LSU's Russell to enter draft
 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2723407

Where does he go now ? Oakland, Detroit , Miami, Minny ?

Probably to the Raiders, since it's been rumored that the Raiders are interested in him.

Probably a Raider.

I don't know how good of a pro he'll be but the guy has freakish talent. During the Sugar Bowl, the announcers were talking about how he can throw a football 40 yards sitting on the ground and 80 yards standing up.

Sweet I think he will bust glad he going to Fade more than likely.

Kyle Boller can do that too, it doesn't make you a good quarterback. Russell is a turnover machine who makes poor decisions and isn't very polished as a passer. I don't think he is worth the #1 pick, but Al Davis will fall in love with his physical abilities.

good...push the players we need farther down

Just what I was thinking too ...... I wish there was a way to move up and get Thomas.

I'd rather trade down than trade up. This team has enough holes to fill that it isn't worth it to give up picks to move up. We need more draft picks, not less.

:clap: :clap: Basileus777 for GM!!!!

This thinking is exactly correct. Giving away picks is the road to ruin and is exactly why this franchise has such a dearth of talent. I wish we had someone worth trading that wasn't named Larry Johnson or Derrick Johnson.

Wow we need a QB like that. The days are over that teams can have immobil QB's like Trent Green back there. You have to have a QB with speed or at least ones that can move.

trade for micheal vick!!!!!!!!!!!!

He has to go to the Raiders. They need a Quarterback that can beat up their kicker.

Meet the new Raider QB. He's an upper case Aaron Brooks. They need someone that can work scramble behind that mess of an Oline they have.

Pardon me but why in the world would you want the Chiefs to have Vick? He may be the worst QB in the league. If Mora had an ounce of sense he'd put Vick in a slash role and start their backup. He can actually throw the ball halfway near the receiver.

One more thought: Please name me a running QB that has actually <b>won</b> a SB. Elway could run but he was a passer first. Steve Young became good when he stopped trying to be a runner. Running QBs are fun to watch but they don't typically win games.

Green can't even sidestep a LB or move up in the pocket. He is a statue back there.

At least Damon has a few moves to avoid pressure.

1) Russell is NOT a running QB. I think people who haven't seen him play assume he is because he's black.

2) Russell is FAR more talented than Aaron Brooks.

Russell has a cannon for an arm, but at times he is very erratic. The NFL safetys would eat him up right away ..........

It's being reported that Jamaal Anderson is entering the draft. Hopefully that will knock someone else down.

Sydney Rice is coming out now as well. I wouldn't mind us getting him.

<i>1) Russell is NOT a running QB. I think people who haven't seen him play assume he is because he's black.

2) Russell is FAR more talented than Aaron Brooks.</i>

I admit I've only seen one LSU game and that was against ND but he ran pretty well in that game. He's no Vick but that's a good thing. The announcers also stated that QB draws were a routine part of the LSU gameplan. So I'll stand by my conclusion that he can run. His race doesn't enter into it. That statement is insulting.

I said he was an <b>uppercase</b> Aaron Brooks. By definition that means he's more talented but in the same style. Brooks is a passer and then a runner. He's just not a very good one.

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Green made several plays in the second half yesterday after side stepping a rush or stepping up in the pocket.

As for Russell... the Raiders deserve him. He's the next Ryan Leaf/Akili Smith/Daunte Culpepper/etc... all kinds of talent, no football IQ.

His tendency for bonehead turnovers makes him a perfect fit in Oakland. The guy is the next big bust.

And makes HORRIBLE decisions.

A lot of the "draftniks" say he reminds them of Daunte Culpepper.

Me too, but Daunte of early 2006, not early 2000's.

Russell plays alot like Farve from what I saw in the bowl game

The Faiders should sign Damon Huard and draft someone else...they did a good job the last time they signed our backup QB

One thing's for certain.

If the Raiders draft him, we'll never know whether he was a good player in and of himself, because he WILL fail...

The QB of the future is more modern day McNabb than any day Vick.

McNabb had "take it down and run" take the place of his third checkdown receiver early on in his career. Now, though, he uses his mobility to move around in the pocket and scramble when necessary. He's always looking to throw first, run second. And he only runs if there's a lane.

This is what a quarterback needs to be nowadays. I think a QB who would have about 80 SPD but 99 AWR, 95 THR ACC and 93 THR PWR in Madden is much better than 97 SPD, 70 AWR, 78 THR ACC and 97 THR PWR.

