Archive of photos from Civil Rights Era found
 

...and published for the first time in the Birmingham News.

Amazing photos...worth a look.

HERE...



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"August 1963: An anti-Semitic demonstrator marches on 22nd St. in Birmingham."


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"April 19, 1956: During sentencing for the 1956 beating of entertainer Nat “King” Cole at Municipal Auditorium, Jesse Mabry, E.L. Vinson, Mike Fox and Orliss Clevenger cover their faces inside a Birmingham courtroom."

Racism is such closed minded ignorance. To think that someone is less of a person because of the color of their skin, instead of the content of their character is absurd.

Hell, I even have a couple Raider and Mizzou fan friends... and if anyone should be segregated, it should be them. Back of the bus, bitches.

hey, the photos were discovered by an MU grad student:

"The section is the result of research by Alexander Cohn, a 30-year-old former photo intern at The News. In November 2004, Cohn went through an equipment closet at the newspaper in search of a lens and saw a cardboard box full of negatives marked, "Keep. Do Not Sell."

Cohn, who grew up in Mountain Brook and is a master's candidate at the University of Missouri, researched the images and discovered that many had never been published.

The Confederate Flag just brings up such negative emotion... that flag needs to go away.

What about the American flag.. It means the same thing, quit attributing the flag to racists, it is not... Just because some reeruns fly it for that does not mean it is a negative item.. Learn the real history of the flag..

You can't just disassociate the new meaning of a symbol because it's original meaning was something else.

That's like saying the swastika shouldn't be associated with nazis because it's original meaning was a symbol of the sun.

Too many people look at that flag an associate it with racism now. The meaning has shifted. It's not something that will be undone.

When you look at how far the American people have come, as a whole, in less than a century.

Wow.

The swastika has typically meant Nazis in our culture imediately after Nazis came along. There are only very rare incidences of swastikas in our culture before we encountered them. That flag however, has nothing to do with racism. It is the battle flag of the Confederacy and was used (as well as others) by Southern soldiers conducting warfare against what they viewed as a repressive government. If anything, it represents the native American belief that rebellion for a good cause is legitimate. I know that people who are ignorant of its origins do not like it because it represents something completely different to them as it has been used by hateful bigots for 150 years or so. That's not a good enough reason to destroy a symbol or decree it obscene. Destroy the racist terrorists in our country and decree them obscene instead.

By the way, it pisses me off to no end that this little terrorist cocksucking ****bag is toting that flag around. Makes my blood start to boil just looking at it.

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I live in Richmond, VA and it's part of our history...it doesn't need to go anywhere. If anything it stands as a testiment to our abilty to change who we are and what we do. It shows that we can disagee...spill our own blood and be made whole again.

Yo, represent East Siyyyyyde! I was born in Newport News and lived in that area for ten years of my life. At one point I lived halfway between Colonial Williamsburg and Bush Gardens.

Nice!!! I grew up in Virginia Beach. We are brothers then

It would seem that both symbols now have very negative connotations. Neither started out that way for sure (the swastika was around for 3000 years or so before it got its bad name), but both were adopted by terrible people. That's the way it goes.

BTW,
These pictures are incredibly powerful. I'd recommend looking at all the sets.

I will. I didn't notice the link until you mentioned it, thanks.

Heh, sweet. Do you still hear,"Norfolk, Suffolk and Virginia ****ing Beach." out there? That used to crack me up. I visited my family when my Grandpa passed away a few years ago. The pilot was trying to announce the nearby cities when we were close to landing and was having trouble. He stammered for a while and a big fat black lady in front of me yelled,"It's called Norfolk, honey!"

So because people are ignorant we will let it slide??? What sense does that make and why do you except it??? You ask the rest of the world what our American flag means to them and see what negative ideas you get...

That's like saying the cross shouldn't be associate with nutjobs/genocide/murders/corruption/scandel because its original meaning was peace...

