Alec Baldwin leaves a message for his 12 year, er, 11 year old "pig" daughter. Enjoy!
 

http://www.tmz.com/

......... just listen.


This guy is a real teddy bear. :shake:

I don't know - they played the clip on the radio this morning and hyped it up so much saying shit like "I will never watch anything he is in again because of this" yada yada yada then they played it and it wasn't a big deal at all.

I mean, who hasn't snapped on their kids at some point or said something they might regret later?

People are making this a bigger deal than it really is.

what if she is a pig?

They played this on 610am this morning when I was leaving for work




If only I would have accepted the role in the movie The Marrying Man...I would have ended up with Kim Basinger and we'd still be filming the 6th installment of 9 1/2 weeks

Who cares ...

Did you listen to it? It seemed to me that maybe HE made a bigger deal out of it that it really was. I really overreacted, I think. Some of what he said was borderline abusive.

Really? You think saying those things, those specific words, are acceptbale and not a big deal? He basically threatened her.

How do you know this wasn't the 20th time his daughter had asked him to call her at that time and didn't answer? There's not really a way to tell if it was an overreaction or not without knowing complete context, but in either case again, I ask, who hasn't snapped and said something they didn't regret in the heat of the moment?

I'm not saying I agree with what he said at all. I'm just saying this is overblown because he's not the only person in the world who has snapped on one of their kids. People in the media and on the radio are treating this situation as if he murdered his own daughter.

He's always struck me as a dick, but then again, I've said much nastier shit than that to people who didn't deserve it. Good thing I'm not famous, I guess.

I can't imagine what these people must go through knowing any mistake, lapse of judgment, or loss of temper is headline fodder. No amount of fame or fortune would be worth it to me.

WHAT THIS GUY SAYS OR DOESN'T SAY TO HIS KID IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.

It's funny because he is such a jackass!

I can see, by your defense of Baldwin, that you must be a jackass too! :)

True, but I'm guessing it was his own family who did him in.

*Pig calls Kim Basinger*

Pig: "Mommy, dad left me a terrible message! He called me a pig and yelled and threatened me!"

Kim: "Keep the message, do not delete it. I'll make him pay and make sure I have custody of you from now on."

*Kim posts message on internet*

fin

I'm not defending Baldwin, I'm simply trying to say that the media is making this a bigger deal than it likely is. Who knows.

I actually thought that I was listening to my own dad when I heard it.

Well, then shame on her. Airing one's dirty laundry like that is pretty pathetic, IMO.

She couldn't air it if he didn't say it. It may be tacky on her part, but he's the guy who called his own 12 year old.........11 year old daughter a PIG. It's one thing to yell at adults. It's another thing to yell at a little girl. There ARE limits. He's getting what he deserves.

Do you have kids?

Again, I'm not saying it's right. Obviously it's wrong. As the child of not-terribly-nice-to-begin-with divorced parents who passionately hated each other, believe me, I understand what this poor kid is going through.

What I'm saying is it shouldn't be front page news on the National Enquirer. And it's still none of our business.

He said put the ****ing coffee down. Coffee's for closers.

Didn't he threaten to move to France....or was this another baldwin bro. ???
Good bye if he does, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

What an A$$.

There's absolutely NO way this crap should be on the internet. You think Baldwin is pathetic for leaving the message? Now the little girl is gonna be called "Pig" for the rest of her life because Mommy is too focused on making Daddy look bad to see the bigger picture. Stupidity all the way around.

You want to know what it takes to call your kid a pig? It takes BRASS BALLS to call your kid a pig.

Judging by the reactions in this thread I thought it was going to be way worse than it actually was. The pig comment was harsh, but the rest of the rant was just someone blowing up on a voice mail. I've done it.

He's a kid hater. Is he calling my child a pig. Does he know the history of the word, the hate that is behind it.

a couple of things......

first, Alec Baldwin is an actor who has zero effect on your life so who gives a shit what he says.

second, this shouldn't be something that any of us should be discussing. its a family matter, and only the family should have any say in weather his was warrented.

and third, hey at least he didn't kick her ass like in the old days.

