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Bill Lundberg 04-14-2007 10:41 AM

RB Priest Holmes stays evasive on his future in NFL
 
RB Priest Holmes stays evasive on his future in NFL
Written by: Tom Orsborn ¦ 4/13/2007
Source: www.mysanantonio.com
Despite being Marshall's defensive linchpin during the Rams' run to the 1991 Class 5A Division II title game, end N.D. Kalu never sat on the bench to rest when the offense took the field.
Kalu's reason for standing when he could have been taking a much-deserved breather was simple: He didn't want to miss Priest Holmes in action.

"I was always on my feet watching him because I knew he was going to do something spectacular," Kalu said. "Every game, he always had at least one magical run. Some backs have only one all season. Priest had at least one every game.

"And I didn't want to miss any of them."

Now a member of the Houston Texans, Kalu continues to track Holmes. And like other fans of the Texas alumnus, Kalu wants to know whether Holmes will attempt a comeback with the Kansas City Chiefs after missing all of last season and the final nine games of the 2005 season with a neck injury.

But when it comes to revealing his plans, Holmes has proved to be just as elusive as he was during high school.

"I've known the guy for over 15 years and he won't give me a straight answer," Kalu said.

Although the odds are against Holmes playing again, he hasn't filed retirement papers with the NFLPA, a union spokesperson said Friday. And close friends and family members say they remain in the dark about Holmes' plans.

"I've stopped imposing on him," Holmes' stepfather Herman Morris said. "He's very elusive when it comes to this. He seems not sure about it himself."

That indecision surprises many observers. After all, Holmes turns 34 in October and doctors have told him he faces permanent damage if he plays again.

Then there's the difficulty he would face gaining a roster spot on a team deep at running back with Larry Johnson, the league's second-leading rusher last season with 1,789 yards, and Michael Bennett.

But Kalu noted Holmes has bounced back from career-threatening injuries before, including three knee injuries and a hip displacement.

"He's resilient," Kalu said. "He never gives up. He's had four injuries to the same leg and that didn't stop him. I remember when I tore my ACL how tough it was to come back. I love football, but I told myself if that ever happens again, I'm giving this up."

Holmes, who was unavailable for comment, is the Chiefs' career leader in rushing yards (5,933), touchdowns (83) and yards from scrimmage (8,293). A 10-year veteran, he spent his first four seasons with Baltimore and has career numbers that include 8,035 rushing yards and 94 TDs. His 66 TDs between 2002-2004 are an NFL record for a three-year span.

Holmes' contract expires after the 2009 season. He restructured the pact in March 2006 to give the club salary cap relief, lowering his base salary from $3.75 million to $710,000. He's scheduled to earn $870,000 in 2007.

"If he does retire, Priest, his agent and (Chiefs general manager) Carl Peterson would probably work out some kind of settlement," Chiefs spokesman Josh Looney said Friday.

But Looney said the Chiefs haven't ruled out Holmes attempting a comeback even though he hasn't attended any of the team's voluntary offseason workouts.

Morris said Holmes' last medical examination came last month in Miami and that Holmes said it went "pretty well."

"We certainly would welcome him back to active status if he is medically cleared," Looney said. "We're waiting for word from him on what he wants to do .... Until we hear something, we will assume he is still training in San Antonio."

Holmes' San Antonio-based personal trainer Bay Bay McClinton said Holmes' workouts this year have been spotty.

"He has worked out some, but it's not been consistent," McClinton said. "He last worked out with me last month but only for a couple of days."

Still, McClinton estimated it would take only two months for Holmes to get into shape for training camp, which starts in late July.

But Morris suggested Holmes might want to continue spending time with his four children. Holmes isn't scheduled to make a public appearance until May 5, when he will be inducted into the Texas High School Sports Hall of Fame in Waco.

Such a venue might seem like a perfect spot for a retirement announcement, but McClinton and Kalu predicted Holmes would stay mum.

"I don't think he owes anyone a quick answer," Kalu said. "He just has to wait and see how his body feels."
http://www.mysanantonio.com RB Priest Holmes stays evasive on his future in NFL

TinyEvel 04-14-2007 10:58 AM

Print 'em.

ROFL


Apparently Kalu has never read this board.

He's done. He's had a great careeer. Time to relax. Besides, nachos are really good. And Roaf's BBQ is second to none.

Mecca 04-14-2007 11:06 AM

I've had enough of this crap........if he's not going to just retire it's time for the Chiefs to move on from this garbage and just cut the guy.

DaFace 04-14-2007 11:07 AM

There haven't been any reports that I've heard of him keeping in shape on his own, anyway. Even if he tried to come back, I can't imagine him being in shape to be more than just a bench warmer.

