What will our record be and will LJ holdout?
 

I get a strange feeling he will not be around when summer camp kicks off. I hope the chiefs find a team who will pay him and give us some picks for next years draft. We are rebuilding and the whole team looks to be gutted for next year. Defense seems pretty young (only thing I look for improvement in next year). Offense seems to be in shambles with a unproven QB, and no O-line. I don't see us winning many games in the next year. So why keep LJ. We will get draft picks and probably end up picking in the 10th spot or higher. Lets go 4-12 and pick up a 1st and 4th for LJ.


Brennan for the next QB of chiefs and two good O-linemen in 2008. Realistically how many wins will we have next year. TinkyWinky

LJ won't hold out.

You're such a knob.

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God, if ONLY we could go 4-12. That would be SO AWESOME!

No we will be stuck around 7-9 to 9-7 and everyone will be sucking on Carl and Herm for backing in the Playoffs and getting run like little Bitches agian...

Then we get a whole offseason of Herm is Better than DV crap....

This board is so predictable....

besides, Carl will do everything in his power to be around .500 and Arrowhead full every home game...

Butts in the seats baby, butts in the seats....

You're such a drunk.

Wouldnt surprise me if he does. He has all the bargaining power in the world.

Didn't Knob used to be Rob at one time?

And I say we go 6-10 next year. I'm always firmly in the 10-6 to 12-4 camp, but not this year.

Boy if it is anybody in the history of the NFL have more leverage and power it is LJ right now..

He has KC by the nuts and is squeezing them... He knows MR Buttsex Football is going to run his dick in the dirt agian....

So you go LJ, bend Carl and the Chiefs over and hammer them all the way to the bank!

Agreed.....I do think the D will continue to improve and if a team plays good D then they are in pretty much every game.


Ill go ahead and predict 10-6 or 11-5. I also think the demise of the O-line is exaggerated slightly. Sure, its not as good as it was, but they should still be a decent unit. Plus, if LJ gets his usual 1700 yards and 20 TD's, that will help keep us in alot of games obviously....

Now, winning a playoff game, thats another story....

Yea 10-6 probably.. the younger D should keep us close and maybe the O can score enough to win ....

LJ probably will play..but they better give him some money or he won't sign again ....

13-3 and lose to Indy in the playoffs again. Deja vu.

7-9 with some breaks 6-10 otherwise.

Probably not

16-1

LJ's going to hold out because he's two miles away from the Chiefs on contract negotiations.

Plus, I'm predicting 9-7, missing the playoffs.

As I pointed out in my column, I think we'll be around 10-6, but due to the ease of our schedule we'll have a better record than the team we actually are.

Because of this we'll endure another horrible first-round playoff loss, Herm will be villified on Chiefsplanet for another offseason and everyone will clamor for the Chiefs to trade LJ.

This is a 6-10 team. It would be in the best long-term interests of the franchise to trade LJ, but Carl doesn't think long term, and neither do most Chiefs fans. That's why we're stuck in purgatory.

I see us losing to Sandy eggo 2x, Denver 2x, and dare I say faiders could contend for 2x also. There is six tough games both away and home Put in these next couple of reasons and I see a couple more games to be lost.



1-Mike Solari is calling plays.
2-O-line is decimated.
3-QB is a unknown.
4-LJ wants more money, and Carl is a ballbuster as we all know.
5-Division will beat the crap out of us, even if were an okay team.
6-No J. allen for first of season
7-New kicker-usually good for one game losing miss.

Chiefs are in big doodoo.

This season is done before it even starts. Chiefs will begin to kick azz in 2 to 3 more years, granted drafting goes their way. Herm seems to be a good evaluator of talent in draft so far. Better then Dick V. ever was.

You're completely delusional.

Wanna bet?

What are your stakes?

Avatar and title until the draft. You lose as soon as the Chiefs win a 7th game.

or else maybe carl and herm want to keep their steller draft pick LJ because they believe prime time is in 2 years and wants him to be part of the picture and not trade him off and end up with an average back.

Carl Weathers is non-negotiable. But I will wager you sig and title privileges

My sig is already tied up with Logical.

How about my avatar against your sig?

OK however, there should be some fairness here. 6 or fewer, I win, 7 is a push, 8 or more you win.

Thoughts?

I'll agree to that.

LJ will have no knees after this year! Mark it down, Im calling it now.

Go Chiefs I'll bet too if you want. Should be fun. If I win You and Skip Towne must meet at phobia's get togethers and take a picture together so I can put it in my avatar. You name your terms if interested.

Um, no.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL :)

Arrowhead alone gives this team 8 wins on the season.

Whoever takes that bet's stupid.

Alright.

I hope you easily win, but I fear that I will.

Yeah, we beat the fuck out of Baltimore and Cincy at home last year :rolleyes:

Maybe I am closed minded but if they hold out, fine the shit outta them and see their value next year.

Same goes for TG.

I will take that bet if GC has tied up his bets!

12-4, no holdout and Croyle will have a season reminiscent of Roethlisberger '04.

I will also take this bet because skip and me do not agree as well.

Loser pays cost to Phobias.

Holy hell! Since when did you become the optimist?




Oh wait, this is your sarcastic side, isn't it?

LOL

You guys should know, Skip has never appeared at a planet function and never will. He is the epitome of a keyboard tough guy.

I'm serving the interest of Balance.

Stop being stupid, it makes your wife's hips look fat.