Yeah! 'Coffee is for closers'.

Its just BS anyway..who cares..I grew up in the 50s and 60s your ass got beat back then ....

I'm sure you are not alone. The question would be did that sort of talk have a negative impact on you? And even if it didn't, are you the exception or the rule for that type of talk directed toward a child.

First off, we should remember that this remark, said in anger, to this child is not an isolated incident. This just happened to be one where a recording was made. Father's don't just get mad one day and start verbally attacking their child.

Personally, I think for a father to call his 12 year old daughter a pig (chances are this has happened more than once) can cause severe damage to her self esteem at a time when she is the most vulnerable.

Think about it, her mother is a beautiful and glamorous sex symbol and movie star. What child wants to follow in THOSE shoes? What is the ratio of kids of stars growing up completely fugged up? Higher than average?

She is also growing up at a time when pressure to be thin is extraordinary on girls and we often see eating disorders beginning to develop around the time of puberty or shortly thereafter. Thus, her father calling her a pig is huge. (NPI) Chances are she's seen her father call her mother that and worse and as such will have internalized some of those remarks as well. Chances are Mr. Baldwin's rage is being diverted to an innocent victim instead of the real target, his Ex-wife.

Like her mother, she may end up choosing guys who are abusive to her simply because that is what she knows. In her eyes, her mother is near perfect (beautiful and famous) and couldn't find a 'nice guy.' Unless she gets help she might end up in the same trap.

I wonder if anyone has a tape of my folks yelling at me? Granted, I deserved it, but it probably seemed harsh at the time.

I wonder if he'll lose his gig on 30 Rock? With enough exposure and public outrage, he could be Imus'ed from NBC.

I told you not to be stupid you moron.

Point is, we probably all did to some level. Sometimes I hear myself saying things to my kids that make me shudder afterwards. But they are tame in comparison to what my parents generation may have unleashed in abit of anger. The difference is now we are aware of what that type of talk on a continuous basis long term can do to the child.

And it's not just the 'self esteem movement' I'm talking about here. It's growing up in a dysfunctional and abusive enviroment. From prior media reports, Baldwin has quite the temper and Basinger is not the model of stability having suffered from anorexia herself.

The kid's white. There won't be any fallout.

I hope to christ you are kidding. No way this will effect his job. It was a personal family matter where no one got hurt and no one should have found out about it.

If the mouth breathing/helmet wearing kids of today can't handle tough talk then we've got real problems coming our way when they grow up.

NO, you don't strap the bomb on that way you stupid white POS, you strap it on this way. Don't embarrass me by ****ing this shit up. You have to blow up people the right way. I didn't bring you into this world to be a **** up. :cuss:

You know, two months ago I would agree with you. But when the parent special interest group backlash hits, it wouldn't surprise me if he does end up paying for this professionally.

I would agree with you 100%. But the father/daughter relationship is very delicate and complicated thing. You want your daughter to be strong and self confident. Few fathers would agree that calling your daughter a pig will accomplish that.

No, he won't lose his job. He'll end up in 'rehab/therapy' for anger issues and his career will take another hit but he won't be Imussed.

Precisely! How the fugg did the media get a hold of this voice mail anyways? Did the daughter record it and send it to NBC? Now that should piss him off even further.

Seriously though, he's been through a bitter, bitter custody and divorce battle with his ex and his daughter. It's been going on for quite some time. From what I understand, he called her several times that morning but she didn't pick up. This evidently infuriated him further which coincidentally made him leave this sort of verbal tirade on her voice mail.

The fact of the matter is- this is a private issue and I am disappointed in the media for even posting it. The media lately have been nothing but vultures and have been displaying an awful lack of civility.

Had Alec Baldwin been a conservative activist instead of a liberal one, the story would be "Actor and conservative activist....." blah blah blah.

How is that relevant?

I hate this country more and more every day. We are going to go from a country so strong that people were scared to say anything about us, to a country that people laugh at because we are a bunch of pussies who can't take it.

