ESPN has already forgotten about Lamar
 

Just finished watching their year in review.

They did a piece on remembering all the people who passed this year.. Puckett, Heyworth, Tiger Wood's dad. BUT NO LAMAR!

WTF?!?!?! Tiger Wood's dad deserves a mention but Lamar doesnt?!?!?

ESPN can lick my sack. I'll leave it unwashed for the next few weeks jus for when they lick it.

BASTAGES!

This does not surprise me in the least.

That show is a rerun from the beginning of Last Week, he hadn't died yet when they made it.

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Well ****... they still could have edited him in. Thats what they have interns for dammit!

Yeah, my first thought was that it was recorded before he passed.

Yeah, I mean I dont know how often they air reruns of the show, but if its a lot then they should put him in there.

ESPN can still lick pr_capone's sack for the many, many other retarted (sic) things they do.

whoa how did buckinkaeding get all that rep???

He's been kissing ass bigtime among the N00b (sp?) population and calling out other dolt fans and making a big deal out of it, Mr. Oh Snap. He does not, however, deserve any rep whatsoever because he called Gillian a hermaphrodite which is, of course, the lowest form of blasphemy.

FAX

Who was that guy who owned the Giants? When he passed on, it was covered by the media like the death of Princess Di.

Lamar is not getting the national attention he deserves.

FAX

Wellington Mara.

That's him. Thanks, Mr. htismaqe. He seemed like a nice guy and all, but his accomplishments paled in comparison to Lamar's.

It's as if Mr. mac58 is heading up the programming division at ESPN.

FAX

HAHAHA Thats outright BLASHEMY!!!
I have so little rep compared to his and ive been on this board alot longer. I guess that means im the one with the life. I cant even remember who gave it to me. chiefer?.. thechiefs? something like that. It was one person alone who revitalized my rep. LOL Somthing like that. Ppl here thought I was a troll. So they kept giveing me bad rep. Those bastards!

You know, I never thought about it until now, but I wonder if there's still so die-hard NFL blue bloods that resent what Lamar did?

Check your rep now.

Possibly, I hadn't considered that either, Mr. htismaqe. But it is possible.

I've always subscribed to the theory that the small- to mid-market teams don't get attention because the audience size doesn't warrant it. But, in Lamar's case, one would think that that excuse wouldn't apply.

I can understand why the media would ignore the Chiefs, but I don't understand why they would choose to ignore Lamar's passing to this extent. In that sense, it does raise questions.

FAX

I don't watch espn anymore exept to wack off watching linda cone

He was from the NFL.

Yeah, I brought that up.

lol thank you all for showin some love to a fellow chiefs fan!

I believe that many people said they were going to murder the next person to say that name.

:eek:

I'm sorry FAX but this is way, way off base. Wellington Mara made the NFL what it is today by instituting the practice that sets it apart from all other pro sports: revenue sharing. Read his bio, I think once you see the facts you will agree Mr. Mara was a Giant in his field. This in no way detracts from Lamar Hunt's legacy.

Giants owner Wellington Mara dies at age 89
By Dave Goldberg, AP Football Writer
NEW YORK — Every NFL fan owes a huge debt to Wellington Mara, who died Tuesday at 89. So does every owner, executive and player. Mara, who joined the New York Giants as a ballboy the day his father purchased the team 80 years ago and became co-owner as a teenager, was the face of the franchise for more than a half century.

But he also was the patriarch of the NFL, a man who was willing for more than 40 years to split the millions in television revenues he could have made in the nation's largest market with the Green Bays and Pittsburghs of the league.
It put the NFL at the top of America's sports hierarchy.

"He shaped nearly every rule and philosophy we have in our league today," said Ernie Accorsi, the Giants general manager. "Most of all, he was the moral conscience of the National Football League. He now joins the pantheon of incredible men who made this league what it has become."

Said commissioner Paul Tagliabue: "Wellington Mara represented the heart and soul of the National Football League. He was a man of deep conviction who stood as a beacon of integrity. When Well Mara stood to speak at a league meeting, the room would become silent with anticipation because all of us knew we were going to hear profound insights born of eight decades of league experience."

The last of the NFL's founding generation, Mara, elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1997, died of cancer at his home in Rye, the team said.

One of Mara's greatest contributions came in the early 1960s when he and brother Jack agreed to share television revenue on a league wide basis soon after Pete Rozelle became commissioner. That deal allowed the NFL to thrive and remains in place today.

"Wellington Mara was a true pioneer who understood what it took to make the National Football League great," said Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association. "History will show that his vision, integrity and willingness to share with small market clubs paved the way for economic success."

In 1989, Mara and group of older owners wanted Rozelle's successor to be Jim Finks, then the New Orleans general manager, rather than Tagliabue, then a league lawyer. Mara thought the league should be run by a football man.

But Mara and several other "old-guard" owners finally agreed to break a stalemate of four months by throwing their votes to Tagliabue. Mara became one of the new commissioner's staunchest supporters, a man Tagliabue often leaned on for advice.

Mara became a Giants' ballboy at age 9 on Oct. 18, 1925 after his father, Timothy J. Mara, bought the team. He stayed fully involved in New York's operation for almost 80 years, except for the three years he served in the Navy during World War II. Until he became ill last spring, he attended most practices and every game.