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I've had enough of this crap........if he's not going to just retire it's time for the Chiefs to move on from this garbage and just cut the guy.

he's trying to get the chiefs to cut him ....... so he can keep all his money.

Mecca 04-14-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
he's trying to get the chiefs to cut him ....... so he can keep all his money.

That's probably true but he's going to get it all if he keeps playing this game too because his contract isn't up anytime soon thanks to his extension.........

I don't wanna be sitting here in 2009 reading about how Priest Holmes plans to return, sometimes it's better to just move on.

siberian khatru 04-14-2007 11:17 AM

Yawn

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
That's probably true but he's going to get it all if he keeps playing this game too because his contract isn't up anytime soon thanks to his extension.........

I don't wanna be sitting here in 2009 reading about how Priest Holmes plans to return, sometimes it's better to just move on.

not really ...... if he doesn't ever come back the Chiefs are going to immediately file for partial repayment of his signing bonus due to voluntary retirement

kcxiv 04-14-2007 11:36 AM

if i was Priest i woulld be doing the same thing. Pay me bitches. Who wouldnt want to get paid?

GoHuge 04-14-2007 11:37 AM

As stated this is all about money and that huge signing bonus. His ass isn't ever going to see the field again. Hopefully this little experience will keep the Chiefs from signing plus-30 RB's to long term deals. Probably won't.

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv
if i was Priest i woulld be doing the same thing. Pay me bitches. Who wouldnt want to get paid?

true ...... but if you were the Chiefs wouldn't you want some money back?

Holmes signed a contract with a signing bonus amount based on him playing 7 years. He played 3( or 4??).


Half the play, Half the signing bonus


can't blame the Chiefs for that either

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge39
As stated this is all about money and that huge signing bonus. His ass isn't ever going to see the field again. Hopefully this little experience will keep the Chiefs from signing plus-30 RB's to long term deals. Probably won't.

they just gave a big new contract to a 31 year old Tightend ..... so i'd say it pretty safe to say they havne't learned that lesson yet.

TRR 04-14-2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
they just gave a big new contract to a 31 year old Tightend ..... so i'd say it pretty safe to say they havne't learned that lesson yet.

Comparing the TE position after 30, to the RB position after 30, isn't even comparable. You can play the TE position well into your mid 30's. The RB position? Not so much.

Mecca 04-14-2007 12:34 PM

I await the big Larry Johnson contract in which something similiar occurs.......

Hammock Parties 04-14-2007 12:36 PM

Embrace the future:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2...johnsonoc8.jpg

Mecca 04-14-2007 12:39 PM

Larry Johnson doesn't have 7 productive years and the Chiefs sign these extensions for 6-7 years, the odds of it being similiar are pretty likely.

Hammock Parties 04-14-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Larry Johnson doesn't have 7 productive years and the Chiefs sign these extensions for 6-7 years, the odds of it being similiar are pretty likely.

I think he does. He's going to defy the odds.

Chiefs Pantalones 04-14-2007 12:47 PM

Retire already, damn.

Deberg_1990 04-14-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Larry Johnson doesn't have 7 productive years and the Chiefs sign these extensions for 6-7 years, the odds of it being similiar are pretty likely.

depends on how you define productive? If you mean 1700 yard seasons, no of course not.

id say a couple more of those followed by seasons of 1000-1300 yards for the rest of his career...

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
Comparing the TE position after 30, to the RB position after 30, isn't even comparable. You can play the TE position well into your mid 30's. The RB position? Not so much.

i don't know ....... Tightend is turning into more of a speed position lately.

to me, only QB and Oline are really the only positions that are safe above the age of 30.

kcxiv 04-14-2007 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
true ...... but if you were the Chiefs wouldn't you want some money back?

Holmes signed a contract with a signing bonus amount based on him playing 7 years. He played 3( or 4??).


Half the play, Half the signing bonus


can't blame the Chiefs for that either

if i were the Chiefs FO, yes i would want the money back, or at least some of it. Being Priest, i think its worth it to hold out for so long to see what happens. Its not hurting him 1 bit. Buisness is buisness. I think alot of fans fail to see this. To use its a game, but to them its their jobs, and it stopped being a game after high school.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:11 PM

I get annoyed with running into people who really think he's coming back.........

stevieray 04-14-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I get annoyed with running into people who really think he's coming back.........

why?

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray
why?

I know people who really think he's coming back and is going to be what he was in 2003......and make comments like "He should start over LJ when he comes back"

Ponder that for a minute.

kcxiv 04-14-2007 01:20 PM

I really dont think people beleive that. I hang around here, and in another Chiefs forum and i dont know anyone like that. I know people that think he can be productive, but not what he was back in 2003

Deberg_1990 04-14-2007 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I know people who really think he's coming back and is going to be what he was in 2003......and make comments like "He should start over LJ when he comes back"

Ponder that for a minute.

