Wesley vs Page
 

Why is greg wesley still playing?

all page does is make plays, while wesley doesn't do a damn thing except push people out of bounds.

why don't we play the young guys?

pollard has made enough plays to warrant some time too, since the season is over.

It seemed like Page and Wesley were on the field at the same time. I would like to see Pollard get some playing time as well.

i bet the coaches are just riding the season out with the current starters... page and pollard will have another minicamp and preseason to get ready. they start next year, no question.

Page has been amazing-a sack and a INT tonight. He is the new Raider killer.

in a radio interview a few weeks back, he was talkin about growing up near oakland... and he made it a definate point to mention that he never like the raiders. KILLEM PBJ

Herm said in the postgame that Page is close to starting. Translation: He will start next year.

It was really nice watching Page making plays. He is improving and looking good. Gives me hope that we, for the first time in years, have a great shot at seeing good safety play next year.

Am I the only one the thinks Page plays like a young and agressive Deron Cherry. On that INt tonight- I could have sweared I was watching Cherry back there, not falling for the fakes, baiting the QB, then making a tremendously athletic play.

We need Pollard to step up too.

Based on playing time, it looks like Herm rates our S as:

Wesley
Page
Knight
Pollard.

Now Page might actually be ahead of Welsey, but Herm doesn't want to leave Wesley out of the rotation because he is so much better than Knight (due to speed) and Pollard (due to experinece). If Pollard can pass Kinght and close the gap on Wesley, we might acutally get an improvement in safety play.

the will trade Wesley for a cadavar
with the same blood type as Bennett

We have to be protecting him. He must have just been blowing coverages in practice left and right early on. We are grooming him to combo with Page as next year's tandem. At least that is what I'm hoping.

BUT, that has to be the reason he is not seeing the field this year. He is more raw that most people thought. He was all the rave in TC for play making and hitting ability.

It was mentioned in an article a couple of weks ago that the Chiefs might be looking to convert Pollard to LB.

Yeah, I did see that and it concerns me. I hope that is not the case. We need Safety help worse. Especially in our cover two system.

I may be wrong, but I don't think this sounds like good news. Burn out at one position, hope to salvage a #2 pick at another position.

Exactly. That is what it would mean. Also, that we fell in love with a guy for his big hitting ability and "potential".

Then I look at the Chargers second round pick, and they look to have drafted a LT that could anchor that spot for the next decade. How bad do we need that. It also shows how important the draft is.

It sounds to me like one of two things.

Either they are giving up on Pollard as a safety because of his lack of cover skills, or they happy with Wesley and are giving up on Bell and hope to get Pollard and his head hunter mentality onto the field.

Either way, I think it's a mistake.

Pollard was like a 4.53 40 or something @ the combine, is that slow for his position? Page was 4.63, funny how Page was all gonna be a project, and he now probably leads the team in int's and pollard is still all rough. I hope they both play next year, and I don't care where they put pollard. If pollard puts on 20 in the weight room in the offseason, look out Jay Cutler, you are gonna go down like Thiesmann. Bonecrusher was the pick I think I was most excited about. Herm needs to get his ass on the field.

Between Page/Pollard and the Kerry Rhodes/Erik Coleman safety tandem in NY, it's pretty safe to say Herm knows what he's doing in evaluating safeties. I'm pretty sure Pollard is the only guy of that group that wasn't a 2nd day pick actually.

Okay this will be fun, I call it the mock pollard page projected 2007 chiefs starting defense. say that five times in a row fast. ythe possibilites are limitless when you consider moving law to safety.

DE Allen, Hali.
DT Reed, FA or Draft Pick.
LB Johnson, Mitchell, Bell, Pollard. (if we play the 3-4 at all Bell plays the ILB) Pollard starts year as backup to bell than takes over @ some point as olb if we don't.
Cb Surtain, Law, FA, Pick, or Sapp
S Wesley, Page.

DE Allen, Hali.
DT Reed, FA and\or Draft Pick.
LB Johnson, Mitchell, Bell, Pollard. (if we play the 3-4 at all Bell plays the ILB) Pollard starts year as backup to bell than takes over @ some point as olb if we don't.
Cb Surtain, FA, Draft Pick, Sapp
S Law, Page, Knight, Pick

One guy that I think could be a bargain and a top reserve if not a starter is Rien Long from Tennessee. He's a young guy and from what I've seen of him he can collapse the pocket consistently.

Granted he's been on IR this year because of an Achilles injury but if he can come back I'd love to have him brought in. And for those of you who miss this post, I'll be pimping him harder than Mecca pimps USC players in the coming months.

If you wanna be honest.......Page and Pollard are both SS's in a cover 2, I don't think either is fast enough for the FS spot.

Hopefully Pollard isn't a bust like most of the Chiefs 2nd rounders but talking about moving him already is a bad sign......

I am certainly open to expermenting him playing somewhere. Whether it'd be linebacker or safety? The kids got some fire, and he can lay some wood. We dont have a player like that on defense. If he can supply whats missing from our defense, I would not hesitate giving the kid an opportunity to prove himself. Not saying he has to start, but, would like to see him get involved and force some competition for jobs.
You never know what can happen from there?

*He made some plays for us this year, which is a positive.

We may have ended up using a 2nd round pick on a guy who's nothing more than a special teams player.....

We don't know that yet. Only time will tell?

Just gotta give the kid an opportunity.

Oh well I didn't like that pick.....I guess we'll see.

We will have a new safety tandom next year.

He is worth hanging on to if for nothing else cause he is our best special teams player by far. He has most stops when we're kicking and 2 blocked punts this year. With our Special teams as it is I'd keep him and try to fit him into our D but dont rush him in there.

I haven't watched Tennesee.
One guy that intrigues me though, from what I've heard about him is Justin Harrel.

Onr of the things that makes him intriging is the fact that he suffered a season ending injury that he apparently wanted to try to play through.
That shows some serious desire.

The question is, is he any good?

Page sure looks like he has the range to play FS he's been all over the field. Speaking of Pollard have you noticed who is always the first guy down on punts. Being in the right position and taking proper angles is more important for safety than world burner speed, Sammy knight is our best coverage safety and I wouldn't be surprised if hes not slower than all of our LB's.

Just because a guy is a good special teams player and is always first down the field doesn't mean he can play defense........remember Bennie Thompson?

Pollard is a special teams specimen...

I almost wonder why he didn't make the pro bowl as the 'special teamer'...

Two blocked punts, several big hits on punt returns, a forced fumble on a kickoff (maybe two...)

The dude is a playmaker.

Because he's a rookie........you have to be 100 times better than everyone else to make it as a rookie.

He may not be a good defensive player but how will we know if he doesn't get to try? His effort alone warrants an opportunity, not to mention his big play and big hit ability.

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Bennie wasn't a liability on defense. Guy was a decent nickel safety and a damn fine blitzer.

Yeah, and we may have ended up using a seventh rounder on a starting safety. So the **** what?