Yeah, seems reasonable to me. Of course you don't hear people asking how this message got into the hands of the media, do you? Could it be that the little bitch called up some media schlub in order to screw her father?

Spoken like an opinionated jackass with no kids.

A 12 yr-old wouldn't know how to do so....It was Baldwin's ex-wife that sent it to the media.

Begun, the C*nt Wars have.

I'll expect Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to get on this, ASAP. :rolleyes:

I don't think you'd want this to get out if you have a TV series on a major network and the network is presently deciding whether your series was cancelled or renewed.

I'm looking forward to it. When I'm 75 years old I'm going to go on a f**king crime spree and rob all these f**kers at cane point. Even the cops will be too busy wearing women's jeans and brushing out their hair to stop me.

Dude obviously has some anger management issues. He can forget about custody. Hell, his visitations will probably be supervised. Dumbass.

Joined the Dark Side memyselfI has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are her ways now

I agree with Denise on this one guys. This is just the tip of the iceberg and no little girl deserves to be verbally beat down like that. He's an adult and she is a child and the abusive tone and language he used is extremely hurtful. Maybe she is a brat who doesn't return his calls but leaving that diatribe of abuse in a message is just pathetic.

I could care less what Alec Baldwin thinks and I don't like the idea of the media beating this to death (but they will) but this is a terrible family dynamic they've got going on and if these two parents don't get it together it's going to hurt their kid just like it hurts all kids who are verbally abused by those close to them.

LOL My dad left me a message like that once back when I was in HS.

I thought it was so funny that I recorded the msg on my old computer. I wish I still had it so I could share it with you guys.

God damn it was so funny. He just went bizzerk!!

Yeah, but look how f'd up you are. You post on chiefs planet and have two guys fooking boxes as your avatar plus you live in Missery. ROFL

ROFL

ROFL

sorry, Funny response. Not agreeing that you are f'd up, CoMo. Just had to chuckle.

That was a fun game.

I like my avatar.

I might add that Baldwin has more than anger-management issues -- he has intelligence-management issues, too. In the middle of an never-ending custody battle, leaving evidence like that is incredibly stupid...

Even if it wasn't released publicly, a judge hears that....and it's ballgame.

Sounds like it couldn't happen to a nicer guy...didn't he beat Kim Bassinger when they were married?

I'm just messing with you.

This really pisses me off! NOBODY SHOULD BE REFERRED TO AS A PIG! Pigs are wonderfull loving animals that when you chop them up into little pieces taste really good.

Guy is gonna lose the battle on this. Bad evidence against him.

yeah from what I recall he did beat Bassinger.

The French deserve him. send him packin'

Is that what messed your head up?

Only another liberal could see this as a perfectly acceptable way to talk to their 11 year old daughter.

Compassionate bleeding hearts my ass.

What Mr. Baldwin said to his daughter is weak compared to what my father - a former Drill Sargeant - said to me while I was growing up, and I've turned out just great! :p

Seriously though... :rolleyes:

I think it's friggin' hilarious that people care so much about such inconsequential bullshit, especially considering recent events in the world that deem infinitely more attention. :shake:

That's pretty funny.

I understand the "tough love" arguments. And, it's clear that this was and is a private matter. Nevertheless, I don't think I'll be buying Alec's book on "Using Your Child's Cell Phone To Build Their Self Esteem" anytime soon.

FAX

Why would I want to listen to a message that Alec Baldwin, or for that matter anyone at all, left his daughter?

Really, I don't get it......is it newsworthy? Entertaining? Enlightening? What exactly is the point?

This is an excellent point.

It doesn't excuse his judgement though.

THis is another case of someone thinking we are still in the answering machine age, instead of the digital recorder/upload/download/utube age.

Lesson to everyone, never ever leave a message on a machine without thinking the whole world might have it available to them.

For that matter, never post stupid chit on a BB either.

She should set that up as her greeting for the next time daddy calls.

And only a conservative would think it necessary to involve themselves in someone else's private life.

Is the guy an ass? Yep
Does it involve you? Nope

Yeah!! Back in the day, we'd have Alec upside down with a fork in his azz!!

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