Even if KC "just" goes 6-2 at home this year, you're banking on them going 0-8 on the road.

I think you've gone delusional.

Maybe I'm utilizing traditional "online genious" prediction algorithms. Predict something that most people will say is crazy. If you're right, then you say "see how smart I am!" If you're wrong, then you say "I wasn't serious."

Uh-huh.

BRILLIANT!

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I figure you'll be like 1-15 with an LJ holdout....

And we'd still be 3rd in the division, ahead of you guys.

:D

Sam Baker, here we come!

Faiders can not keep us out for long!

the best thing, long term, would be to finish 6-10 and have a top 10 pick in every round next year...one more good draft and we are rebuilt and ready to roll (assuming Croyle pans out, of course)

the worst thing would be to finish 8-8,9-7, 10-6....unless we make a run in the playoffs...losing in the first round again would serve nothing

I don't think people are prepared for the reality of breaking in a rookie QB, Croyle is going to struggle...I'm thrilled we're starting him, if we got a top 10 LT next year then we could be bad ass pronto

It's not like only ten teams get to draft, people.

As long as you draft well, it doesn't matter where you are on the charts.

Tiebreaker?

That was the idea.

Heh GoChiefs

If LJ holds out do I win our bet by default? :p

you can't draft Calvin Johnson if you're picking 18th....and you don't get Joe Thomas picking 25th, you get Joe Staley...etc

the higher you pick the more options you have and, imho, one draft with high picks would quickly finish our rebuild...

It's an incredibly tough venue. You may be correct. This season will definitely test Arrowhead's mojo.

Arrowhead's mojo has been tested for the last decade. This team hasn't fielded a solid defense since 1997.

That's no lie.

For my part I hope your team is as competitive as Lucifer himself. No one wants to play the kind of teams Oakland has fielded recently. Pushovers don't get anyone ready for the playoffs.

Who got whom ready for the playoffs last year? :hmmm:

I will give you props once but not after TC.

You must not have been born in denver. Too many thoughts for them.


:)

If memory serves, the 49ers got y'all ready for the playoffs.

I haven't been shy about admitting the Broncos' failure and your success last year. I've even corrected Broncos posters who accused the Chiefs of "backing into the playoffs."

Your team won the game it had to win. My team lost the game that would have made the Chiefs' win meaningless.

Credit where credit is due. The Chiefs earned their spot. The Broncos blew theirs.

Eh. As usual, we blew it once we got there anyway.

I grew up in Cleveland, but the fine citizens of that city denied Art Modell a new stadium. He moved my Browns to Baltimore and promptly won a Super Bowl with them. I enjoyed that, even though most Browns' fans were angry.

During the absence of my own team I couldn't give up the NFL, so I tried to become a Pittsburgh fan. That attempt was doomed to failure.

Since I'd been living in Denver for a while, I tried following the Broncos, and I ended up being okay with that. I worked for one of the local papers once upon a time, and I had gotten to go to the games with a sideline pass to do my thing.

Somewhere along the way the city of Cleveland tucked its tail between its legs and decided to build a new stadium (which was all Modell wanted in the first place). They got an expansion team that won the right to call themselves the Cleveland Browns, but there was no continuity in the players, the coaches, or even the front office.

My Browns wear purple and black now, and Matt Stover is the last holdout from the orange and "seal" days.

I love the game. I follow a team. But my loyalty to any particular team runs about as deep as Art Modell's loyalty to the Cleveland fan base.

Hey, it's a business.

We got an elite college WR and completed our DL on our first day.

On our second day, we landed the best kicker in the draft and an all-purpose RB.

What more do you want?

If you draft well, it doesn't matter where you are in the order.

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You haven't been here very long.

They tried to trade LJ.

Nobody wants his price tag.

ROFL Knob n00b.

More predictions?


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I don't think he will hold out, but no.

NOT Likely... IF anyone has done their homework, they would know that MR Buttsex Football has never coached a team to a record better than 10-6...

So at best the Chiefs will go 10-6...... But I have a feeling MR Buttsex Football will pull a rabbit out and take the Chiefs to a season stomping record of 6-10....

You have to score points to win in the NFL....

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I'm of the opinion that Chad Pennington was holding Herm back. I'm also of the opinion that his New York Jet teams weren't talented enough to do better. He certainly didn't have players the caliber of LJ or Gonzo.

Opinion or fact?

Everyone has their opinions....

Most people believe that Herms approach to the game, lack of in-game management, timeouts and just overall fear of taking a chance during the games are what has held Herm back.

Herm's only downfall is "Fear"... He is a chicken sh*t coach on the sidelines....

He had Curtis Martin and many other players at the caliber of LJ, maybe not Gonzo, but Plenty of LJ's......

LJ needs to block for once...

Is there anything you have seen that leads you to believe Brody will ever be as good as Pennington? I've always believed Pennington to be a slightly above average QB when healthy. I have seen almost nothing out of BC but in looking at the chiefs history of drafting QB's "average" would make him the best QB the chiefs have EVER drafted.

FWIW Nothing would make me happier than for Brody to be the next Brady.

For one thing, Brodie has an ARM. Pennington might have the weakest arm in the NFL among starting quarterbacks.

My season predictions:

Chargers 12-4 -- win division, first round bye
Broncos 10-6 -- playoffs, win tie-breaker with the better divisional record
Chiefs 10-6 -- playoffs, lose tie-breaker
Raiders 5-11 -- top 10 pick in 2008