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Tatertot13 07-25-2007 06:41 AM

Man vs. Wild = Fake
 
This doesn't really surprise me. I've always thought this show didn't seem as hard core as Survivorman.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242007...don_kaplan.htm

July 24, 2007 -- Discovery Channel he-man Bear Grylls, the host of the survival-skills show "Man vs. Wild," is barely the man he seems to be on TV.

On the program, Grylls appears to camp out in quickly-built shelters deep in the wilderness while battling hypothermia and dehydration. But when the cameras stop rolling, Grylls has actually moved to luxurious hotels.

In the last two seasons, he and producers have contrived other scenes to make it appear as if Grylls is more skilled than he really is, a consultant for the show told The Times of London.

"If you really believe everything happens the way it is shown on TV, you are being a little bit naive," said Mark Weinert, an Oregon-based survival consultant, who said producers hired him as an adviser for the show.

Discovery Channel officials declined to comment, but in the U.K., where the show airs with the title "Born Survivor," stunned network officials at Channel 4 said they are conducting an internal investigation.

"Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the 'Man vs. Wild' show in some episodes were not natural to the environment, and that for health and safety concerns the crew and host received some survival assistance while in the field," a spokeswoman for the network said.

"Moving forward the program will be 100 percent transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained up-front to our viewers. In addition, shows that are to be repeated will be edited appropriately."

According to Weinert, while filming in California's Sierra Nevada mountains - an episode in which Grylls, 33, is seen biting off the head of a snake for breakfast - Grylls actually spent some nights with the show's crew in a lodge outfitted with television, stone fireplaces, hot tubs and Internet access.

The Pines Resort at Bass Lake is advertised as "a cozy getaway for families" and is a luxurious hotel with its own spa on a lake.

In another instance, where Grylls was supposed to be surviving on a desert island, he was actually in Hawaii and spent nights at a motel, Weinert said.

The same episode had Grylls building a Polynesian-style raft using only materials around him, including bamboo, hibiscus twine and palm leaves for a sail. Weinert said he actually led a team of builders to construct the raft.

It was then taken apart so that Grylls could be shown building it on camera.

In another episode, viewers watched as Grylls tried to coax what seemed like a wild mustang into a lasso in the Sierra Nevada.

"I'm in luck," he told viewers, apparently coming across four wild horses grazing in a meadow. "A chance to use an old Native American mode of transport comes my way. This is one of the few places in the whole of the U.S. where horses still roam wild."

In fact, Weinert said, the horses were not wild but were brought in by trailer.

Eleazar 07-25-2007 06:43 AM

That sucks. Kind of liked that show.

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 06:48 AM

I hear that the same reporters plan a breaking story on Herm Edwards. "Head Coach" seems to be an overclaim and its said he is catually controlled by aliens.

This will shatter the dreams of HermFan everywhere.

kepp 07-25-2007 06:50 AM

No surprise there. I watched the show with the "wild" horses they talked about and it was obvious they weren't wild. My family had some horses in my youth and even they (tamed) would kick your butt sometimes when you tried to get them in a bridle/saddle. If those would have been wild horses: 1) he wouldn't have gotten within 50 yards of them and, 2) if he did, he would have been laying on the ground with a dislocated head.

I do like the show though.

Silock 07-25-2007 06:52 AM

Anyone with half a brain already knew this. Let's see... one episode, he's floating down a river with "only his backpack" as a floatation device. Except for under his clothes, you can clearly see his float vest. Whoops. In another, he says "Well, looks like I have to eat these maggots." Except, they were mealworms, not maggots. Whoops. He crosses a freezing river, soaking him to the bone. In the next shot, his clothes are completely dry. Whoops. His parachute gets tangled in a tree. He says that he has to jump down about 20 feet. Is that shown on camera? Nope. Just a cut shot to him landing, which is clearly NOT a 20 foot drop landing, and he rolls on the ground, panting and in pain. Except, he's not. Whoops.

