?

nychief 11-20-2005 10:03 PM

Other than the killing McGahee last week - I have not seen him much.

JBucc 11-20-2005 10:04 PM

Was he a free agent pick up or did we trade for him? Either way it was a waste

Deberg_1990 11-20-2005 10:05 PM

Hes turning out to be as valuable to this team as Vonnie Holliday was.

the Talking Can 11-20-2005 10:07 PM

I think he's somewhere hiding his money.

Miles 11-20-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Hes turning out to be as valuable to this team as Vonnie Holliday was.

Holliday at least had a few good games early in his first year with us.

Phobia 11-20-2005 10:10 PM

I don't know if you are aware....

We kinda frown on idiots circumventing our profanity filters. Take a couple days to think about it.

iachief 11-20-2005 10:12 PM

Maybe the chiefs should retire #99

nychief 11-20-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I don't know if you are aware....

We kinda frown on idiots circumventing our profanity filters. Take a couple days to think about it.


this is a family site buck-o!

kcxiv 11-20-2005 10:23 PM

Alot of 3 wide sets. Chiefs go to nickle and he is out.

jspchief 11-20-2005 10:23 PM

It's too bad Fox and Griffin got injured. I would have liked to see more of them to see if we could stand to cut Bell next year.

I was a Bell defender early in the year, but something is fucked up when a LB is that invisible.

Rain Man 11-20-2005 10:37 PM

It was interesting seeing the early play where Carr was running toward the sidelines. Kawika Mitchell blew by Bell like he was standing still to make the play.

snatch 11-21-2005 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I don't know if you are aware....

We kinda frown on idiots circumventing our profanity filters. Take a couple days to think about it.

LOL. That is hilarious. This board is all about circumventing decency.

btw... Next time at least email the member about why they are banned so they don't have to reg a new name to find out why they are banned.

stumppy 11-21-2005 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man
It was interesting seeing the early play where Carr was running toward the sidelines. Kawika Mitchell blew by Bell like he was standing still to make the play.

Was that Bell ?
I thought it was one of those red endzone markers.

Cormac 11-21-2005 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man
It was interesting seeing the early play where Carr was running toward the sidelines. Kawika Mitchell blew by Bell like he was standing still to make the play.

Don't you mean Ka-VEE-ka Mitchell?

*confused

Bob Dole 11-21-2005 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormac
Don't you mean Ka-VEE-ka Mitchell?

*confused

Bob Dole noticed that last night, too.

Bob Dole didn't get a media guide this year. Is that what the thing says?

jspchief 11-21-2005 08:45 AM

I always thought it was pronounced Kavika...

jiveturkey 11-21-2005 09:17 AM

Warfield has more tackles than Bell and he missed the first 4 games.

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-21-2005 09:25 AM

Maybe he could change his first name to Bobby.

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-21-2005 09:27 AM

I believe it's Ka-week-a...... that's what everyone always said until last night. Of course the w can easily look like two v's.

jspchief 11-21-2005 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me
Maybe he could change his first name to Bobby.

I hope the Chiefs change his first name to "Free Agent".

bringbackmarty 11-21-2005 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief
this is a family site buck-o!

yeah thats why we have all those pictures in peoples signatures and avatars. put the profanity there.

Pants 11-21-2005 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me
I believe it's Ka-week-a...... that's what everyone always said until last night. Of course the w can easily look like two v's.

According to Kawika, it's pronounced Ka-vee-ka.

TRR 11-21-2005 09:43 AM

Bell is being used completely wrong. His strength is blitzing - whether it be in the run or the passing game. I rarely ever see Bell blitz, and he gets taken out on passing downs.

Until Gun gives him a chance to make some plays, he'll continue to be non-existent.

On the play that Carr rolled outside the pocket, Bell was trailing Carr, coming all the way from the other side of the field. All Mitchell had to do was come up from his 10 yard drop in the middle of the field.

BigRedChief 11-21-2005 09:45 AM

He was suppose to be this monster LB. The only mark against him is that he was always hurt. He's not hurt. He's not playing well. Is it because King Carl picked him up in FA and now its just bad karma? Is it the scheme? Is he secretly hurt?Something ain't right.

