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Skip Towne 02-19-2006 01:18 PM

OSU thrashing Texas.
 
This is a very good defensive battle. OSU up 26-19 at the 2 min. mark of the 1st half.

58-4ever 02-19-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
This is a very good defensive battle. OSU up 26-19 at the 2 min. mark of the 1st half.

win one for the alcoholic pill-popper!

Ceej 02-19-2006 01:30 PM

Win one for us KU fans.

Hopefully, and it shouldn't be, this BU game isn't a "trap game." I don't want our guys looking at the UT game. If OSU were to win today that'd lock us in a tie.

What a game that'll be this Saturday. I hope UT runs the zone they are trying to run today. Wright would have a hayday.

banyon 02-19-2006 01:44 PM

wow. this game would be huge for :KU:

1st place tie here we come.

OSU came out strong in 2nd half.

Looks like we arent't the only team that has trouble scoring against the Pokes.

Skip Towne 02-19-2006 01:48 PM

Kick ass D on both sides. JamesOn Curry shooting lights out.

Bearcat 02-19-2006 01:51 PM

If they lost, at least they would have K-State to take their anger out on before playing Kansas.

banyon 02-19-2006 02:07 PM

Texas is flailing.

They look lost out there.

Skip Towne 02-19-2006 02:08 PM

7.5 min. left. OSU by 18

Ceej 02-19-2006 02:11 PM

I love watching UT lose. Their fans are almost as arrogant as Donk fans. Sweaty cockbags.

Bearcat 02-19-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
7.5 min. left. OSU by 18


Holy crap... so much for the staying focused throughout the season talk...

HolmeZz 02-19-2006 02:13 PM

Makes the #1 seeds very clear at the moment:

Duke, UConn, Villanova, Memphis

Reaper16 02-19-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Makes the #1 seeds very clear at the moment:

Duke, UConn, Villanova, Memphis

No doubt.

Mr. Laz 02-19-2006 02:16 PM

a loss by texas right now doesn't do much of anything for KU.

we beat texas and we win the big 12


we lose to texas and we don't ... this game against OSU doesn't make any difference as far as i can tell.


in fact having texas win will actually help KU's RPI when they play them.

Dunit35 02-19-2006 02:17 PM

Texas can win out and all we have to do is beat them and win the rest of our games. We be Big 12 champs if we can do that.

banyon 02-19-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Makes the #1 seeds very clear at the moment:

Duke, UConn, Villanova, Memphis

I like this game a lot!!!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2.../tigerhawk.jpg

banyon 02-19-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
a loss by texas right now doesn't do much of anything for KU.

we beat texas and we win the big 12


we lose to texas and we don't ... this game against OSU doesn't make any difference as far as i can tell.


in fact having texas win will actually help KU's RPI when they play them.

This game doesn't affect out RPI either way.

KU plays both teams on the road, and just one time.

Reaper16 02-19-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

KU would go down.

Lzen 02-19-2006 02:25 PM

UT 45
OSU 62

4:34 left in the game. Funny how a lot of folks were saying that KU should've beaten OSU by a lot more and that we played down to our competition. Wonder if they'll be saying the same thing about the #6 team in the counrty. :rolleyes:

banyon 02-19-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16
KU would go down.

In a game between the two?

Maybe. They are very similar teams in terms of depth, talent, and experience.

HolmeZz 02-19-2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16
KU would go down.

Rather egregiously.

Tribesman 02-19-2006 02:34 PM

Is it still on? Which network is carrying this?

DJay23 02-19-2006 02:37 PM

This game is big. If Texas were to win this game and then their only loss being us the rest of the way, and we win all of ours, we'd be tied. We would have to share the Big XII title, even though we beat them. The reason is that we only played once. Same thing happened last year where OU beat us but we ended up tied. We shared the title and OU was the #1 seed in the tournament.

If Texas loses today and next Saturday and then we all win the rest of our games, we win the title outright.

leviw 02-19-2006 02:38 PM

74-54 OSU, 1:59 left

on ABC

PastorMikH 02-19-2006 02:38 PM

Best I've seen OSU play all season.

banyon 02-19-2006 02:38 PM

I think the "If" part is over. Just a matter of time now.

Why is it that whenever Texas loses, they lose by 20?

PastorMikH 02-19-2006 02:40 PM

OK, someone explain to me why the OSU guy just had 5 seconds called on him while he was dribbling? I thought the 5 seconds only was counted after the ball was picked up?

Tribesman 02-19-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by leviw
74-54 OSU, 1:59 left

on ABC

Thanks!

Skip Towne 02-19-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
OK, someone explain to me why the OSU guy just had 5 seconds called on him while he was dribbling? I thought the 5 seconds only was counted after the ball was picked up?

Good question.

Skip Towne 02-19-2006 02:43 PM

JamesOn Curry is on fire.

Bearcat 02-19-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
UT 45
OSU 62

4:34 left in the game. Funny how a lot of folks were saying that KU should've beaten OSU by a lot more and that we played down to our competition. Wonder if they'll be saying the same thing about the #6 team in the counrty. :rolleyes:


OSU has lost 7 of their last 8, so I think I can say that about the #6 team in the country. Texas has been rolling since the Duke/Tennessee games, so this is a pretty classic "at least we're getting it out of our systems" game.

banyon 02-19-2006 02:44 PM

Ewwww Teee F'ed this one up.

