The worst possible pick...
 

Of the players projected to go in the first round, which player would be the worst possible pick Carl could make at #23? Please only list players who have been projected as first round picks in at least one reputable publication.


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Paul Poszlusny

Brian Leonard

Marshawn Lynch

Tank Tyler or Ted Ginn jr. at the #23 slot

Worst? Some random sixth-round prospect.

Realistically, I don't like Aaron Ross much, and I'd rather not go OG in round one.

Ross would be a reach too, but drafting a Guard wouldn't bother me if that OG would be Ben Grubbs

Tank we agree on but Ginn never even gets to us in most mocks. Ginn would be a steel at 23 and would spell doom for Dante.

All of the one's listed would be on my list, particularly Poszlusny and Ross.

agree, and that Tank guy...and I'm not sold on Rice either

Ted Ginn

Anybody cryin that Tank Tyler is not work a #1, how'd ya like to spend your #1 pick on a kick returner? didn't think so.

I like Tyler in the 1st so I'll disagree with most of you on that. IMO he has moved into the 1st rd and might even be closing in on Branch as the #2 DT in the draft. I think he is the anti-Sims.

Anyway I'd pick Poszlusny.

*edit - nevermind, I misunderstood.

As for me, I won't be happy if we pick Bowe , Rice, or Staley.

I'll be disappointed if we take Staley at 23.

dewayne jarrett..can you say mike williams?

TE Greg Olsen

Dwayne Jarret and Ryan Harris, Harris I would like but not in the 1st.

Good one.

But it's still not the worst pick.

Anybody that thinks Posluzny would be the worst possible pick is crazy, IMO.

Is he our biggest need? No. But what you get with Posluzny is a guy like Hali but with superior instincts and superior leadership. If a team is sincere about building a defense, he'd be a very solid, safe pick. But he probably won't be there, anyway. If he is and we don't pick him I'll bet he goes to NE right after us.

I'm not pushing for him but I wouldn't be diappointed to see him line up behind Allen. I'm not sold that any Ts, CBs, or DTs left at 23 will be worth the first pick. The only receiver I'm sold on is Meachem. Ginn has awesome ability but can he be a polished receiver? So, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to reach for a need when there's a ten-year starter staring you in the face.

Maybe we'll trade down.

keep ****in doubtin' Paul Poszlusny!!

Pos may have the desire and heart of Hali, but he just doesn't have the physical skills. I can't imagine spending a 1st-round pick on him...

This shows that you have never seen him play. I work with an Ohio State fan so and we always watched OS games.

Ginn is a freaking monster. I would LOVE to see Croyle to Ginn for the TD!!! This would be a GREAT pickup for KC at 23... though I think he will be gone by 15 at the latest.

You may be right but I don't think so. He's a football player. And when you're talking about defense, that's what you want. It seems to me that production is the name of the game on defense. And Posluzny produces. I remember how badly I wanted Spielman back in the day.

The great thing about these kind of debates is that time will tell.

I think Poluszny goes to Pittsburgh anyway.

I agree.

Yes, mostly true.

So what's your take, is every draft site on the intranet just wrong about him? He's a polished route runner? Great hands? Beats the jam at the LOS? Great blocker? Doesn't just simply try to outrun everyone? Won't have any problem adjusting to the next level when he can't just outrun everyone?

You've seen him often, I haven't. Help a brutha out.

I am a die hard Buckeye fan, I have been my enitre life. Ginn is a very good reciever, he is definetely a good pick at 23, he has solid hands and runs very good routes, and is just plain fast. He doesnt give up on plays and he blocks down field with some of the best of them. If Croyle could throw to Ginn that would make for a fun season to watch as Ginn is so hard to over throw although Troy Smith did a few times as he has a rocket for an arm. I agree with you Vegas_Dave.

I havent seen any draft sites that are down on him. Most I see have him going anywhere from #11 to #30 in the draft.

In my opinion:

Pros: Great Hands, Great Speed, Excellent release of the LOS - Doesnt TRY to outrun everyone, that just seems to happen naturally.

Cons: Blocking ability is really an unknown - since he was not commonly used in that role.


He is a true play maker. He made Troy Smith look like a star. When he got hurt in the championship game, Troy Smith flopped miserably.

I think that a player like Ginn makes the team around him better. I think he can help Brodie Croyle develop by giving him a deep go to guy that can come up with the ball. He stretches the field which will make Gonzalez better by spreading the defense thus allowing Tony G to be more open.

KC needs a Speed WR that can make plays. We supposedly had speed with the various young guys over the years, but I have yet to see that materialize. I do not think that it will be an issue with Ginn.