The Chiefs could use a QB like that, especially considering the OL situation.

he did this against a horrible notredame defense

I agree, note the comments after a cannon arm ...........

The more skill position players that come out, the better for the Chiefs. I'd like to see 10, 1st roundesque QB, WR and RBs come out.....

ESPN reporting that Sydney Rice, WR from S. Carolina is coming out....great news for us

Alot of the draft guys say he reminds them of doug flutie

So what, great quarterbacks have a career expectancy of 6 years now. No, it's a trend. What about Manning, Rivers, Brees .....Manning again? Pretty good names, eh? Not incredibly mobile.

Before the Russell vs Quinn game, Russell ranked third nationally in quarterback efficiency (168.1), Quinn was 15th at 151.6. Russell had thrown for 2,797 yards and 26 touchdowns against 7 interceptions. Not exactly a "turnover machine," although he has made some puzzling Aaron Brooks decisions....

Peter King reported yesterday that the Raiders would be interested, so we already now know that they won't draft him.

I think he sucks.

So I hope the Raidahs take him.

I think Russell will be a good NFL QB. He's got a great arm and can run when he needs to.

Louisville's head coach is off to Atlanta, so I think Brohm will probably declare.

He also did it in the SEC, against some of the best defenses in the country.

Where are the "turnover machine" rumors coming from?

I have no idea. Some people watched them play Notre Dame I guess and they think that's the only game he played in his career.

The comparisons to Daunte Culpepper are funny. People don't pay enough attention to the level of competition a guy plays against in college.

Culpepper played at CENTRAL FLORIDA. I'm pretty sure Russell played at least 5 top 10 teams this season...

The other thing is that Russell is NOT a scrambling QB. He is a pocket passer who happens to have good speed and size when he has to run, but he is not a runner. In his sophomore and junior year he had negative yards rushing and he had less (IIRC) than 150 yards this season.

Hey ChiefNute, ya still think Russel isn't going in the first round? ROFL

28 tds and 8 ints in the SEC is pretty damn good, IMO.

Remember, though, he had a huge game vs. Nebraska that really put him on the map.

Russell has a career pattern of turning the ball several times (in scratch-your-head fashion) over in big games (see: three picks against Florida and Tennessee this season).

He plays great when there's no pressure (IE, once his team is eliminated from SEC title contention), and he plays great against the Lousiana-Lafayettes of the world, but Russell still hasn't proven he can take care of the football in important matchups against elite talent on the other side of the ball.

Exactly.

I think that most people think of him as a running QB because of the highlights that the talking heads show. Most people haven't sat down to watch every game so highlights are our only look at most athletes. The talking heads show more of his runs than passes. Maybe they are more spectacular looking on film I don't know. For whatever reason they make him look like a running QB with size and a strong arm.

Plummer will be available... just a thought that I figured I would throw out there.

He was 20 of 35 for 269 yards against Auburn with no picks, despite the fact that LSU had NO running game. And he was 14 of 22 for 210 yards and 2 scores against Arkansas.

Yes, he had a couple of bad games against elite competition. But he played against FOUR, count em, 4 top 8 teams this season and he only played poorly against HALF of them. That's hardly a pattern.

I would litterly have to burn all of my Chiefs shirts/jackets/posters and delete this site from my history and favorites. I don't even feel that is funny to even joke about.

He had his worst game this past season against some team that's playing in some 1st annual BCS championship game tonite.

Forget that the guy can throw the ball the length of the field. Russell is no scrambler. A 6-6 260 lb guy doesn't have to be. Just what you need when you're building an O-Line.

OK, but he's got to shave first.

Bugeater...? LMAO

That sir, is cruel

Thanks for being the first person to supply some backup facts for the argument. If you watched the games, which I did not, were the INT's boneheaded throws (like Quinn makes) or was it a case of Russell being a little too confident? IMO, Russell is a big strong kid, who knows he is big and strong and thinks he can get away with a little more than he actually can.

His team was already eliminated from SEC title contention against Arkansas... (which ranked 35th against the pass in the country, just one spot ahead of Missouri :rolleyes: ), and he also failed to get in the end zone against Auburn and produced just three points. Heck, even Zac Taylor managed more than that, and he was doing it with far less talent on his team (and inept coaching to boot).

