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Ralphy Boy 07-08-2007 10:50 AM

Dodge City
 
Anyone been there? Much of a tourist draw?

Buehler445 07-08-2007 10:52 AM

I've been there. I'm from north of there aways. There isn't much of a tourist draw. They have Boot Hill, which is kinda neat, but realistically isn't much of a tourist draw. They also have the Dodge City Days rodeo coming up, which might bring in some good tourism, but I can't tell you, I was always busy in the field.

Are you moving there or something?

chiefsfan987 07-08-2007 10:52 AM

I've never been but wouldn't mind going one of these days just to say I have. I doubt there's much to do there.

Bugeater 07-08-2007 10:58 AM

Just don't piss off the bartender, he's an ornery cuss.

Rooster 07-08-2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater
Just don't piss off the bartender, he's an ornery cuss.

ROFL ROFL

HonestChieffan 07-08-2007 11:30 AM

Can always drive to Dighton for comparison

Hows your Spanish

KCFalcon59 07-08-2007 11:30 AM

I am watching that now. Christie Brinkley is taking off her clothes and jumping into the pool right now.

pr_capone 07-08-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy
Anyone been there? Much of a tourist draw?

Like Mexicans?

Rooster 07-08-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy
Anyone been there? Much of a tourist draw?

It can smell very bad at times. Many cows = many cow pies.

Buehler445 07-08-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
Can always drive to Dighton for comparison

Hows your Spanish


ROFL

Buehler445 07-08-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster
It can smell very bad at times. Many cows = many cow pies.

It isn't the cow poop that smells the worst, there aren't as many feedlots in Ford County as some of the other counties out there. The thing that makes it stink the most is the packing plants when they burn the blood. It's awesome.

BigVE 07-08-2007 06:54 PM

CLiff notes version in agreement with most of the previous posts: Boot Hill (1 hrs worth of interest), stinky, mucho mexicanos. NOt much else to see or do. Oh, there is a paved circle track for car-racing that does bring quite a few out of towners to the area most weekends throughout the summer.

BigMeatballDave 07-08-2007 07:53 PM

I thought everyone wants to get the hell outta Dodge?

Buehler445 07-08-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
I thought everyone wants to get the hell outta Dodge?

That funny. The new slogan is get the heck INTO Dodge... Let me tell you it is really effective.

Demonpenz 07-08-2007 07:56 PM

the city is like a million other cities you would think they would play off their old west horse shit but they don't exept for a giant bull statue

Brock 07-08-2007 08:00 PM

It is literally one of the worst places on Earth. It's basically the Sudan with jobs.

Buehler445 07-08-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
It is literally one of the worst places on Earth. It's basically the Sudan with jobs.

Wrong. There are worse cities in Western Kansas. And don't even bring up Eastern Colorado.

Brock 07-08-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445
Wrong. There are worse cities in Western Kansas. And don't even bring up Eastern Colorado.


So it's better than Garden City, maybe. My point stands.

Buehler445 07-08-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
So it's better than Garden City, maybe. My point stands.

Gove. Utica. Oakley. Liberal. I could go on for hours. I'm not detracting from the fact that it is bad. It is aweful. Particularly if you are not accustomed to the ethnicity that white collar labor brings.

Brock 07-08-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445
Gove. Utica. Oakley. Liberal.

I've been to Liberal. Truly a house of horrors.

Buehler445 07-08-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
I've been to Liberal. Truly a house of horrors.

Oh yes. It is a good time.

Pitt Gorilla 07-08-2007 08:15 PM

I wouldn't go unless I had to.

thumper118 07-08-2007 09:15 PM

I live in Hays however my sales territory flows through southwest Kansas. Dodge City and Liberal are two towns that I would not go to unless I was picking up a check. They are both run down and dirty.

PastorMikH 07-09-2007 08:49 AM

If you are passing through anyway and need a place to stop and stretch your legs, Boot Hill isn't bad. If you are planning to spend a week in Dodge, DON'T!

Inlaws live in Liberal, nothing to see there either - except maybe the wizard of oz museum. Again, if you are passing through it might be worth stopping at but I wouldn't plan a week there.

Garden City has a decent free zoo and the world's largest free swimming pool - but the swimming pool needs to be visited early in the season because the little kids there don't get out of the water to go to the bathroom.



All in all, if you EVER feel the need to ask if any town in western Kansas is worth a vacation to, the answer is always NO. If you want to know if there is anything to see there, there's just enough to give a short diversion to a heck of a boring drive to someplace fun, but that's about it.

