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Mr. Laz 02-27-2006 06:21 PM

what is tony worth?
 
IF the chiefs were to trade Tony g for some reason ... what is his worth in draft picks.

DaKCMan AP 02-27-2006 06:27 PM

a 2nd, a 4th or 5th, and a whole lot of pie

Mr. Laz 02-27-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP
a 2nd, a 4th or 5th, and a whole lot of pie

so that's about a low 1st rounder then?

Hootie 02-27-2006 06:30 PM

a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Taco John 02-27-2006 06:33 PM

How many years are on his contract, and at what base rate?

I would guess somewhere between a second and third round pick, depending on the circumstances. I think Tony would be hard to trade. The Chiefs would need to get a second round pick for the guy, and the bidding team would only want to part with a third for a Tight End, knowing that they can get a pretty good tight end in the second or third round of the draft.

Taco John 02-27-2006 06:37 PM

I wonder if Atlanta would be willing to part with a second to pair Tony up with Michael Vick? That would be the type of situation where I could see the Chiefs getting a second rounder for Tony.

Reaper16 02-27-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John
I wonder if Atlanta would be willing to part with a second to pair Tony up with Michael Vick? That would be the type of situation where I could see the Chiefs getting a second rounder for Tony.

I know I don;t expect much in the way of football from a Donks fan, but why do they go out and get TG when they have Alge Crumpler?

jspchief 02-27-2006 06:50 PM

3rd rounder at best. Gonzo is too expensive for anyone to be that interested.

Not many teams think a TE is worth 5+ million per year.

Rain Man 02-27-2006 07:36 PM

He's worth more to us than another team would trade for him.

Bwana 02-27-2006 07:43 PM

3rd

chop 02-27-2006 07:45 PM

Where's the T.O. option?

Trade Tony for T.O. and a draft pick. Do you think the eagles would bite?

wolfpack0735 02-27-2006 07:54 PM

at the combin there was a TE that ran a 4.39 40. he looked like a tackle. huge arms and thighs. he`ll go high.

chefsos 02-27-2006 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man
He's worth more to us than another team would trade for him.

Exactly what I think, too. I'd put Priest and T-Rich in that category as well, and probably a few other guys who don't come directly to mind.

...I most likely could have just said "Yep" here instead.

Logical 02-27-2006 08:13 PM

Under ideal circumstances a 2nd. Very similar to the Patrick Surtain situation. Only a limited number of productive years left (likely 3), Pro Bowl players (though Tony has more, CB is a more strategic position on most teams).

Iowanian 02-27-2006 08:22 PM

3rd.

He's a great TE....but he's a TE.

chiefs4me 02-27-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
IF the chiefs were to trade Tony g for some reason ... what is his worth in draft picks.








He's not going anywhere........:harumph: so invalid question..:D

Hammock Parties 02-27-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John
I wonder if Atlanta would be willing to part with a second to pair Tony up with Michael Vick? That would be the type of situation where I could see the Chiefs getting a second rounder for Tony.

That's dumb. Why would they trade for Gonzalez when they have Crumpler?

Mr. Laz 02-27-2006 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man
He's worth more to us than another team would trade for him.

isn't that pretty much the usual for us

Dunit35 02-27-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfpack0735
at the combin there was a TE that ran a 4.39 40. he looked like a tackle. huge arms and thighs. he`ll go high.

That was Vernon Davis. Amazing speed. I wouldn't mind seeing him here.

Mr. Laz 02-27-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunit35
That was Vernon Davis. Amazing speed. I wouldn't mind seeing him here.

would you trade tony g for a draft pick to use on Vernon davis?

jspchief 02-27-2006 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
would you trade tony g for a draft pick to use on Vernon davis?

I would consider replacing Gonzo with Davis. Gonzo may be on the downside of his career, while Davis looks very interesting. It would certainly be cheaper.

Eleazar 02-27-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by goxlibutscrale
That's dumb. Why would they trade for Gonzalez when they have Crumpler?

Vick can only complete passes to tight ends, why not bring in another?

DaKCMan AP 02-27-2006 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
so that's about a low 1st rounder then?

don't underestimate the value of pie.

Halfcan 02-27-2006 10:00 PM

Considering TG spent the first half of the year blocking-I think he put up descent numbers. Anything less than a high 2nd and a 4th thrown in, would be a wasted gamble.

HemiEd 02-27-2006 10:03 PM

More than a first, he knows this offense. Somewhere I heard our time is limited with this group.

007 02-27-2006 11:16 PM

sure lets get a 4th for him.

CoMoChief 02-28-2006 12:41 AM

Trade him to NYJ for their first round pick, then we select Mario Williams, and then Rodrique Wright in the 2nd round. Then maybe we'd have some money for FA. I'd be happy with that. It wont happen though.

Then the next season's draft we just focus on the OL and our secondary, because thats where we are old at. Draft a CB or OT depending on if Roaf plays another year, or if theres a CB that we can not pass up on.

Inspector 02-28-2006 07:57 AM

Probably a 3rd rounder.

With his reputation I'd like to think we'd get more, but everyone knows he's been around for awhile and even though he has gas left in the tank, he's probably still seen as an aging vet on the downhill side of his carrer.

I would also insist on the pie to go along with that pick. Maybe key lime.

greg63 02-28-2006 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man
He's worth more to us than another team would trade for him.

Agreed!

Did someone say pie?

vailpass 02-28-2006 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan
Considering TG spent the first half of the year blocking-I think he put up descent numbers. Anything less than a high 2nd and a 4th thrown in, would be a wasted gamble.

:homer:

Cormac 02-28-2006 09:32 AM

Mmmmm, kee-eeey liii-iime :drool:

ct 02-28-2006 10:19 AM

I said a 3rd. He is still highly productive, but he'll be asking for a contract value inflated vs. the long term return on investment.

ct 02-28-2006 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude
Trade him to NYJ for their first round pick, then we select Mario Williams, and then Rodrique Wright in the 2nd round. Then maybe we'd have some money for FA. I'd be happy with that. It wont happen though.

...

:bong:


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