Should Believer be banned?
 

The charge - endless spamming of the BB with religious drivel.

Yes or No.

And yes, this is a public poll. IMO, if you're going to vote to ban somebody, you shouldn't do it anonymously.

Poll??? I vote Yes

Um, duh?

BTW, Kaeding, your sig is WAY too big. 600x200 or smaller please.

Yeah I got it, it was just restored.

Ban him, no. Revoke his thread making capabilities, yes.

If we're going to ban Believer for his threads. Might as well ban Gochiefs, or previously Phobia for their spam from WPI

He's a douchebag, but probably only deserves the Hootie treatment.

Apples and oranges my friend.

How can you ban an instant source of entertainment?

Bastards.

Those articles about the Chiefs?

Technically, they were spam

The articles about the Chiefs? How so?

You have some strange ideas about what's entertaining.

I 2nd that.

If we do ban him, could we at least crucify him for irony's sake?

Chiefs articles on a Chiefs messageboard.
Technically your mother is hiding her head in shame at your reasoning.

I really...honestly...not trying to be obtuse...never did understand that Laz school of reasoning that WPI stuff was spam.

I Charger fan gets a warning but I get mine permanently removed? What the ****.

For months, they would try to get people to get people to come to thier message board and try out their magazine. They even went as far as giving away subscriptions to thier magazine.

Agreed. ESPN and SI are linked just as often and nobody thinks that is spam. It stands to reason that major sports sites are frequently going to be linked on a sports oriented messageboard, likewise it stands to reason that a Chiefs oriented news site will be linked on a Chiefs board.

The spam argument doesn't make any kind of sense except that it's people with a bias against WPI.

*I am not a shill. I never go to WPI

So you don't have a problem with the Chiefs articles they posted?

With the articles, no. With the way they were whoring out thier site, yes.

I was a little amazed at the number of threads on the subject of religion when I logged in this evening.

In my mind, Mr. Believer has some issues. He may be brainwashed, in fact. However, I hesitate to recommend banning. I would rather see his thread-making privileges curtailed somehow in order to derail his crusade to convert the Planet heathens.

I respect his views as well as his right to speak his mind (although I'm somewhat unconvinced of his sincerity), but I think he would find it more enjoyable posting religious subjects on a board suited to spiritual topics.

But, now that I think about it, perhaps a darn good scourging is in order. Then we can decide whether to ban him or Barabas.

FAX

I guess I see your point? But not really aside from the whoring being very very minimal esp when you talk about the creation of threads.

Besides that, established members have always had leeway to pimp their own shit in a cases where if noobs did the same thing they would be squashed fast.

I guess I am a good example...if I had pushed all the stuff I do on ZachIsHere.com or my upcoming photography store and wasn't established as a contributor here it wouldn't go over. Ali Chiefs comes to mind...there are more examples...

Seems much ado about nothing. :hmmm:

I agree with you here



as far as the topic of the thread goes...

I love Jesus.

but no one will listen to the message as long as it is be force down their throat... if people have questions about religion and feel beliver can help with that then that should probably take place in a P.M or something

His crusade is for naught.

Don't lump me in with Phil. I wasn't trying to get anyone to come over to Warpaint. And I gave away no subscriptions.

Thread posting restrictions would be better than nothing. But still, people like this don't get better; it's not like this guy is an enemy troll who'll one day get assimilated into the community. He's a crusader; he's here to crusade. That's all he'll ever do.

If I'm not mistaken, the rule is to have a simple link in your sig. Getting back to the point, what is the reasoning behind banishment? I'm not defending the guy, but it would seem that taking away his thread making capablities would cure the problem.

I know you agree he shouldn't be banned, but why do others believe he should? Anybody.


SPchief,
just trying to figure it out.

Mine was permanantely (sp?) removed a month or two ago, and I just asked for it back, someone thought I just put it up, but infact I had yet to remove it. Ask a mod for your privelages back.

You may very well be right, Mr. frazod.

The main problem I have with him is his seeming lack of consideration for the other members who have clearly had enough. That seems extremely un-Christianlike to my mind. Faith isn't a test in public obstinance.

The way I see it is, if he can learn to respect other members, great. If not, make him eat raw slugs.

FAX

After reviewing a fair number of his posts, it seems he has posted enough non-religious stuff for me to reluctantly vote no to banning. I am on the "losing his thread starting privileges" bandwagon though.

YES

reminds me of when we banned jesus and let barabas stay

That's an awfully big sig you've got there.

I would be satisfied if his thread creation privelages be removed. But banning certainly would make me happy as well.

Good point Mr. Fax about your doubts of his sincerity. He certainly has gotten the attention he desires.

I haven't read his latest ramblings, and I ain't gonna.

