Graham signs with Denver
 

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5370262

got him.

Now, can we have Trent Green to mentor Cutler?

Sure. Can we have Champ Bailey to mentor Ty Law?

"The Thomas Jefferson High School graduate and former CU star signed a $30 million deal with $15 million in guaranteed money."

Good lord...

That was what I was thinking. That is alot of money for an average backup TE.

Maybe. Ask again when Champ is 37.

Larry Johnson deserves about $40 million worth of guaranteed money in this market.

[Mecca]Not with his knees ready to explode.[/Mecca]

I'm not sure why you even needed Graham.

That's a lot of money for a TE period.

$6M a year? $15M guaranteed?

To each their own.....

That's kind of what I was thinking.

More than what Vernon Davis got from the Niners last year, which made him the highest paid TE in the league.......

Lord I hope we let him go in free agency before we give him that kind of money.:shake:

Shut up bitch.

Well, we'll see how it all works out. I think it's a bit much on the $ side, but we'll see. Amnorix should be by soon to tell me why this is bad news.

Well, the Donkey Homer Force is happy about this. :rolleyes:

He is a very good blocker and a decent receiver, but 6 mil a year is alot for a TE that isn't anything special, especially when you have Scheffler.

I'm about a year out from not taking the brunt of these stupid contracts.

? Meaning, you're about a year away from not buying game tickets, etc?

Tony Gonzalez's worst year is better than Graham's best year.

If you need Amnorix to tell you why paying Daniel Graham $6M a year is bad news.....

I'm just curious on the comments he'll throw out...

That can't be a real quote. Can it?

Tony Gonzalez eats pieces of shit like Daniel Graham for breakfast.

I'm sure it is... you've seen some of the crazy comments from KC fans right? All fans make crazy statements at some point.

From the Mane?

Probably.

He's basically filling the role that Carswell had for so long, he's just faster and more athletic.

That comment about him being the best in the West is embarrassing though.

Now it's time for the annual raping of the Redskins trade.

We run a lot of 2 tight end sets and he fits us extremely well...better than most teams....he is a better than decent receiver...he has good speed and is a quite good pass catcher but you'd never know it because of Ben Watson......this signing will enable us to be more of a dual threat on running downs...scheffler is a pitiful blocker right now....

graham is considered by some the best blocking TE in the league and he was actually under-utilized in NE as of late....

6 mil is still a bit much...but who cares...it ain't my money....i just want denver to win.....

he is a big asset to our offense....

Bob spends more time on the Mane than most Bronco fans. He can't even post there (at least not under his own moniker), but he still parks his big ass there to lurk. If he says it was said, I probably believe it was said.

Yeah, but he's not being paid like someone just filling that role.

I've posted six times in two months. I only have one account. Flame away.

Tell you what guys. Y'all worry about playing us. We'll worry about paying us.

Most definitely. But this would be one for the Crazy Hall of Fame.

Yep, but this is the new NFL. Like the tongue-in-cheek comment about LJ getting $40M in guarantees, I'm curious what great players are going to get if they hit the market. Freeney is going to be a good example of what elite players are going to get if he signs long-term this offseason.

Back to Graham, he'll be much more active in the passing game than Carswell was. $5-6M is what I thought his deal would average, though I didn't think he'd get $15M guaranteed. Like I said here on the first day of FA, there was no question that someone would give him what he wants, we just have to wait and see if he's worth it.

Top 5 $$ for the 10-15th best TE in the league.

The market is out of control.

I think he'll be a good addition over there, but $6M per?

For a blocking TE?

And you guys miss him so much that you've followed him over here just to talk to him.

Average backup TE? Or the best blocking TE in the NFL who wasn't utilized for his offensive skills because of the presence of Ben Watson?

ROFL

You might want to worry about your D-line or lack there of first

Guess we just have to thank God that it's just the 5th day of FA and there's still time to address that, like in the draft when they have 4 picks on the first day.

"Might want to worry?" There ain't no might about it.

Hell, we passed "might want to worry" a couple seasons ago.

He's not the best blocking tight end in the league.

You had that quote posted here within five minutes of it being posted there. The ironic thing is that you're the king of homers. I seem to recall a thread on the Mane last offseason about Samie Parker being as good as Marvin Harrison. What's a dumber comment? Daniel Graham is better than Tony Gonzalez (granted, not the smartest comment in the world) or Samie Parker is as good as Marvin Harrison (one of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on a football messageboard)?

Don't get me wrong - there's nothing wrong with being a homer. It's just stupid to be one whilst mocking someone else for it.

