delete.
 

Looks like Jack Harry confirmed that it was a joke.

Moderrators can delete this thread.

At least he'll be off those ESPN broadcasts, he was BORING. But, maybe that's what we need, someone who's boring and knows baseball.

YEEE HAAWWW Carl is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Oh. Never mind.

Nice Hire...he knows his stuff.

He was on with Petro last week....very intelligent guy.

Total control, until Dan throws a hissy about not being able to play god with his team.


I keed!



I know nothing of Steve Phillips. Hopefully the guy knows his stuff, and straighten this thing out.

Last job with Mets.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0612/1566963.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Phillips

Didn't Mets fans dislike the guy...?

Don't Mets fans dislike everyone not named Pedro?

Is this for real? I can't find anything yet.

GM of the Mets from 1997-2003. Presided over their NLCS and World Series appearances.

Interesting also is that Bobby Valentine was his guy through Phillips' tenure... he's currently managing in Japan. A possibility if he decides Bell isn't his man.

His worst finish in a full season was 86 losses.

That's who JoPo wanted to begin with.

Hrmmm...

2 wild card berths in 1999 and 2000, though...


1997-2004: Piazza , Bobby V, and the Subway Series

While the 1990s started horribly for the Mets, things started looking up in 1997. While they missed the playoffs by only four games, they improved by 17 games over 1996. Their switch hitting catcher, Todd Hundley, who had broken several records the year before, was having another great season. However, he went down late in 1997 with a devastating elbow injury and needed Tommy John surgery. For a time, it looked like the Los Angeles Dodgers were going to be shopping their superstar catcher, Mike Piazza, in a trade rather than pay the exorbitant salary that 1997's MVP runner-up was going to demand at the end of the 1998 season. In a puzzling move, on May 14, 1998, the Dodgers sent Piazza to the Florida Marlins who were purging themselves of every high salary they could to alleviate their claimed financial problems. The Marlins' move made more sense when, just a week later, they re-traded Piazza to the Mets for Preston Wilson and two prospects. The Dodgers had no free agency problem, the Marlins had young players with small salaries and the Mets had their new lineup-anchoring catcher.

After the 1998 trade, the Mets played well but missed the 1998 postseason by only one game. With only 5 games left in that 1998 season, the Mets could not win a single game against both the Montreal Expos at home and the Atlanta Braves on the road, the Mets could have forced a 3-way wild card tie by winning their last game. Although it seemed like a terrible ending to a good season, Met fans felt confident that the team was moving in the right direction. After signing Mike Piazza to a seven-year contract, the Mets acquired Armando Benítez from the Baltimore Orioles, and signed Robin Ventura, Rickey Henderson, Bobby Bonilla and Roger Cedeño to fill out the needs for the start of the 1999 season. John Olerud anchored the heart of the Mets' order.

1999 started well for the Mets but Bobby Bonilla turned out not to be the player the Mets had hoped he would be and the Mets played well to begin the season. When June came around, the Mets started to fall. On June 6, after losing two games to the New York Yankees, the Mets started taking action by firing their coaching staff except for their manager, Bobby Valentine. On that day, the Mets, in front of a national audience on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, beat New York Yankees 7-2 and they never looked back. Both Mike Piazza and Robin Ventura started to have MVP type seasons and Benny Agbayani began to have an important role on the team. Also this was the breakout year for Mets second baseman Edgardo Alfonzo, as he had 100 rbi's, and Roger Cedeño, who broke the single season steals record for the Mets. At the very end of the season, the Mets had to play a one game playoff against the Cincinnati Reds to see which team would advance to the playoffs. In that game, Met ace Al Leiter pitched the best game of his Met career as he led the team to a 5-0 victory to advance to the playoffs. In those playoffs, they defeated the Arizona Diamondbacks to advance to their first NLCS since 1988, only to lose to the Atlanta Braves in six exciting games which included the famous "grand slam single" by Robin Ventura to win game 5 for the Mets.