TRR 11-21-2005 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
He was suppose to be this monster LB. The only mark against him is that he was always hurt. He's not hurt. He's not playing well. Is it because King Carl picked him up in FA and now its just bad karma? Is it the scheme? Is he secretly hurt?Something ain't right.

Scheme. He has played his entire career in a 3-4 D, where he had two primary responsibilities. Kill the running back, and kill the QB. Bell has been decent filling holes in the running game, but he is rarely afforded the opportunity to rush the QB.

jspchief 11-21-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
Scheme. He has played his entire career in a 3-4 D, where he had two primary responsibilities. Kill the running back, and kill the QB. Bell has been decent filling holes in the running game, but he is rarely afforded the opportunity to rush the QB.

When we rush 2 LBs, he's almost always one of them. He gets stoned at the line every time.

He sucks. He may have been good or fast in the past, but he isn't now. He's on pace for 33 tackles this season. That's inexcusable for a LB.

I had high hopes for Bell, but he clearly is not going to be worth his 2006 cap hit.

Bowser 11-21-2005 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
When we rush 2 LBs, he's almost always one of them. He gets stoned at the line every time.

He sucks. He may have been good or fast in the past, but he isn't now. He's on pace for 33 tackles this season. That's inexcusable for a LB.

I had high hopes for Bell, but he clearly is not going to be worth his 2006 cap hit.

Yep, agree. Especially when you back it up with a statement like this....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey
Warfield has more tackles than Bell and he missed the first 4 games.

:spock:

HemiEd 11-21-2005 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
Scheme. He has played his entire career in a 3-4 D, where he had two primary responsibilities. Kill the running back, and kill the QB. Bell has been decent filling holes in the running game, but he is rarely afforded the opportunity to rush the QB.


So do you think that the return of Ryan Sims will help this situation?

Mark M 11-21-2005 10:06 AM

Bell has been a ridiculous dissapointment. Sad and inexcusable.

Thank goodness he signed to a cap friendly deal -- KC can cut his ass without much worry.

MM
~~:bang:

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-21-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike
According to Kawika, it's pronounced Ka-vee-ka.

Well he should know.

Btw... I hope you guys know that my user name is prounced "oh great one."

Mark M 11-21-2005 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me
Btw... I hope you guys know that my user name is prounced "oh great one."

And all this time I was pronouncing it "dumb ass."

My fault ...

MM
~~:p

cdcox 11-21-2005 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man
It was interesting seeing the early play where Carr was running toward the sidelines. Kawika Mitchell blew by Bell like he was standing still to make the play.

I noticed the same thing on that play. Before I looked at the number, I thought it must be a lineman or maybe Maslowski. Bell's whole problem is that he is sloooooow. Assigning him to blitz would be laughable. We need to dump him after the season.

Mark M 11-21-2005 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox
I noticed the same thing on that play. Before I looked at the number, I thought it must be a lineman or maybe Maslowski. Bell's whole problem is that he is sloooooow. Assigning him to blitz would be laughable. We need to dump him after the season.

Which means the Chiefs will keep him and make him the new "falcon" 'backer ... you know, to showcase his talents.

Is it just me, or have the Chiefs lost all ability to pick decent FA linebackers?

MM
~~:banghead:

Johnson&Johnson 11-21-2005 11:12 AM

Bell was a MLB in Pittsburgh under cowher.

I think he's playing completely out of position as a OLB. There's a possibility that this guy is still playing with some fear of reincurring his injury? But I remember watching him when he was in Pittsburgh, he is for real. But looking at his body frame in a chiefs uniform, he looks a little soft. I mean this guy used to be cut .. you can see it from his shoulders and arm. I don't think he's in football form... I'll leave the benefit of the doubt on him til next year. He needs to get his killer instincts back and work himself back in the offseason to be the player he was ...

I used to wonder why the coaches kept him out practices in training camp and pre-season now... they knew he wasn't ready.