Graham lined up on the line, Scheffler in the slot, Javon Walker and Brandon Marshall at WR, Henry at RB and Cutler at QB...

What does Gunther do?

I never said Parker was as good as Harrison. And yes, I do lurk alot, so I saw that quote. I wasn't refuting that.

Or we've come over here because the Mane crashes every time we make a significant offseason move.

This is one place where we don't have to worry about that, at least. :)

He's about 15th off the top of my head. Probably a little lower if I looked further.

This is a trick question. No one knows what Gunther does.

Let Hali eat Cutler's lunch.

Now if only Cutler can throw to him without it getting picked off. :)

Sometime when it won't take two hours on the Mane to search for it (with plenty of error messages in the process), I'll find it and post a link for you. The great thing about the Internet is that your dumbassery is archived for situations just like this one.

Get used to seeing these kind of deals. After the sticker shocker wears away...you'll see that this is a good deal. This guy can block like dunn with better speed and better hands, is he TG...**** no..but he's smarter...that much is for sure.

Lemme guess. In no particular order:

Gonzo
Gates
Crumpler
Heap
Shockey
Davis
Winslow
Witten
Clark
Cooley
McMichael


That's 11. Who am I missing?

The great thing is that I know exactly what I said, and there was nothing homeristic about it.

LJ Smith, Heath Miller, and Ben Watson.

Scatch his ass and flip off a Donkey fan.

Pats offered him about $4M/year per the rumor mill, but he wanted to test the market, and 5-6M/year was sort of the expectation, and this falls roughly in line with that.

He's a legitimate, starting NFL TE, and will make some unbelievable catches. He will also drop some stunningly easy ones. It's really very strange. He can make the hard look easy and the easy look hard. He can be a beast with the ball in his hands in the open field.

Pats usually just used him as a blocker, and he is a top tier blocker for a Tight End.

He does tend to miss more time than you might like due to injuries. Usually nothing severe, but he always seems to be suffering from something or other, which costs him playing time.

He is reasonably young - he's on the right side of 30.

He went to Colorado, so this is a homecoming.

errr....can't think what else to say. Good player. Very solid contributor. He'll help you win games with his blocking but won't remind anyone of Shannon Sharpe in terms of catching the ball. Good all-around guy to have on any team.

Many with actual football knowledge would say otherwise. But humor me...name some TE's that are better.

We'll find out soon if he's worth the crazy cash... it's not my money, so they can feel free to go wild.

I'm guessing the draft will be all defense.

Yep. That's 12. Miscounted the first post.

EDIT: Heath Miller, Ben Watson.

14.

"Davis
Winslow
Witten
Clark
Cooley
McMichael"

reach...none of these guys have the all around game like Graham.

ROFL That's kind of reaching for something isn't it?

But but but...he's smarter...yeah, that's it...he's smarter!!!!

LOL, I love Donkey fans. I hope you were kidding with that.

You're silly if you'd take Graham over any of them.

It is the NFL, you see the talent you have listed above week in and week out.

Hali would just overrun the pitch out to Henry with subsequent cutback like every other KC DE has been doing for years.

Agreed that he is a top-notch blocker. Definitely NOT underutilized. He was our starter, and we run tons and tons of 2 TE sets. He's an inconsistent catcher, is one thing you'll note. He'll catch some hard ones and drop some easy ones that will make you scream.

He could be, especially as a top-flight blocker and occasional pass-catcher. I will note that he can be a beast in the open field when the mood strikes.

Didn't the NFL let you do that once before, which ended up with y'all cheating your way to a Super Bowl win?

Just saying...

So you're saying that the list I provided is just average NFL talent? Give me a break...

Yeah, somehow Cutler, Graham, Henry, Scheffler, and Marshall are scary offensive players. ROFL

Get your facts straight. Last year KC's defense dominated Denver's offense.

So, in a nutshell, he's the blocking version of Jerramy Stevens?

Yes, we will. Fortunately for you, you'll only see that kind of talent twice a year.

I am not saying they are bad but...just naming those players? Was that supposed to wow us?

This is the NFL.

The talent level of Denver's offense is something this Chiefs team will see a lot this upcoming season.

*cough* You did note that we were winning SBs before Watson was even drafted, and that Graham wasn't setting the world on fire with his receiving then either, right?

Here's the thing -- on any given play he can only EITHER block or catch. He can't really do both on the same play. The more you want him to be the great blocker that he is, the less chances he will have to catch it.

One rumor here is that he left partly because he wants to do more than just block a helluva lot, which may likely be true.

Yep. When we play Sandy Eggo.

It's all good. They let us keep the rings and all.

OK now we want to talk about who is a homer? My god man get a clue.