I have no problem with someone being religious, but to come on here and nail yourself to the cross and act so damn dysfunctional is disturbing to me. I voted for ban, but the thread revoking privileges seem to be a better option.

amen to that, brother

Kill teh witch

bump

why

Believe or not, there is a precedent being set in this thread.

believe it or not

no there isn't

it's been done before

with the same boring results

link?

good luck with that

threads only date back a year

I know it was a pissing match between Iowian and some other dumbshit


Phil stepped in and declared what i believe to be true
when people can start voting someone off it becomes a popularity contest

Who the **** wants to be a part of a bb community that's ran like a yahoo chat room

I've read through threads from 02, even bumped a few, one in particular looked like it would be fun to hear the storyline, and many people were mad. It was something to do with VDprez's parody of JDprez's website.

I'm thinking you didn't read the whole thread. I've basically said the same thing.

nope not really if it is still around then it would be in the romper room

my point being the precedent was already set

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=98188


I don't know where the romper room is, this is in hunt club.

I guess it doesn't exist anymore.

Database has had several problems throughout the years, many things have come and gone.

Learn a little, please.

Ask anyone who's been on here for more than 1 month

so did you cat die recently? Who pissed in your cheerios? I was asking someone who's been here more than one month, in an attempt to understand and learn.

several forums have come and gone
different concepts and if i remember correctly multiple threads

database has held up pretty consistently lately

This seems like a reasonable compromise.

Yep,I concur.

Neither ban him nor take away his thread making abilities. He's already got enough of a martyr complex. No need to fuel the flames.

I'm just not a fan of banning someone except in the most extreme of cases. If he's threatening members, then of course, but just proselytizing and aping the 700 Club on here, although incredibly moronic, is not worthy of a ban, IMO.

P.S. FWIW, I'm not a fan of the mob mentality of banning people either.

Although highly irritated by Believer I say no ban. Eventually he'll tire of his schtick and go away. What irritates me most is some peoples belief that what Believer is doing is what Christianity is all about. It's not. There are a ton of Christians on this board. Myself included. We are not nutjobs who feel the need to cram things down your throat. Acting like Believer does more harm than good.

I question whether Believer is really a Christian or someone playing the role of a Christian in order to ruffle peoples feathers. But then again I've also questioned whether MeMe is a real left wing nut job or someone playing the role of one. Her schtick is sometimes too hard to believe also.

Either way, if you don't like the threads, ignore them. Simple enough. The same way you can ignore pooties irritating threads.

no, His heart is in the right place.

That is my vote. Of course, if he starts hijacking threads after that, then he should be banned.

Just ignore his threads. Let him stay.

That's what I would like.

Does a cat just rip off a mouse's head from the very beginning? **** no. Play with it a bit.

If you want to ban someone for spamming and endless drivel, you should ban GoChiefs.

No ban, but I agree with limited or no thread starting privileges.

He should lose his thread-making ability for awhile. Everyone here has a right to speak his mind, but half the threads on the first page is just too much. His incessant repetitiveness is having the opposite effect here- please don't think his over-the-top zealousness is shared by all of us Christian CP'ers.

That being said, there may indeed be enough talk about religion here to merit it's own sub-forum... Theological Planet? Has a nice ring to it... :)

Z

Use the ignore function.

It's the offseason. This board is going to be bombarded with annoying drivel for the next 2 1/2 months until the draft.

He shouldn't lose any rights on this board. I do like the idea of having a separate forum for that. However, it is off season and poop threads and all kind of ridiculous stuff is allowed. I say let the brother preach.
People can choose to read or ignore his threads.

Can't believe what a collection of hethens we have here. 45% of you are going to Hell. And you know what that means? You'll be down there with Carl!

I see one religious thread from him and many threads from others... plus many "Where's the best..." threads.

Then again, it's the offseason... :shrug:

just merge all his threads into one huge "Jesus Finger Bangs Me" thread...

I agree with this..otoh, it's fun watching everyone foam at the mouth over something they supposedly don't give any merit to.

There are a lot of things I don't give two shits about, as you probably do as well, but I have a feeling if some guy kept calling you up at dinner time, asking you about your long distance service, despite your own apathy, you might become a bit perturbed after a while...now, here do you have the option of not clicking on the link, but you can also screen your calls or use CID...nevertheless, it's a constant annoyance perpetuated by naivete and ignorance and that is what riles people's feathers.

I'm voting "Dont ban" but with the stipulation that thread making is revoked.

I don't believe it would be out of line to contact him/her and explain the reasons behind it. Also, I would keep an eye on their posts in other threads in case they take the crusade from the posts he/she starts and moves it into every post that is made. That seems like reason enough for a permanent ban at that point.

Purely religious posts should be in the DC or Romper room forum.
I personally having an issue with other people making moral judgements on my choices in life.

I voted for banning because it's the best of only 2 options. I believe a better course would be a group shunning.

One thread every two days isn't ban-worthy, IMO. Close all of the parody threads & threads complaining about it.

His threads aren't filling the board... it's all those freakin' comedians...

No, simply put him on "ignore". Chiefsplanet prides itself on being a sort of anything goes BB, and I'd hate to see the Planet turn into a board that endorses censorship based solely on an unpopular point of view.