But trust me fellas, when Kendrell returns to form...you'd vote him for president!!!!

the Talking Can 11-21-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnson&Johnson
Bell was a MLB in Pittsburgh under cowher.

I think he's playing completely out of position as a OLB. There's a possibility that this guy is still playing with some fear of reincurring his injury? But I remember watching him when he was in Pittsburgh, he's for real. But looking at his body and frame in a chiefs uniform, he looks a little soft. I m ean this guy use to be cut .. you can see it from his shoulders and arm. I don't think he's in football form... I'll leave the benefit of the doubt on him til next year. He needs to get his killer instincts back and work himself back in the offseason to be the player he was ...

he spent the offseason working with Holmes...I doubt he's not in shape

BigChiefFan 11-21-2005 11:18 AM

I don't see how a player who has only played a handful of games can be considered a bust already. Give the guy a chance before sailing him down the river. This eerily sounds like all the LJ bashers.

jidar 11-21-2005 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
I don't see how a player who has only played a handful of games can be considered a bust already. Give the guy a chance before sailing him down the river. This eerily sounds like all the LJ bashers.

He's not a rookie, he should be able to play by now. He's a starting LB for christs sakes.

I don't have a lot of faith in this boards ability to judge talent, usually I differ to what the coaches think, but in this case if there is something there worth being optimistic about I'm not seeing it. He simply isn't doing jack, and the times I've zoomed in on him to watch him, he gets taken out of the play by the first blocker to get to him.

ceebz 11-21-2005 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey
Warfield has more tackles than Bell and he missed the first 4 games.


Correction, Warfield missed the first FIVE games.

Pathetic.

keg in kc 11-21-2005 12:37 PM

I think sometimes we're enamored with the stats that don't matter. We look for flash when substance is what's really important.

Last year we allowed just under 115 yards rushing at 4.6 ypc, and gave up 18 rushing TDs. This year we have what amounts to the same defensive line, but we're giving up less than 90 yards rushing at a 3.9 ypc clip. We've only allowed 5 rushing scores. Kendrell Bell has been a big part of that.

He hasn't been what I thought he'd be, either. I envisioned a big sack total, a blur off the edge, maybe more of a playmaker. What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him. Kawika Mitchell is having the year he's having in no small part because of Bell's play. The same can be said of Derrick Johnson. The fact is, the guy's been involved in a number of plays, and he's been, I think, an important catalyst in the vastly improved rush defense. He's looked more comfortable of late dropping into zone in passing situations, too.

Now, would I like to see a little more pass rush presence? Sure, although frankly we don't seem to use him that way as often as I expected. But I'm not going to complain about what we're getting. He's not a bust, not in any way. The defense is better, clearly and obviously better, particularly at the linebacker position. We're good there, across the board, for the first time in my memory. So Johnson and Mitchell are reaping the benefits of that, building up the big (but ultimately empty) tackle stats. Big deal. Bell's been a part of the equation, too. A big part. We're playing better because he's on the field, same as with Knight and Surtain.

Maybe the stats aren't as flashy as we'd like, but the results, as a unit, are looking pretty good from where I'm sitting.

jiveturkey 11-21-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceebz
Correction, Warfield missed the first FIVE games.

Pathetic.

Right and even worse. :(

Rain Man 11-21-2005 12:40 PM

I still think that Pittsburgh sent us the wrong guy. Every time I see him on the field, I think he looks like a stocky safety, not a linebacker.

Mark M 11-21-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
I think sometimes we're enamored with the stats that don't matter. We look for flash when substance is what's really important.

Last year we allowed just under 115 yards rushing at 4.6 ypc, and gave up 18 rushing TDs. This year we have what amounts to the same defensive line, but we're giving up less than 90 yards rushing at a 3.9 ypc clip. We've only allowed 5 rushing scores. Kendrell Bell has been a big part of that.

He hasn't been what I thought he'd be, either. I envisioned a big sack total, a blur off the edge, maybe more of a playmaker. What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him. Kawika Mitchell is having the year he's having in no small part because of Bell's play. The same can be said of Derrick Johnson. The fact is, the guy's been involved in a number of plays, and he's been, I think, an important catalyst in the vastly improved rush defense. He's looked more comfortable of late dropping into zone in passing situations, too.