It's not just that he turns the ball over. It's that when the talent level evens, his production drops off. And his turnovers are bonehead turnovers (like the fumble in the ND game or the pick on the deep throw around the goal line). I'm not just basing this opinion on 2006... it's been the story of his career.

I see one top 8 team on LSU's schedule (Florida), looking at the final rankings.

I hope Russell stays at LSU next season, plays well for a different OC (this past season's is heading to Georgia), and we draft him. He would make a great asset to any team, but I can see him playing in Atlanta, Miami, TB, or NO. NOT Oakland!

After tonight's game everyone will want to draft Troy Smith or Reggie Nelson.

Calvin Johnson just came out and declared for the draft.

At least one of them was, IIRC. I think I have a tape of that game at home... might break it out and watch it at some point tonight (halftime, perhaps?) Most of the interceptions I've seen him throw leave me wondering what he was thinking.

He makes a lot of plays in college because his size allows him to shrug off hits, then roll out and chuck it deep.

A couple more reasons I don't think he'll succeed in the NFL...

1) The speed in the secondary will be different than what he sees in college. Russell's receivers usually have a distinct speed advantage right now... when that disappears, I think he'll throw a lot more picks on busted plays than he does now because the corners will have the wheels to stay with the receivers on busted plays.

2) His size advantage will become less of a factor in the NFL because everyone is bigger, stronger, faster, better tackler, etc. He'll escape fewer pressure situations, and that's his biggest quality.

3) He's going to be playing for the Raiders. :)

Russell reminds me of Culpepper. No way I want him on the Chiefs.

That was about the worst kept secret in history........

I'd much rather have Russell than Quinn that's for sure.

Russell or Smith??

Russell vs Quinn won't impact the Chiefs, both will be gone way before we pick. The only first round qb we have a shot at is Brohm.

He's been pretty consistent that he isn't coming out.

That was before his coach left. Petrino leaving changes everything. He might not want to risk playing for a new coach and in a new scheme.

But now his coach is gone. I don't think it would be wise for him to stay and have to learn a new system his senior year.

Raiders have shown a lot of interest. Quinn is way better IMO. Give Quinn LSU's Defense and that team would be hard to beat, too much pressure on ND's offense to keep them in the game.

Yeah what he said

What if they promote his brother? His brother is one of the offensive coaches down there...they'd be stupid to hire a coach who'd completely change everything.

It looks like they will be hiring Kragthorpe from Tusla. Right now Jeff Brohm could be promoted to OC or he could go with Petrino to Atlanta. I don't know if Brohm will come out or not, but there is still a significant chance that he leaves.

Same goes for just about every top-end QB coming out of an elite school. The difference is that Russell sees SEC defenses and not garbage like the stuff Matt Leinart, for example, among others, used to see in the Pac-10.

It isn't much of a factor now. He doesn't do well because he's big and strong. And looking at similar QBs in the NFL - Big Ben and Culpepper - leads me to believe that Russell will still be able to take advantage of NFL defenses with his size.

Chief Nute is transferring some funds from savings to pay lj4mvp, as Kiper Jr. has Russell going 4th!

http://proxy.espn.go.com/melkiper/index.html

35th out of ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN. ROFL

1) He plays in the SEC. Give me a break.

2) His size advantage isn't a factor now. His ARM is.

3) I ABSOLUTELY agree.

I think he goes to Tampa....Calvin will go to the Raiders and the Bucs will bite.

Expect current Bucs team exec Doug Williams to really lobby for Jamarcus.

Don Banks day two notes include news on quarterbacks JaMarcus Russell and Troy Smith. In the article Mike Mayock is quoted, saying of Russell - "He's got the most spectacular physical skill set of any college quarterback I've ever seen.'' Russell weighed in at 6'5", 265 pounds. Smith weighed in at 6', 225 pounds and scouts are predicting he'll go late second or early third.

I heard on ESPN last night that Russell came into the combine looking "horrible", out of shape and what not. Supposedly his stock took a hit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ESPNHeadlines]

Respected draft analyst Todd McShay: best QB pro day workout he's ever seen. Russell's arm is stronger than any QB in the NFL.

Dude is a sick prospect. I really hope the Raiders fuck this one up and go with a wideout or the brittle RB.

This is the only OAK draft besides Marcus Allen that will pay off for the Chiefs.