In the offseason after the 1999 NLCS defeat, the Mets traded Roger Cedeño and Octavio Dotel to the Houston Astros for Derek Bell and Mike Hampton. Also Todd Zeile was signed to play first base. The Mets were heading to the 2000 season as a powerhouse in the National League.

2000 began well for the Mets as Derek Bell became the best hitter on the team for the first month. The Mets enjoyed good play the whole year. The highlight of the season came on June 30 when the Mets beat their rivals the Atlanta Braves in a memorable game. With the Mets losing 8-1 to begin the bottom of the 8th, the Mets rallied back to tie the game when Mike Piazza hit a three run home run to put the Mets up 11-8 to give them the lead and eventually the win. The home run was a line drive shot to left field and to this day is replayed in almost every Mike Piazza highlight reel. The Mets easily made the playoffs winning the National League wild card. In the playoffs, the Mets beat the San Francisco Giants and the St. Louis Cardinals to win their fourth ever N.L. Championship. Mike Hampton won the NLCS MVP for his great pitching performances during the series as the Mets headed to the 2000 World Series to face their cross town rivals, the New York Yankees. Unfortunally for the Mets, they were defeated in the much-hyped "Subway Series". Even though they lost 4 games to 1, they scored only three fewer runs than the Yankees. This was the first all-New York World Series since 1956, when the Yankees defeated the Brooklyn Dodgers.

In the seasons following the 2000 World Series, the Mets struggled mightily as the result of several poor player acquisitions, including Mo Vaughn, Roberto Alomar, Roger Cedeño (again) and Jeromy Burnitz. These acquisitions were made by then General Manager Steve Phillips, who was fired during the 2003 season. Phillips was credited with building the 2000 World Series team, but also blamed for the demise of the Mets' farm system and the poor play of the acquired players. The Mets record in 2003 (66-95) was among the worst in baseball, and Piazza had missed two-thirds of the season with a torn groin muscle. His steady decline around that time mirrored the Mets' fortunes for the first half of the decade.

810 was the source tonight.

Espn broke it during their game tonight.

While the Mets did have success during his tenure, it's important to note that they had some of the highest payroll in the bigs during that time.

If Glass gives him the reins and the checkbook too, hey, sounds great to me.

some one confirm this please.

810 has got Neckcar talk on right now.

Haven't seen anything on TV or on the web yet.

Nothing beats the left hand turn circuit. Yee-haw.

Where is Bad Guy when you need him.....

That would be a surprising move in a way... considering he was a big market guy. He's gonna have to take a way different approach in KC. Not that he can't but I have no idea how he'll approach things.

I'd be surprised if he took the gig frankly.

Goodbye Baird!!!!!!!

I agree. If it is contingent on total control, then you'd have to think he would ask for a less meager budget too.

Stoopid 810 and their Nascar talk! :cuss:

I haven't seen anything anywhere.

He sounds like the guy who isn't afraid to clean house. Couple that with the less-than-glowing review he gave to the Royals farm system on Soren Petro's show last week, and this has the chance to get REAL interesting.

Do you remember what his complaints about the farm system were?

is this for real?

This would be a great move as I have been begging for Baird to get fired for the last 2 years.

I haven't seen this confirmed yet though.

Whatever. At least it's not Kruk

In short, he doesn't think we have the talent in the major league roster or in the minors for a successful rebuilding. Now, I chalked some of this up to what has to be almost complete unfamiliarity with our farm system. He said Gordona and Butler, yeah, but he didn't mention even guys like Burgos and I don't recall him mentioning Huber (who he drafted, iirc).

http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/se...vbar&rT=sports

I don't have ESPN insider, but here is some of his work.

ESPN is switching to the Giants' game anytime Bonds bats... puke.

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Corrected.

ESPN just did one of their 30 minute updates and said nothing.

I smell bullshit.

This is going to sound stupid but why doesn't one of you call Espn up and ask them if it's true.