Now, would I like to see a little more pass rush presence? Sure, although frankly we don't seem to use him that way as often as I expected. But I'm not going to complain about what we're getting. He's not a bust, not in any way. The defense is better, clearly and obviously better, particularly at the linebacker position. We're good there, across the board, for the first time in my memory. So Johnson and Mitchell are reaping the benefits of that, building up the big (but ultimately empty) tackle stats. Big deal. Bell's been a part of the equation, too. A big part. We're playing better because he's on the field, same as with Knight and Surtain.

Maybe the stats aren't as flashy as we'd like, but the results, as a unit, are looking pretty good from where I'm sitting.

What is this? Logic? A cool head? Key insight?

You sure you're on the right message board? ;)

The fact is, people such as myself and many others don't tape or TiVo a game and then go back and check like some folks here do. All we know is that:

a.) his name has hardly been called.
ii.) his blitzes suck.
C.) he's missed several key tackles.

Now, he could very well be doing the intangible things well. Which is good. But this team needs playmakers ... bad. I'm just not sure he's one of them.

MM
~~:arrow:

the Talking Can 11-21-2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
I think sometimes we're enamored with the stats that don't matter. We look for flash when substance is what's really important.

Last year we allowed just under 115 yards rushing at 4.6 ypc, and gave up 18 rushing TDs. This year we have what amounts to the same defensive line, but we're giving up less than 90 yards rushing at a 3.9 ypc clip. We've only allowed 5 rushing scores. Kendrell Bell has been a big part of that.

He hasn't been what I thought he'd be, either. I envisioned a big sack total, a blur off the edge, maybe more of a playmaker. What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him. Kawika Mitchell is having the year he's having in no small part because of Bell's play. The same can be said of Derrick Johnson. The fact is, the guy's been involved in a number of plays, and he's been, I think, an important catalyst in the vastly improved rush defense. He's looked more comfortable of late dropping into zone in passing situations, too.

Now, would I like to see a little more pass rush presence? Sure, although frankly we don't seem to use him that way as often as I expected. But I'm not going to complain about what we're getting. He's not a bust, not in any way. The defense is better, clearly and obviously better, particularly at the linebacker position. We're good there, across the board, for the first time in my memory. So Johnson and Mitchell are reaping the benefits of that, building up the big (but ultimately empty) tackle stats. Big deal. Bell's been a part of the equation, too. A big part. We're playing better because he's on the field, same as with Knight and Surtain.

Maybe the stats aren't as flashy as we'd like, but the results, as a unit, are looking pretty good from where I'm sitting.

nice post...I hope you're right

Skyy God 11-21-2005 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him.

All well and good, but he's being paid to shed blockers and make plays. His play could very well be an important part of the D's improvement. Or it could be Surtain. Or Knight. Or DJ. Or Mitchell's vast improvement. The bottom line is that his impact is extremely minimal in proportion to his contract.

Lzen 11-21-2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark M
And all this time I was pronouncing it "dumb ass."

My fault ...

MM
~~:p

You, too?
:p


Metrolike,
When have you ever heard/seen Kawika say that it's pronounced Kavika?

Man, this is confusing. Like Patrick Surtain. Is it pronounced Sur- tan(ning lotion) or Sur- tane(rhymes with pain)?

Fish 11-21-2005 02:03 PM

I've defended Bell all year.... I keep saying it's a new scheme, he's getting his confidence back, he's not being utilized correctly..... blah blah...

But the fact is, we're paying him enough to be a playmaker. Yes he's stuffing the line and making a bunch of 3yd stops, but I think we've got young guys that could do the same thing. We brought him in to be a playmaker... and half way through the season he isn't living up to it. I hope it will turn into a Kawika type of growth into the defensive scheme, but I'm not seing it yet. He doesn't seem to be playing with much intensity. He's been an average LB that is getting the job done, but that's it........

wolfpack0735 11-21-2005 02:53 PM

maybe its the new system? i thought he was used to playing the inside? who knows. i thought he`d be making more bigger plays. maybe he has helped mitchell out,so mitchell dosnt have to worry about bell`s side anymore. who knows but the three as a group have been pretty good this year. besides i thought his contract was cheap this year.