Rick Barnes is not a good game coach. He gets his W's on recruiting.

Bearcat 02-19-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
OK, someone explain to me why the OSU guy just had 5 seconds called on him while he was dribbling? I thought the 5 seconds only was counted after the ball was picked up?

Where was he on the court? I don't think you can just hang out if you're way beyond the 3 point line.

Skip Towne 02-19-2006 02:45 PM

Texas just got their ass beat. I don't think anybody could have beat OSU today.

DJay23 02-19-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat
Where was he on the court? I don't think you can just hang out if you're way beyond the 3 point line.

He was being guarded. Anyone who has the ball and there is a defender within like 2 or 3 feet gets the 5 second count dribbling or not, no matter where you are on the floor.

thebrad84 02-19-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Texas just got their ass beat. I don't think anybody could have beat OSU today.

Completely agree. I'm a big OSU fan (living in lawrence of course) and I have watched all of their televised games this year. This was the first game i've seen from them where they played, for the most part, like you are supposed to play basketball. Defense, rebound, and find the open man on offense. That was the best looking game i've seen from the pokes in a long time...well, since last March. OSU is going to be good next year, they just had to suffer through some big growing pains this year.

DJay23 02-19-2006 03:09 PM

IF you ever notice an official spreading his arms out during play (kind of like a sideline warning signal in football) he's saying, "The defender is too far off for a 5 second count to start."

Mr. Laz 02-19-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon
This game doesn't affect out RPI either way.

KU plays both teams on the road, and just one time.

not so sure about that ...


this lost hurts Texas alot more than it helps OSU



a win of OSU means nada for KU now ... a win over a top 10 ranked team counts a ton.

banyon 02-19-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
not so sure about that ...


this lost hurts Texas alot more than it helps OSU



a win of OSU means nada for KU now ... a win over a top 10 ranked team counts a ton.

The RPI formula is (1) 25% team winning percentage, (2) 50% opponents' winning percentage, and (3) 25% opponents' opponents' winning percentage.

Last year they added (road vs home). You get 1.4 for road victories 1 for neutral W's and 0.6 * for home.

So...We've played or will play both. They both count the same for (2) opponent's win pct. OSU's goes up and doesn't hurt us as bad, and Texas's goes down which balances that out.

They are both on the road, so no difference there.

It's a lot different than the Sagarin Ratings that factor in quality of wins. If what you mean is that it hurts us in terms of national perception or quality of wins for the tournament committee, that might be true.

RCJGKU :KU:!

Mr. Laz 02-19-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon
The RPI formula is (1) 25% team winning percentage, (2) 50% opponents' winning percentage, and (3) 25% opponents' opponents' winning percentage.

Last year they added (road vs home). You get 1.4 for road victories 1 for neutral W's and 0.6 * for home.

So...We've played or will play both. They both count the same for (2) opponent's win pct. OSU's goes up and doesn't hurt us as bad, and Texas's goes down which balances that out.

They are both on the road, so no difference there.

It's a lot different than the Sagarin Ratings that factor in quality of wins. If what you mean is that it hurts us in terms of national perception or quality of wins for the tournament committee, that might be true.

RCJGKU :KU:!

but doesn't the team rankings effect their overall RPI


they always talk about quality wins in the RPI system

winning a game against a top 10 team is a bonus


:shrug: not really sure how it all works though

banyon 02-19-2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
but doesn't the team rankings effect their overall RPI


they always talk about quality wins in the RPI system

winning a game against a top 10 team is a bonus


:shrug: not really sure how it all works though

They make it more confusing than it should be. :p

Basically the RPI is totally separate from your quality wins. Sometimes people use the RPI to gauge whether or not a team is a quality opponent, or a win is a quality win.

Both quality wins and RPI are separate, but important criteria that the selection committee uses.

I think if TX hadn't lost, then a KU victory would've looked better to the tournament committee as we'd have been only one of 3 teams to beat them. So i think your intuitions are right. But just technically speaking (since I'm a stat nerd on Chiefsplanet and all) the game could not have had any effect on our RPI even if a meteor had hit the gym and the game was cancelled.

PastorMikH 02-20-2006 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
OK, someone explain to me why the OSU guy just had 5 seconds called on him while he was dribbling? I thought the 5 seconds only was counted after the ball was picked up?


Had this explained to me tonight. The guy can stand alone for the remainder of the shot clock if he is uncovered. The moment he becomes guarded, he has 5 seconds to pass, shoot, or make a concious move in the direction of the basket. If he does not, it doesn't matter if he dribbles the entire time or not, it is a 5 second violation.

DJay23 02-20-2006 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorMikH
Had this explained to me tonight. The guy can stand alone for the remainder of the shot clock if he is uncovered. The moment he becomes guarded, he has 5 seconds to pass, shoot, or make a concious move in the direction of the basket. If he does not, it doesn't matter if he dribbles the entire time or not, it is a 5 second violation.

That's what I said.

Skip Towne 02-20-2006 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23
That's what I said.

Yes, but you didn't say "duh" enough. The pastor is part Okie and part MUron. You have to speak his language.


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