Survivorman, as a show, is more boring, but it's way more informative. Man vs. Wild is better to watch, but you'd have to be a complete idiot to do some of the things that Bear does in an actual survival situation. Everything Les does, though, you could actually do and not put yourself in any more harm.

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 06:54 AM

Im waiting for the Aussie show "Sluts in the Outback". Till then Im not emotionally attached to shows like M vs W

JimNasium 07-25-2007 06:56 AM

Just the fact that he has a camera man with him made me believe that it was not at portrayed.

JBucc 07-25-2007 06:58 AM

Meh, Man vs. Wild is pure entertainment. If you did 90 percent of the shit he does on that show you'd kill yourself instead of "survive". Climbing down an almost vertical waterfall, climbing up a 60 foot tree with your shoelaces, etc. Anyway, while the settings and scenarios may be fake, most the stuff he does on there is real. And most of it is crazy and that's all that really matters. I do like Survivorman though. There's a new season coming up shortly.

chagrin 07-25-2007 07:00 AM

Is this the one where the guy is supposed to be a former French Legionnaire?

The announcer guy sounds like he ahs a hard on for the guy "his name is bear, and he's coming"

trndobrd 07-25-2007 07:01 AM

Watch his shoes. In several episodes he is wearing boots then, when he has to do some rock climing, has climbing shoes on his feet.


edit: In all fairness, some people, most notably my wife, would have at least two pair of shoes in any situation.

DJay23 07-25-2007 07:04 AM

It's a TV show. If you are offended by this then you are an idiot.

FAX 07-25-2007 07:06 AM

Watch his hands. One moment he's supposed to be eating Arum tubors wrenched from the ground and the next, he's sampling a cinnamon raspberry croissant.

FAX

the Talking Can 07-25-2007 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
Watch his hands. One moment he's supposed to be eating Arum tubors wrenched from the ground and the next, he's sampling a cinnamon raspberry croissant.

FAX


ROFL

trndobrd 07-25-2007 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
he's sampling a cinnamon raspberry croissant.

FAX


Yeech. Whatever it takes to survive, I suppose.

kepp 07-25-2007 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
Watch his hands. One moment he's supposed to be eating Arum tubors wrenched from the ground and the next, he's sampling a cinnamon raspberry croissant.

FAX

So that's why I heard, "Bear! Put down the chianti!", from the background once.

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 07:18 AM

People do not have names like "Bear".

trndobrd 07-25-2007 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
People do not have names like "Bear".


"Bare" ?

stevieray 07-25-2007 07:23 AM

There is only one Steve.

wilas101 07-25-2007 07:24 AM

I noticed the other day that when he was going down the waterfall in one shot he had a harness on then it was gone when he came out of the water.

But I've expected nothing less since day one. He does do some funny shit sometimes though.... Throwing the stick and killing the rabbit for instance. Real or not that still makes me chuckle.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-25-2007 07:25 AM

I've heard Mr. Ed didn't really talk either.

Silock 07-25-2007 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me
I've heard Mr. Ed didn't really talk either.

Now that's just crazy talk, Wi-i-i-i-i-ilbur.

trndobrd 07-25-2007 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me
I've heard Mr. Ed didn't really talk either.


WTF?

Planetman 07-25-2007 07:29 AM

While this is probably true, I still can't get the image of this guy squeezing the liquid out of fresh elephant poop so he could have something to drink. :Lin:

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 07:30 AM

Mr Ed never squeezed an elephant turd for a drink. That was preposterous.

Planetman 07-25-2007 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
Mr Ed never squeezed an elephant turd for a drink. That was preposterous.

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/5470.jpg

ChiTown 07-25-2007 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
Watch his hands. One moment he's supposed to be eating Arum tubors wrenched from the ground and the next, he's sampling a cinnamon raspberry croissant.

FAX

LMFAO.
:clap:

Kraut 07-25-2007 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium
Just the fact that he has a camera man with him made me believe that it was not at portrayed.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I do like this show, oh well.....

DMAC 07-25-2007 08:40 AM

LMAO My wife thinks he is so awesome. I just printed out the article to show her tonight.