Their webpages don't say anthing. maybe to respect him in some way.

It's hogwash

you started the ****ing thread...

Did you actually hear this yourself?

I just heard carl ravich say something on the sox highlights regarding harold saying steve was right or something about some of the sox players then ravich goes "if he was right he'd still be a GM" LOL hmmm makes ya wonder if it's bs

ESPN just did the Royals highlights and said nothing about GM's.

It's BS.

I'm relieved.

mets fans used to hate this guy...GREAT.

At least it's not John Clayton back peddling about Ty Law ...............

like I said, Ty Law should be the next royals' gm.

Geez,

Let's see what he can do with 2 arms tied behind his back against the teams that can afford to buy the best talent. With any luck he will have us playing .370 baseball within 5-10 years.

He also said that the Royals whacked over half their scouts as the came out of the Mr. K's trust.

But the farm system isn't as big a deal as spending cash wisely. Yea, lock up the guys you produce, then buy value.

The guy was smart as hell. I enjoyed that interview.

BTW, speaking about TY Law, Blow Bag Rhonda Moss is blabb'n about TY coming to KC. Says he is very signable and that Ty has told TG that he wants to be in KC.......

Just some dope on another BB site...... I wouldn't put any trust into it, OK.

Mets drafted some real studs under Phillips - Reyes and Wright.

which BB site?

If anyone still cares, Jack Harry said NBC41 contacted ESPN personally... and ESPN said there was no truth to the rumor. So he will probably be hired tommorrow. LOL

Well, the A's are used to fleecing Royals' GMs, and now Billy Beane's favorite GM (to fleece) will control the Royals. Steve Phillips is the anti-Moneyball GM.

The only silver lining is that if Dan Glass no longer has any control, maybe the GM after Phillips might have a chance.

Phillips is a joke.

This is stupid. Do you realize that Baird has to be fired before another GM can be hired????

A lot of people are speculating that the reason the "changes" are taking so long is that Glass wants to have a smooth transition and have the next GM ready when he fires Baird.

That might be my favorite part of the book, where he talks to other GM's. I'd recommend reading the book just for that alone, it's entertaining how he interacts with other GM's and his own baseball people. Beane is such a used car salesman. I can't believe other GM's deal with him. "Hey buddy! I got this guy I'll trade you! Yeah! He's f'ing great! And see! All I want in return is this one guy... yeah, him, he's just a fatass 3rd baseman! Nobody YOU really want! But I'll take him on, no big deal!" ROFL

Yeah, that's fine. You still can't "announce" a new GM before firing the old one.

Well, it's also possible Baird could be "re-assigned".

Although personally, for the man's own sake, I'd rather just see him take some time off. He's spent darn near half his life working his rear end off for this organization. His wife is probably the most patient human being on earth.

I think many would be okay with that; his service and loyalty are laudable, but he's clearly in over his head....and it's been pretty clear for awhile now.

Yep, two of the best young players in the game.

I personally don't think he's in over his head as much as people would like to believe. He's probably too loyal. Not that he's a great GM, he's not perfect, but I think we could do a LOT worse. We could probably do better too. And even if he gets fired tomorrow there will still be a lot of the pieces that could develop into a good team. It's still too early to tell. That'll be his legacy to me, whether Gordon/Butler/Huber/Greinke/Bautista/Burgos/etc/etc/etc all succeed or fail.

I agree the farm system can tell the tale of a good GM; but his FA blunders, and refusal to put pressure on the Glass family.....are indicative of a lack of cajones....IMHO.

Some guy on ChiefsCoalition .....


Like I said, Rhonda Moss ? :rolleyes:

I'll wait and see...... I have done been nailed by the 4321 Clayton freight train that said Ty should be in KC last week.

As for my stance on Ty for those of you who want to know, same as before, Only if he can perform at that age and a car friendly deal. But Ty wants $$$ in the bank.... lots of it.