You've come a long way baby..

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I understand the origin of the flag.

But that doesn't change the fact that the symbolism of that flag has shifted. Call it ignorance or whatever you want, but a symbol means what the person interpreting it thinks it means. To a lot of people in this world, that flag symbolizes a time and culture rife with racism. The meaning of a symbol is in the eye of the interpreter. In a large part of this country, that flag is interpreted as one of the banner's of a racist culture. Whatever it's initial meaning was, it means something else to a lot of people now.

Also, you can't deny the racist attitude of the large majority of people that hoisted that flag in it's infancy. If you want to excuse that attitude because they thought it was a good cause, then by the same token you can excuse the swastika because all the Germans were doing was fighting for a cause they believed in.

This isn't a deliberate use of Godwin's Law, itjust happens to be the most fitting analogy.

It's what it has evolved to.

Partially because the only people who fly that flag ARE racist white trash folk.

It's unfathomable to me how people could -- and still do -- hate other people and deny them basic human rights and dignity for no rational reason whatsoever.

We've come a long way, but we still have a long way to go.

Not all, but "most" probably isn't a huge stretch.

it has everything to do w/ economics.



everything else said about why one race hates the other, is just smoke and mirrors.

Thats the advantage of States being able to chose a lot of what they do. If your state doesn't want to fly that flag, they don't have to, if their state sees it with a different meaning, then they can do what they want. Plus you have the freedom to not support that State by not buying products from there, and you are not forced to live there.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not neccessarily agreeing with the statement that "that flag needs to go away".

I just don't agree when someone says that flag isn't a symbol of racism, simply because it's roots were something esle (even though those roots were also largely racist). A symbol's meaning can shift, and whatever the original meaning of that flag was, it is widely regarded as a symbol of racsim, or at the very least a harkening for a time when racism was rampant.

Personally, I think it's a more a symbol of white trash than anything else. However noble southerners want to pretend it is, it's the flag of an army that lost, and is now the standard for trailer parks and Lynrd Skynrd.

coming from a yank i dont see how you can have any perseption of what white southerners think or thought about how the battleflag makes them feel.

I don't care what white southerners thought or think about the flag. It's of no consequence to the point I'm making.

The difference?

I remember a poll some time ago that reported that something like 70% of southern blacks did not find the rebel flag to be offensive at all.

and that would be that all southerners who are proud of the heritage and may fly a battleflag are white trash?
kinda like saying all northerners who cant pull there pants up and have a dorag are gonna steal my stereo?


so wtf is the point youre making jsp?

If you had bothered to read the thread, you'd probably already know the point I'm trying to make. That regardless of what the confederate flag once stood for, it is now widely interpreted as a symbol of racism.

I'm sorry if my comment about the flag and white trash struck a nerve. I'm just speaking of my own opinion, that you're more likely to see that flag on a bumper in a trailer park than in a gated community.

i read the thread.
see your last statement is where i have a bone to pick. Having spent time and known many peoples from the deep south its comments like "trailerpark" that makes me wonder if you say that because its what youve been told to say or because you know from experince.

They have trailer parks in Iowa too you know.

and i see more ignorant misguided people from the north flying the battle standard for the reasons you stated than people in the south.

atleast they(southerners) could give you some kinda argument other than ' i hate ******s"

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

The confederate flag has become the standard for trash and methamphetamine all over the United States.

If southerners want to cling to it, that's their right. But at best it's representative of an era they should be ashamed of, and at worst it's a symbol of white poverty and ignorance.

Keep waiving your flag. Just don't act suprised by the picture it paints.

FTR its not my flag.
and the point is that it is mostly a perception that the flag is racist and only racist from the northern perspective.

And my point is that when it comes to symbolism (such as a flag) perception is every bit as important as intent, and often more.

That flag represents an era of the south that was deeply soaked in racism. As such, many people will always associate the flag with the ideals of that era.