Frazod 07-09-2007 09:12 AM

There's only one way to travel through western Kansas - at the highest rate of speed possible, on the way from someplace else to someplace else. :thumb:

Redrum_69 07-09-2007 09:14 AM

Channel the spirit of Wyatt Earp and ask him about Dodge City

Buehler445 07-09-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod
There's only one way to travel through western Kansas - at the highest rate of speed possible, on the way from someplace else to someplace else. :thumb:

Except through Ness County. The (one) cop there is a penis.

Redrum_69 07-09-2007 12:17 PM

Dodge City

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangster...ws/earp/7.html

"Dodge boomed with a roar that split the nation’s ears

and still echoes in her memory."

-- Stuart N. Lake, author

If Wyatt had learned one thing about marshaling, it was: Lay down the law immediately.

His approach worked in Wichita and he planned to have it work in Dodge City. He didn’t ride innocent-eyed into Dodge...he knew it hadn’t earned the title "The Fabulous Babylon" for nothing. Plunked at the end of the Jones-Plummer Trail, it was, in all respects, the last barrel-fall. In July, cattlemen drove their herds there, got rich overnight, spent it, then tried to get rich again before they returned to Texas and New Mexico. Some tried their luck on faro, on keno, on chuck-a-luck; some on robbery and assorted larceny. Front Street’s plank boards sagged under the weight of pickpockets, prostitutes, con artists, inebriates, tramps, maligners and killers. During cattle season, women and children avoided its back streets. Shopkeepers feared for their lives. If a supply wagon got stuck in the muddy streets after dark, the teamster would often find his cargo hijacked by bullies. Long into the night the walls of the Alhambra and Long Branch saloons rattled with rough words and rough deeds; cold-blooded murder was part of their fare.

In short, Dodge City didn’t seem to want law and order; both seemed unnecessary commodities. And now that the cattlemen had come with their 200,000 heads of cattle, their throats dry, their libidos tingling and their handguns loaded, Marshal Larry Deger felt overwhelmed. He was the last of a long line of officers who had been run out of town or shot in the back. He was overjoyed when Wyatt appeared, for Wyatt wasted no time in "laying down the law".

Sensing Dodge a big job, his first step was to hire four assistant deputies who could be relied on to stand up to Dodge’s worst. These men were Bat Masterson, his old buffalo hunting friend turned lawman; Charlie Basset; Bill Tilghman; and Neal Brown. He also, much to the chagrin of many gun-toters, initiated a "Deadline" north of the railroad yards on Front Street to keep the commercial part of the city quiet; anyone carrying a gun past that mark would be jailed upon sight. These rules were in effect around the clock. Dodge City’s jail cells brimmed.


As in Wichita, the bad men grumbled at Wyatt’s appointment. Much worse to them was the fact that Wyatt began investing in Dodge property, which indicated his intended longevity. One of their first reactions, therefore, was to "put up a pot" to pay a professional killer to slay the mighty Wyatt Earp. Their choice was ingenious -- the infamous Clay Allison from Las Animas, N.M. Allison was a good-looking 26-year-old devilishly clever quick-trigger who bore a lethal hatred for the law. He recently had been tried for the murder of Las Animas’ marshal, but despite many witnesses he was found innocent by an obviously threatened jury. If there was a demon designed for the job of killing Wyatt, Allison was it.

However astute, his stay in Dodge proved brief and unsuccessful. Wyatt had known of the contract on him and when Allison arrived in town, Earp was there to meet him. They met outside the Long Branch Saloon and, while the cowboys watched, the two notables had a long sober discussion. Whatever words were exchanged are still a mystery, but that same afternoon Allison rode out of town to never return. Wyatt’s reputation boomed.

Dodge City attracted more than just villains. It also attracted journalists come to write not so much about the town as about Wyatt Earp. Dime novel writer Ned Buntline, for one, found Wyatt great pulp material. In gratitude, he presented Wyatt and his deputies with a specially made Colt .45; its barrel was four inches longer than the standard, it had an attachable rifle stock for shoulder aiming and came in its own finely tooled holster. Of this Buntline Special, Wyatt said, "Mine was my favorite over any other gun. I carried it at my right hip throughout my career."

Sometimes traveling theatrical repertoires rolled into town. An amusing incident took place one night when Wyatt was awakened to gunfire in the streets. Outside, he found a shaken comedian, Eddie Foy, huddled in an alley while fellow actor Charles Chapin was taking pot shots at Foy for stealing his girl. Wyatt easily disarmed the drunken thespian and sent the players home to "sleep it off".

His off-duty hours were spent chiefly at the Alhambra Saloon where he and Bat Masterson operated a respectable faro game. They enjoyed it and found faro a pleasant pastime -- as long as it was kept respectable. Both Wyatt and Bat earned extra income and the Alhambra mutually benefited because the lawmen’s presence kept the troublemakers and tinhorns out. As the manager of the most popular game in town, Wyatt befriended many of the sporting politicos and businessmen.