Brady Quinn (thankfully, we won't need to worry about this.)

His knee issue is what makes me wary on Poz.

Look at his junior year and then look at the way he played better at the end of his senior year versus the beginning. He was working the injury out, IMO. Plus, I'm pretty sure that he shifted from right outside to the middle from his junior to his senior season.

He would have been a top ten easy if he had opted to come out in his junior year, IMO.

I concur, but still it's bothersome

Compared to the offensive players of his day, Spielman was fairly athletic.

The speed of the game has changed greatly.

But maybe it was just his knee that was causing it, could very well be.

This question should be rephrased to the worse possible realistic pick.

For example, I don't consider us taking Greg Olsen a realistic possibility with Tony still going strong.

So IMO the worse possible realistic pick could probably be...

Tank Tyler. I think he'd be a reach at 23rd. I think he's clearly behind Okoye & Branch. Nobody was talking about this guy until he recently had a good workout.... No thanks.

And what I mean by realistic is by guys I believe would could very well draft.

(Jarrett, Meachem, Tyler, Ginn, Staley, Ross, Blalock, Rice)

I think any one of these guys could easily be a Chief come draft day.

As much as everyone would hate it, if Olsen was still there at 23, don't think for a second Carl wouldn't pull the trigger.

I'd replace him with Rice on your list, and add Darrelle Revis, Chris Houston and possibly Carriker or Timmons.

I have a feeling we'll be very surprised with the pick come draft day.....


And re: Tank Tyler, many, many people were talking about him before his workout. Just not here.

yeah, before the season then he got totally owned at the Senior Bowl. The man wasn't getting any push at all I saw it myself.

IIRC, Marcus McNeil had a poor Senior Bowl also.....

Could be wrong, maybe it was workouts. Something made him drop, and Sandy Eggo is reaping the benefits.....

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Great hands?

The three times I watched OSU, he dropped 2-3 easy catches each time.

I'd be pissed of if we picked Sidney Rice.

Souldn't have to worry about that, IMO. Just a guess, but if Jarrett and Meacham are gone at 23, were going CB.

I said Daymeion Hughes a month ago, so I'll stick to it, even though his stock has dropped recently. Wouldn't be surprised (or upset) to see Revis or Houston either if the above WR's are gone....

what about Tony Ugoh? Where is he slated to go now? I have always kind of thought it might be between Ugoh or Houston from Arkansas. I just don't know if Herm will draft a CB this early with his reputation of being able to find good CB's later in the draft.

Rice....and by the way with the majority,it seems, of people on the planet wanting a WR-Bowe,Meachum,or Jarret...I'm saying right now Rice will be the pick.

Have we even brought him in for a workout? I know we brought in Meachem. I really would like to see us draft him or Ted Ginn Jr. Ginn is too much of a playmaker and is too explosive offensively to really pass up and he would definately help on ST.

I have never been a fan of any Spurrier groomed WR.

I hear CAR is wanting to shop Kris Jenkins for pick(s). If Carl could somehow jump on that, theres no way we dont go WR or CB in the first round.

I doubt it will be Rice. He pissed a lot of people off when he refused to officially run at his Pro day. I think he's going to slide right out of the first round, if he ever was a legit first rounder.

Other than watching Ginn and his reports all suggest he's a 3rd WR that does punts and kicks.....I don't really think that's worthy of 1st round.

Agreed. Someone will take him in R1, but I hope it's not us.

Like I said earlier, If Jarrett and Meacham are gone, we won't draft a WR R1, more likely the value will be at CB. JMO.

I think Rice and Meacham are pretty equal players when you factor in who they were playing with and overall talent.

I'm sure Rice will run before the draft, he wouldn't be very smart not too. Either way Rice does have the talent to be a #1 so picking him is ok with me.

He has the talent, but his stock seems to be sliding. Him not running may have something to do with it, but I'm wondering if there's another reason or two......

I'll be honest, I know nothing about him away from the field. Maybe his Wonderlich scores, maybe he interwiew poorly, who knows.

All I do know is that Rice and Bowe seem to be on a downward spiral out of R1 for some reason. Maybe it's just that other players are moving up and pushing them down the ladder.....

It's weird because they are basically polar opposites of each other. Rice is a tall lanky kid that is still growing into his body and is just naturally talented.

Bowe is a workout machine that is likely going to post better numbers than his playing ability......

Well, we're still three weeks out. A lot can and will change before April 28.

Yeah perhaps I shouldn't of listed Rice. I mean I think it's possible he could become a Chief if by some miracle he's there in the 2nd. But I don't think we'd take him with the 1st.

I think he'll be better than Meachem though.