In 1930, at 14, his father made him co-owner with older brother Jack.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ara-obit_x.htm

Big deal IMHO. Lamar shared revenue when he created the AFL, he even gave his OWN money to other teams so they wouldn't go under. Hell he even gave the Raiders one of our QB's because they didn't have one. That would never happen in this day and age.

Thanks for posting, Mr. vailpass. I appreciate the information and the knowledge gained.

FAX

You've also got to remember that Lamar and his family are quite low key and Lamar never really wanted the focus on him so I am sure a lot of this has to do with that and his family. Lamar would have wanted the focus to remain on the games. A lot of these media outlets depend on the family and the team putting out statements and and tributes and such and they pick them up. Otherwise, what more can you do other than the tributes you've already aired? The family in fact may have encouraged the outlets not to focus too much on it...

I think if you were keeping score, Lamar's accomplishments would outweigh Mara's, Mr. dirk digler. But, that level of homerism is beyond even my utterly shameless reach.

Still, the fact is they were both good men and important to the evolution of the NFL. It doesn't excuse or explain why Mara get's more attention than Lamar, though.

It's a puzzler.

FAX

I am not being a homer, it is the truth. The only reason Mara got all the hype is because he ran the New York Football Giants.

I wasn't suggesting you were a homer, Mr. dirk digler. Rather, I was stating that I am. And darn proud of it, too.

I think you're right about the New York franchise, though. As I said earlier, I can understand why the Chiefs garner little attention - we suck. But, Lamar's another story. He deserves better.

FAX

Mara instituted the policy of revenue sharing when he, as a NY owner, was in a position to benefit most from preventing it. Mara could easily have been the NFL Steinbrenner but cared more about the game.
Hunt accomplished some great things but revenue sharing was not among them.

Read Mara's bio, he became an owner when he was 14 years old and built the NFL.

I liked the AFL far better than the NFL.. Lots more scoring, two point conversion, names on the back of the jersey. The NFL wa stodgy by comparison. I was pissed to see the merger. I wanted the AFL to run them out of town.

Lamar definitely deserves better and I am homer as well but maybe not as much as you. :p

As always a Donkey fan talking out his ass.

Where do you think he got the idea, you dumb sonofabitch?


I would also like to point out that ESPN's #1 news story of the year was not the Tour de France scandal, not the Rose Bowl game, not the travails of Toothlessberger, not Tiger Woods winning two majors, not the US international teams falling flat on their face, but rather the T.O. suicide attempt. If that isn't a reason to stop watching ESPN, I don't know what is.

You might want to link your sources from now on. Like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_Mara

"During the early 1960s, Wellington and his brother Jack, the owners of the NFL's largest market, agreed to share television revenue on a league-wide basis, dividing the amounts of money available in cities like New York with smaller market teams such as the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Green Bay Packers. That concept of revenue sharing allowed the NFL to grow and is still being used today. This is certainly Mara's lasting contribution to his game."

Perhaps you need a bit of a cooling off period before you can discuss issues related to Hunt in a rational manner. It is no insult to Hunt's legacy to acknowledge the multiple accomplishments Mara achieved in his 8 decades of ownership.

Are you implying he got the idea from Hunt? Sources please. Why the name calling? You act like I tried to corner the silver market.

I am not trying to discredit Mara he was a great owner but he didn't have nearly the impact on the game as Lamar did.

It just pisses me off when we get the love fest for Mara and all day coverage from ESPN and what not but little for Lamar.

Here is some links to educate you:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...-sportstop-hed

Damn valipass I am straight up owning your ass

http://www.remembertheafl.com/LamarHunt.htm

bump for Vali

The reason Mara gets more run than Hunt is he was there first and was there longer. Mara lived in the city with his team, Hunt was a visitor on game day. Hunt made strong contributions to the entity that Mara and his peers built. Your homerism is showing through big and loud when you say things like 'Mara didn't make near the contributions Hunt did'.
This is a KC board so you certainly have the right to your narrow and homerish view but you should recognize it for what it is. The rest of the country is more balanced thus the media coverage when Mara took the dirt nap was much more extensive than when hunt cornered that Great Silver Market in the sky.

That's your second back-handed stab at Lamar.

Not very gracious, considering the man brought football to Colorado.

Please show me where I spoke incorrectly.

using a failed past business adventure right after his death is bad form.

It's just my opinion.

It isn't just a failed business venture if it results in criminal charges and the payment of a substantial fine. Out of respect for your wishes I'll drop the subject.

Huh I just gave you 3 articles pointing out that Lamar brought revenue sharing long before Mara did and the AFL had most of their league ideas implented into the new NFL. All because of one man...Lamar Hunt.

I am not dissing Mara but Lamar Hunt built the NFL into what it is today. Read Paul Tagilabues comment or Roger Goddell's or any other NFL guy and they will tell the same thing. If it wasn't for Lamar the NFL wouldn't be what it is today.

Mara/NFL didn't want a team in Denver but Lamar did. THat means no team in Denver so think about that before you spout off again.