Priest never had a season with as many rushing yards as LJ has had the past 2 years..........Your absolutely right.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv
I really dont think people beleive that. I hang around here, and in another Chiefs forum and i dont know anyone like that. I know people that think he can be productive, but not what he was back in 2003

Maybe informed fan on the forums doesn't but think of average Joe fan you run across........

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I get annoyed with running into people who really think he's coming back.........



not trying to annoy you, I think he could come back. I don't pretend to think he will regain his prior form, nor do I think he should play ahead of LJ, but a good third and long, spell back.

He hasn't filed retirement papers, he is still getting medical opinions on what is happening, he obviously still wants to, but is concerned about the long term effects. I don't blame him for that.

but if there is a player that could come back in this postition, he is the one who could, that's for sure.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:31 PM

If it meant keeping about 7 million dollars opposed to paying it back I wouldn't be filing any papers either.....

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
If it meant keeping about 7 million dollars opposed to paying it back I wouldn't be filing any papers either.....


seven million? I haven't heard that number. but I also doubt he has that type of character to hang on to hope just for some extra money. Nacho's are pretty inexpensive.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:34 PM

If Holmes files papers he will have to repay the Chiefs atleast half his signing bonus........he isn't filing any papers he'll continue to say this till his contract expires.

stevieray 04-14-2007 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I know people who really think he's coming back and is going to be what he was in 2003......and make comments like "He should start over LJ when he comes back"

Ponder that for a minute.


that's fine...but why does it annoy you that people think he could come back?

StcChief 04-14-2007 01:59 PM

Priest maybe could be #3 and a good locker room presence. I don't want a nacho man in the booth.

BigRock 04-14-2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
If Holmes files papers he will have to repay the Chiefs atleast half his signing bonus........

The article said that if Priest retires, they'll work out a settlement. That means he can pay back any amount from his bonus. Or none of it.

Just as one example, when Deion Sanders retired the first time, he was planning to hold out from the Redskins because he wanted out of there. Only if he held out, he'd end up losing like $6 or $7 million of his $8 million bonus if he did. So he retired instead and reached a settlement with the team where he only paid them back like $2 million. Half of half of his bonus. And that was a situation where Deion had blasted the team and said he wanted out, a tense negotiation. Hardly like the situation between Priest and KC.

If Priest decides he's done, they'll have a press conference with hugs and kisses, and DV will probably show up and bawl. They aren't going to make Priest pay back a bunch of money. And he already restructured his deal to practically the bare minimium.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock
The article said that if Priest retires, they'll work out a settlement. That means he can pay back any amount from his bonus. Or none of it.

Just as one example, when Deion Sanders retired the first time, he was planning to hold out from the Redskins because he wanted out of there. Only if he held out, he'd end up losing like $6 or $7 million of his $8 million bonus if he did. So he retired instead and reached a settlement with the team where he only paid them back like $2 million. Half of half of his bonus. And that was a situation where Deion had blasted the team and said he wanted out, a tense negotiation. Hardly like the situation between Priest and KC.

If Priest decides he's done, they'll have a press conference with hugs and kisses, and DV will probably show up and bawl. They aren't going to make Priest pay back a bunch of money. And he already restructured his deal to practically the bare minimium.


nothing like looking at the glass as half empty though, I think that's all he can see. Maybe his hair gets in his eyes and thats why everything looks cloudy to him......

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Priest never had a season with as many rushing yards as LJ has had the past 2 years..........Your absolutely right.

technically true ... but Holmes was a different type of back. A more complete back. Holmes may have gotten a bigger % of his yards catching the ball, but he actually gained MORE yardage than LJ for the more part.


Holmes Total Yardage

2001 - 2169 yrds
2002 - 2287 yrds (14 games)
2003 - 2110 yrds

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2...ture010sy9.jpg


Larry Johnson Total Yardage

2005 - 2093
2006 - 2199

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5382/pictuwu3.jpg

Buns 04-14-2007 05:13 PM

Lets say for shnitzengiggles that Priest were to be ready to play and even show up during camp, do we keep him and Bennett as our backups? Keep four RBs with Ross? Run the Anomaly into the ground with 500 carries when 31 and Bennett both get hip pointers in the same game?

Halfcan 04-14-2007 05:15 PM

PH will only come back to KC to clear out his locker.

Iowanian 04-15-2007 07:51 AM

Its time for him to go, either way. He's 34, injured thrice, and isn't part of any long term sollution or team improvement.

I think he knows he is done, but he's being a dick to keep his money.

Ultra Peanut 04-15-2007 09:21 AM

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T-post Tom 04-15-2007 12:06 PM

"I don't think he owes anyone a quick answer," :drool:


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