The Chiefs should not resign Tony Gonzales...
 

... when his contract is up. That bastard won't sign autographs.:p


Seriously at most we should give him only 2 more years beyond the 1 year he has remaining, he is almost washed up now. Time to start cutting the ties to him.

get a contract year effort from him first :thumb:

Carl is trying to resign him now and his contract isn't up until next year. He will be signed for 4-6 years.

Tony G might well be the most overrated TE ever.

I am sure that when is contract is up, we wouldn't sign him to a huge contract anyway because of age. Does it really piss people off that much that he doesn't sign autographs?

you missed the LJ "I f^&*ing don't play for Penn State anymore" hate:)

Gonzales sucks. However, they should really try and resign that Gonzalez guy. He has made a few probowls.

Hes our most reliable reciever.While i think Gates took over the best Te In the league,Tony G is nothing to sneeze at.He lead the league in catches just 2 years ago.How many years are left in his contract anyway?

Being a n00b not quite sure what that means.

This is getting ridiculous. Tony had a fine year. He would have had 1,000 yards if Willie Roaf hadn't gotten hurt.

Yeah, and he probably has lead the league for years in fewest tackles broken, and fewest YAC.

He has the 06 season left. But will probably be resigned before the season starts.

Actually Tony had 323 yards after the catch. That was fourth among tight ends (Cooley #1, Gates #2, Shockey #3).

a CP member tried to get LJ to sign some Penn State memorabilia at his(LJ) first Chiefs' training camp. He told him "I don't f'ing play for Penn State anymore." He got a lot of grief here for awhile, for that. I think it's all water under the bridge now :)

Trade away Tony????????? WTF are you people smoking...now I know I have read the dumbest thread ever.......:rolleyes::cuss:

I think Al Saunders hurt TG's production.

I think he will bounce back with MS as our OC

Yep Al hurt his production so much. He was horrible as the #2 TE in the league this year. :rolleyes:

Ok I get it now. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to sign stuff, I guess most people have a problem if they feel that the person is just being a dick about not wanting to sign stuff.

most people got the impression LJ didn't want to be a Chief(in fact he may have said so). But he didn't want to play behind Holmes, he knew his chances would be few & far between. He wanted to start. I doubt anybody holds it against him

I'm not saying he wasn't good, I'm saying he was not the focal point in the passing game.

I was embellishing.

Tony, for his size, seems to go down far easier than he should.

I actually could care less, I was making fun of some of the guys around here who it does upset. He is almost done with his productive years and we need to phase him out.

I cant believe this is an issue right now.Hes washed up?What the heck is going on in Chief nation?
The guy can still put up very good numbers,and attracts a lot of attention from opposing defenses.

You're nuts.

If Gonzalez was not here our passing would not be near as good as it has been the last 4 seasons. Tony draws so much coverage in the middle of the field it makes life easier for our WRs.

Any Chiefs fan that wants to dump Tony Gonzalez is an idiot.

You are a moron. He had 905 yards last season. That ranks as his 4th best season. He is nowhere close to being unproductive.

Totally agree,Tony is still a very good tight end.Hes the least of our problems.

dump no, trade :hmmm:

I said almost done with his productive years, are you not able to read?

Hey Vlad,dont you think calling Tony G a bastard is a little harsh?

Absolutely not. Tony should be a Chief for life.

He definately does. I've never seen him go more than 3 yards after a catch. I can't believe he has more than 300 YAC. Maybe for his whole career.

You said he was almost done with his productive years. You are wrong. His production has not dropped.

You said he was "almost washed up." Nothing could be further from the truth.

You will know when Tony is washed up, because people will be able to cover him with one guy and we will stop racking up 4,000 yards passing.

You are wrong. Tony had a nice 39-yard catch this year which was almost all YAC.

Gonzo has alot of name recognition. If a team wanted to put butts in the seats, they may give up a nice trade. Anybody is tradeable

n00bs :rolleyes:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=16

Injuries and age are catching up to him.

He's never been fast, and he's almost Mark Bavarro slow now.

What game was that? I don't believe it.

LOL, I remember San Diego fans thinking the same thing about Kellen Winslow.

The Dallas game.

Since it is obvious you do not understand the facts, please remove yourself from the debate.

Winslow is a completely different animal. He only had 3 seasons over 800 yards. Gonzalez already has 6.

Our friendly alien got one thing right.

(6:40) T.Green pass to T.Gonzalez to DAL 6 for 39 yards (T.Newman). Pass caught left side of the field at the Dallas 40 before breaking a tackle and turning down left sideline.

fuck you, you fatass eunuch. I still don't believe that he could rumble 39 yards after a catch. The slowest LB in the league could catch him after 10 yards. I'm sure I would remember him creeping down the sidelines for that kind of gain.

Yup Winslow played on teams with two to three excellent Wide Receives. He still average 12.5 ypc compared to Gonzos 12.1. Gonzo has had the advantage of being the only real receiving weapon most of his seasons in KC.

Winslow played in an offense that included Wes Chandler, Charlie Joiner and John Jefferson.

He didn't have to be the focal point of the passing game.

Kellen Winslow, in his prime, was better than Tony G.