While these men greatly appreciated the huge changes Wyatt had effected in the community -- the streets were much safer -- they expressed their concerns that many of the criminals still roamed the streets freely or, if they were arrested, were out on leniency the following day to cause more havoc. A part of the problem was Wyatt’s superior, Larry Dregnan, who had the authority but not the gumption to enact tighter reform movements.

A deal was cut. When the Alhambra’s proprietor James H. "Dog" Kelley decided to run for mayor in 1877, he promised to officially name Wyatt the new town marshal. When the results were in and Kelley indeed won, Wyatt took control. He plagued the courts for more severe sentencing, barred certain individuals from town, added his brother Morgan as deputy (Morgan had seen action in other towns), and organized a "citizens’ committee" of reformers to help watchdog the streets.
It was during his Dodge City days that, around 1877, Wyatt met Celia Anne Blaylock, whom he affectionately called "Mattie". She was probably a saloon girl. Not much is known about her, but it appears she may have come from Fort Scott, Kansas. Seemingly, they never married, but kept company as husband and wife under the strict Victorian moral code. At first, the couple was happy, but Mattie’s deepening dependency on laudanum -- acquired because of an illness -- would soon put a strain on their relationship. They would remain together over the next three years and-a-half years.

Redrum_69 07-09-2007 12:20 PM

If you want to go somewhere thats really nice...go to DEADWOOD S.D.

http://adamsmuseumandhouse.org/characters_people.html


Theres so much to do around Deadwood...it will keep you busy for at least a week.


Heck..its not even too far from here and easy to get to.

HemiEd 07-09-2007 01:31 PM

I think you can spend an afternoon there, then that is about it.

It was pretty nice at one time, when it was fresh, but last time I went it was dated and stale.

Skip Towne 07-09-2007 01:43 PM

I've heard Goodland is a nice place to visit.

REDHOTGTO 07-09-2007 01:53 PM

i was there once when i was 10 at boot hill when it caught fire ! i was in the shitter and smoke started to come in around the bottom of the door !!! :deevee: dad was going nuts trying to get in there to me, i really didnt even know what was goin on, too busy ya know!! ROFL
i got out fine and have only been back once 3 yrs ago, its a craphole now, learn mexican, you'll need it

HemiEd 07-09-2007 01:55 PM

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If you go through La Crosse, you can visit the "barbed wire museum" in the morning, then do Boot Hill in the afternoon. [/hemied-tourguide]

HemiEd 07-09-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
I've heard Goodland is a nice place to visit.

I used to drive 100 miles out of my way to eat at Ray's in Goodland. I would do it again. :drool:

Eleazar 07-09-2007 01:59 PM

I agree with fraz. The best way to travel Kansas is as you sleep and someone else drives toward the nearest border as fast as possible.

ChiTown 07-09-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper118
I live in Hays however my sales territory flows through southwest Kansas. Dodge City and Liberal are two towns that I would not go to unless I was picking up a check. They are both run down and dirty.

and Dodge smells like a load of ass with all the cattle. I hate that fuggin place.

Monty 07-09-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
I used to drive 100 miles out of my way to eat at Ray's in Goodland. I would do it again. :drool:

Yeah, that place is good. Ralph & Ester's had a killer burger back in the day too. Decker's had a good pork tenderloin as well.

HemiEd 07-09-2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Monty
Yeah, that place is good. Ralph & Ester's had a killer burger back in the day too. Decker's had a good pork tenderloin as well.

I am not familiar with either of those two, will make a note of it. Ray's had home made bread, real mashed potatoes, fresh veggies and corn fed beef. They were continually adding on to the place when I was regularly traveling out there.

RJ 07-09-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater
Just don't piss off the bartender, he's an ornery cuss.



And don't shoot the piano player.

Monty 07-10-2007 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
I am not familiar with either of those two, will make a note of it. Ray's had home made bread, real mashed potatoes, fresh veggies and corn fed beef. They were continually adding on to the place when I was regularly traveling out there.

You can't look 'em up...they're both gone now. These places were there in the early 80's when I went to High School in Goodland. I only know of Ray's Cafe by accident when I spent an afternoon there a couple of years ago.

KC Jones 07-10-2007 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ
And don't shoot the piano player.

So I grabbed the piano player and I punched him in the face
The piano player's out the music stopped
His boy had beef and he got dropped
Mike D. grabbed the money M.C.A. snatched the gold
I grabbed two girlies and a beer that's cold.

:D

My experience with Western Kansas is that there are quite a few places to stop for an hour or so and stretch your legs, but nothing you'd really want to plan on for a vacation. Last weekend I visited an awesome 'old west' tourist attraction in Fairplay, CO.

South Park City


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