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Saulbadguy 08-08-2006 12:32 PM

Service engine soon?
 
Alright..here is my situation. Last week my starter died, and I had it replaced.

Shortly afterwards, the "Service engine soon" light came on. I took it back to the shop, they hooked their computer up, and it gave an "EGR Malfunction" code. The mechanic checked a few wires and crap - and said everything was OK (at no charge). He cleared the code, but soon afterwards, the light came on again.

Any ideas? It's annoying, but my car does not seem to be running differently..

Gonzo 08-08-2006 12:33 PM

What kind of car?

HemiEd 08-08-2006 12:33 PM

The most common cause for this that I have seen is a loose gas cap.

Saulbadguy 08-08-2006 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
The most common cause for this that I have seen is a loose gas cap.

That was the first thing I checked.

Saulbadguy 08-08-2006 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo8888
What kind of car?

1999 Nissan Sentra SE.

Halfcan 08-08-2006 12:34 PM

Buy a new one from Carmax.

Hydrae 08-08-2006 12:35 PM

So are we going to start a new subforum for auto repair advice? :p

ChiefaRoo 08-08-2006 12:36 PM

Have Huggy fix it. I mean you seem to think he can fix any old piece of crap.

burt 08-08-2006 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
The most common cause for this that I have seen is a loose gas cap.

I think you know everything.

HemiEd 08-08-2006 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
That was the first thing I checked.

It sounds like the mechanic did not do a good check on it then. The Codes should tell you. I would suspect on Oxygen sensor, it is the next most common from my experience. Is it running "rich?" Has your gas milage dropped off?

Saulbadguy 08-08-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo
Have Huggy fix it. I mean you seem to think he can fix any old piece of crap.

I probably shouldn't have bought it from Rusty Eck. It's good for picking up 15 year old chicks at the mall, though.

Gonzo 08-08-2006 12:39 PM

A code for this is quite common. Probably just a coinsidense that it happened while in the shop. One of three things can cause it. Your Purge Cannister is back drafting into the engine causing high levels of carbon to build up in the intake which in turn will cause a faulty code to set with the EGR valve. The second is it's just a bad EGR that activated after the car was not run for a while. And the third possibility is faulty wiring going to the sensor or a bad sensor.

Your fuel door being open would likely cause a code to set with the oxygen sensor...not the EGR.

HemiEd 08-08-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mercer
I think you know everything.

ROFL Nah, just had a lot of problems with cars over the years.

Saulbadguy 08-08-2006 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo8888
A code for this is quite common. Probably just a coinsidense that it happened while in the shop. One of three things can cause it. Your Purge Cannister is back drafting into the engine causing high levels of carbon to build up in the intake which in turn will cause a faulty code to set with the EGR valve. The second is it's just a bad EGR that activated after the car was not run for a while. And the third possibility is faulty wiring going to the sensor or a bad sensor.

Your fuel door being open would likely cause a code to set with the oxygen sensor...not the EGR.

1) What the hell is an EGR Valve?
2) How much am I looking at to fix this?

Gonzo 08-08-2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
1) What the hell is an EGR Valve?
2) How much am I looking at to fix this?

The exhuast gas recirculation (EGR) system is an important part of the emissions controls in the nissan engine. This also has a large effect on the NOx emissions (my car recently failed emissions due to almost twice the limit of NOx ppm but passed the other parts). You can replace the part, but it's about $100 from the dealer and I've heard people having good results just cleaning it out so I figured I'd try that first. I was able to pass emissions easily after doing this cleaning; it made a huge difference my NOx levels.

If you put your fingers on the underside of the EGR valve beneath the disc part, you should be able to push up on the valve and feel it move. With the car running, you should feel the valve move up when you rev the engine. You can also pull off the upper vacuum line going into the EGR valve and you can feel the vacuum on it when you rev the engine if everything is working properly

Brock 08-08-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
1) What the hell is an EGR Valve?
2) How much am I looking at to fix this?

1. It sends lubrication to the muffler bearings.

2. Exquisitely expensive.

good luck.

Lzen 08-08-2006 01:17 PM

[rexjake] That's what you get for buying Jap. You should've bought a GM. [/rexjake]

StcChief 08-08-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
[rexjake] That's what you get for buying Jap. You should've bought a GM. [/rexjake]

ROFL

You it would have been in the shop 2-3 year, with deductables, new tranny, CVs etc.

EGR - will effect mileage. They should be able to give you an estimate.
or go outside Dealer. to Good Jap repair guy.

Bugeater 08-08-2006 02:17 PM

Here's the way to fix it:

1. Buy a roll of electrical tape.

2. Put a piece of it over the light.

Bob Dole 08-08-2006 02:39 PM

Are your windows tinted?

Mr. Flopnuts 08-08-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd
The most common cause for this that I have seen is a loose gas cap.


I can testify to this one. It's happened to me.

HemiEd 08-08-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts
I can testify to this one. It's happened to me.

Me too, a couple times recently on my 300M.
When the Durango failed the Emissions test, the Check Engine Light was on. I replaced both O2 sensors for much less than a shop would have charged me for one of them.

StcChief 08-08-2006 03:16 PM

Gas Cap not tight screws up the computer for setting mixture. False positive Check engine.
Happened before... A few start/stops It goes out.

O2 sensors were replaced on 01 Nissan Pathfinder
Under extended warrantee.
The Code for it was spot on.

DeepSouth 08-08-2006 03:49 PM

My second oldest has a Honda Civic. A similar light came on. She called the dealer and they told her it's programmed to come on after several thousand miles so you'll take it back to the dealer to get it serviced. They told her how to reset it. I think she had to turn the key on without starting it, and then push the tripometer reset button.

I know it sounds like BS but it's the truth. And, it did make the light go off.

beavis 08-08-2006 03:54 PM

Check the lighter fluid in your headlights.

HemiEd 08-08-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth
My second oldest has a Honda Civic. A similar light came on. She called the dealer and they told her it's programmed to come on after several thousand miles so you'll take it back to the dealer to get it serviced. They told her how to reset it. I think she had to turn the key on without starting it, and then push the tripometer reset button.

I know it sounds like BS but it's the truth. And, it did make the light go off.

I forgot that they do that on Rice burners since they never break down and do not see any work in the shop. Those mechanics gotta eat too.

Moooo 08-08-2006 04:13 PM

My friend has a Civic that the check engine light comes on for an O2 sensor. He changed it and it still comes on.

He says to me the other day it only does it when the tank is only half full or less...

This whole "sensor due to gas cap" makes me wonder...

Moooo

Calcountry 08-08-2006 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Alright..here is my situation. Last week my starter died, and I had it replaced.

Shortly afterwards, the "Service engine soon" light came on. I took it back to the shop, they hooked their computer up, and it gave an "EGR Malfunction" code. The mechanic checked a few wires and crap - and said everything was OK (at no charge). He cleared the code, but soon afterwards, the light came on again.

Any ideas? It's annoying, but my car does not seem to be running differently..

Put a piece of duct tape over that annoying SES light.

Calcountry 08-08-2006 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
1) What the hell is an EGR Valve?
2) How much am I looking at to fix this?

I am curious Saul, what Make and model car was it?

Calcountry 08-08-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
1999 Nissan Sentra SE.

Never mind.


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