Gates, right now, is better than Tony G ever was.

I must have gone to take a piss while that happened.

If Tony doesn't wanna sign autographs, get the **** out. If LJ wants to punch a kid in the face when asked to sign an autograph and light my car on fire...good for him, he stays in KC.

LJ>>>>>>>>>>>>TG

OK, I guess I hallucinated this:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/285...atchrun2ti.gif

I remember that play. He broke away from Roy Williams trying to tackle him.

Hah OK whatever. Gates has never had over 100 catches and 1,258 yards.

Gates has also played his entire career with a dynamite RB and a good QB. Two things that Tony didn't have in KC for awhile.

he sent one of his bitches over to see my kid in the horsepistol. It's all cool

~oh & the car was a POS

It looks like Williams lost his balance before he attempted the tackle.

ROFL ROFL

As unpopular as it may sound, Logical may have the right idea here. TG adds a lot of diversity to our O. However, he costs as much as a top WR but doesn't put up near the #s that a top-tiered WR will put up. Looking also at the fact that when his contract does come up, the door to playoffs success may be slamming shut and we will be entering into full-blown rebuilding, it doesn't make sense to give a big contract to a guy who's career is about over and will be gone once the team rises back to contender status.


I'd love to keep TG, but I think a young, true #1 WR would be more of a benifit to us if I had to choose.

Whatever.

Gonzalez is not washed up, not even close. He has 3 or 4 good years left.

I cannot believe the disrespect this place is giving him. He is in the middle of a hall of fame career.

OH MY GOD.....:rolleyes: I can think of at least 5 teams that would gladly trade us for Tony......how old are you again??? Forget it, I'm done with this thread......:harumph:

Hallucinated what? I don't see anything

:p

He's not really in the middle anymore. I love TG. But at 3-4 years, we have him for 1 year, which means he signs with 2-3 years left of his career. At the same time, we will probably lose Shields and Roaf (provided Shields is even back in 06). Green has 2-3 years tops. Tony's next contract will probably be expensive. He knows it will be his last payday and he will push for as much as he can get. Once these veterans are gone, we're going to need every bit of the cap we can get for their replacements as well as what it will cost us to re-up LJ and any other stars we may have.

As much as I want TG around, $ will be crucial and we may not be able to afford to keep expensive old guys around.

Stats are only a part of the picture.

Gates is faster, and more athletic than Tony is, or ever was.

He also is only going into his fourth season.

Tony, earlier in his career, dropped a lot of catchable balls, and reverted to that somewhat this last season.

Bye

:clap:

Autographs suck.

For players who have to sign them.

For people who feel the need to "get them."

With all the fakes and forgeries, who really gives a fukk anyway....

As long as he's productive, he should finish his career in Red and Yellow. Period.

Michael Vick is faster and more athletic than Joe Montana is, or ever was.

If anything, TG should want to get the **** out of KC and go to a winning organization. He's only caught more passes than anyone ever in red and gold, and what does he have to show for it? Nada.

Rob that part was a joke.

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Excellent post. Autographs are gay.

I'll start hating Gonzalez when he calls out his teammates or flicks off the fans.

And if Vick could throw as well as Montana, and Gonzo could catch as consistently as Gates you would have a point.

We're not talking about the QB position here.

Gates makes all the catches, and has the abilty to do more in the open field.

Cool then...my boy is 10 yrs old.

I think it would be cool for him to remember Tony G. as "the Chiefs" from his growing up years....kinda like I remember George Brett as "the Royals" from my growing up years....

Tony G. IS the Chiefs, from this era. I hope he never wears another uniform. That would degrade it a bit for me....that's all I'm saying, really.

Seriously. Call me when Gates has 8 straight seasons of 50 or more catches.

Gates had a better year last year. That is the only hard truth right now.

One thing I have to give to Gonzo is that his blocking has improved greatly, and since he apparently can no longer catch, I think he should put on 80 pounds and be our new LT.

It goes beyond autographs with TG. He is absolutely an asshole to the fans and especially to kids that look up to him. But to say he sucks on the football field and we should get rid of him is just stupid.

Gates doesn't get double-teamed and held on every play either.

Comprehend much?

I understand but on the other hand do you want to see the Chiefs degrade like we watched the Royals degrade in Brett's latter years? That is what I believe the legacy is for holding on to someone too long.

Who knows what will happen yet. With the shape we are in cap-wise, and TG taking a decent chunk himself this season, and with the fact that about the only thing left that TG doesn't have is a Superbowl, he may opt to sign a cap-friendly extension for 2-3 more years before the season starts.

There is a bit of difference there though. The Royals weren't up against a salary cap, they were just being cheap. Personally, I never really liked Brett, but I thought it was a shame that he wasn't allowed to buy the team.

Anyone remember when Tony G knocked out a camera guy,then to find out he actually saved his life?

If you know the story,you'll know how ironic it was,but at the same time,Tony did care to visit and make sure the camera man was okay.

Doesnt sound like a complete ass to me.

Typical of you logical.
Like a little kid...Tony pissed in my cherrios so he shouldn't play for the Chiefs...

Absolutely, Pastor. :toast:

Communion wine, of course....heh.