It is so fun to take away her fantasies.

FAX 07-25-2007 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC
LMAO My wife thinks he is so awesome. I just printed out the article to show her tonight.

It is so fun to take away her fantasies.

Hmmm. You need to play this right, Mr. DMAC.

First off, watch the programs and point out that he's doing things incorrectly or that are not possible.

Second off, wait for her to argue with you. Don't argue back, just calmly repeat your position.

Third off, keep this up for several episodes.

Fourth off, show her the article.

You will achieve great status with your wife as she realizes that you are a man of both great wisdom and woodland skill. Your marriage will improve and you will likely get fifth off.

FAX THE RELATIONSHIP COUNSELOR

DMAC 07-25-2007 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX
you will likely get fifth off.

Nice...I like fifth off.

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 09:12 AM

imagine saying fifthoff if you had a lisp

Splat420 07-25-2007 09:16 AM

Survivorman is much better the guy is out there by his self if something goes wrong he is SOL.

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 09:20 AM

himself or his self?

If hes alone, how did he get there?

DMAC 07-25-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
If hes alone, how did he get there?

That is the most stupid question I think I have ever heard.

HonestChieffan 07-25-2007 09:29 AM

It has a hidden meaning. You didn't get it.

DMAC 07-25-2007 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
It has a hidden meaning. You didn't get it.

Sure buddy. :thumb:

cadmonkey 07-25-2007 09:50 AM

I always assumed there was a bit of non truth behind this show.

I knew there was something a little fishy, like how they never actually show him meet the people that he “finds” to rescue him. I always assumed it was just part of his crew they stuck out there to make it seem like he stumbled on people.

I bet a he gets picked up by a helicopter, heads to a hotel, gets laid, eats a steak dinner, gets laid again, then gets dropped off in the morning. Those night camera’s of him when he is sleeping is really him under the hotel bed hiding from the hooker he is trying to avoid paying.

“I’m just turning on my night camera to tell you that I just woke up due to a sudden violent noise, wait………..can you hear that, it sounds like foot steps. I really hope its just a bear, or a mountain lion because I don’t have the $200 cash if that wildebeest of a street walker is awake. I’ll stay under the bed in my pillow and blanket fort and maybe she’ll just assume I left and leave herself.”

ZootedGranny 07-25-2007 11:02 AM

Bear Grylls is a fake? SHOCK AND AWE!

While he's laid up in a bed at a Motel 8, Les Stroud is out in the tundra, fighting off Death with his bare hands, lugging his camera equipment around.

Eric 07-25-2007 11:26 AM

The guy isn't a survival expert. The show has hired experts. He's basically an actor. Another fraud tv show. They made their $$$$.

Brock 07-25-2007 11:38 AM

Newsflash, he has a camera crew following him around.

88TG88 07-25-2007 11:42 AM

I kind of figured some of the stuff was fake. Still a pretty entertaining show.

cadmonkey 07-25-2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
Newsflash, he has a camera crew following him around.

and with that fact alone, he at least has some company to keep his spirits up.

Bugeater 07-25-2007 11:46 AM

Not surprising, I didn't really care for the show to begin with. Certain things just seemed a little hard to believe.

Brock 07-25-2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadmonkey
and with that fact alone, he at least has some company to keep his spirits up.

That and a helicopter.

DMAC 07-25-2007 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZootedGranny
Les Stroud is out in the tundra, fighting off Death with his bare hands, lugging his camera equipment around.

Plus, he sets up his cameras then walks 100 yards just to get a shot. Then, comes back and gets his camera.

Kraut 07-25-2007 12:51 PM

This may be a dumb question, but since this guy is fake did he actually serve in the British SAS? Now I'm curious.

KCChiefsMan 07-25-2007 03:13 PM

I always thought that Survivorman was definately much more of a badass, but still liked Man vs Wild. This ruins that for me, I always was pretty skeptical of all of the amazing camera angles they got in Man vs Wild though


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