MIAdragon 11-21-2005 03:18 PM

He just looks SLOW.

Rain Man 11-21-2005 03:44 PM

If anyone can put up a clip of that early play where Carr was running to the right sidelines with Bell chasing him, I'd appreciate it. It looked like Mitchell was running twice the speed of Bell, but the disparity was so large that I have to think that it was just an angle oddity or something.

Bob Dole 11-21-2005 03:51 PM

For the record:

Full name: Kawika Uilani Mitchell (pronounced kuh-VEE-ka).

Source

Scalper 11-21-2005 03:54 PM

He is good if the other team runs the ball or if we blitz him but he cant cover worth a shit

Hydrae 11-21-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Dole
For the record:

Full name: Kawika Uilani Mitchell (pronounced kuh-VEE-ka).

Source

From the same list:

Full name: Patrick Frank Surtain (pronounced SIR-tan).

Alphaman 11-21-2005 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv
Alot of 3 wide sets. Chiefs go to nickle and he is out.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Ahhh a voice of reason. I was at the game and saw that we played probably 70% nickel. Bell was not on the field alot.

Bowser 11-21-2005 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphaman
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Ahhh a voice of reason. I was at the game and saw that we played probably 70% nickel. Bell was not on the field alot.

And we only gave up 10 points on defense? :hmmm:

shaneo69 11-21-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphaman
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Ahhh a voice of reason. I was at the game and saw that we played probably 70% nickel. Bell was not on the field alot.

So he's strictly a two-down player. I thought that was the problem with paying Hartwell the big bucks, that he would never be on the field on 3rd down. If this is the case, Kavika is gonna get a $20 mil signing bonus when he becomes a free agent, simply because he's on the field in all situations.

I'm kind of in Keg's corner here though. As long as the entire defense is playing well, like they have the past 2-3 games, I'm not going to complain about Bell's Lew Bush-like production.

KChiefsQT 11-21-2005 05:25 PM

Bell is a joke.

Is it just me or are people getting banned left and right??? His wife must have left already... no lovin!!

Bowser 11-21-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kchiefsqt
Is it just me or are people getting banned left and right??? His wife must have left already... no lovin!!

Yeah, you lost me. Who are you talking about?

Or is this just the hippie lettuce talking?

Bowser 11-21-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser
Yeah, you lost me. Who are you talking about?

Or is this just the hippie lettuce talking?

Nevermind. penguinz pissed Phobia off by getting around profanity filters somehow. But he's already got another name.

KChiefsQT 11-21-2005 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser
Nevermind. penguinz pissed Phobia off by getting around profanity filters somehow. But he's already got another name.

hahha I see. thanks for the clarification there. :)

Phobia 11-21-2005 06:26 PM

I'm not pissed in the slightest. I have to enforce our rules, unfortunately. I took no pleasure in banning penguinz. He's a great poster.

Pants 11-21-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
You, too?
:p


Metrolike,
When have you ever heard/seen Kawika say that it's pronounced Kavika?

Man, this is confusing. Like Patrick Surtain. Is it pronounced Sur- tan(ning lotion) or Sur- tane(rhymes with pain)?

One of the videos on the Chiefs website.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-21-2005 07:44 PM

Kendrell Bell only played 9 snaps yesterday because the Texans were playing 3-wide the whole game.

Hammock Parties 11-21-2005 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Kendrell Bell only played 9 snaps yesterday because the Texans were playing 3-wide the whole game.

Yep. I noticed it from the very first possession. We came out in nickel a whole bunch.

Sapp played alot and when Surtain got hurt Washington played a bunch.

Hammock Parties 11-21-2005 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I'm not pissed in the slightest. I have to enforce our rules, unfortunately. I took no pleasure in banning penguinz. He's a great poster.

How did he get around the filter? Umlaut?


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