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KC Kings 09-27-2007 05:43 AM

Breaking News: Racially Motivated Beating in Norfolk!
 
http://www.koco.com/video/14202233/index.html

Never mind, the attackers weren't white so it must have just been coincidental.

KC Kings 09-27-2007 05:54 AM

It says a lot about the parents, that they moved to West Oceanview because it "seemed like a nice place to live". When I was in the Navy I delivered pizza's for Papa John's in this area, and we didn't deliver to Ocean View after 10pm.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/p...aten-by-blacks

Norfolk Beating Caught on Tape
Filed by Katie Collett

A violent beating in Norfolk is caught on tape. The 13 year-old victim and his family believe the attack could have been racially motivated.

The victim in this case is a 13 year-old white boy, Damien O’Rourke. The group who attacked him is made up of all African American teenagers. Damien and his family believe the teens may have picked the fight because Damien is white.

“I was going to play football with my friends. The next thing I know when I got there, there was like, seven black kids who said they were going to beat me up and they started beating me up,” says Damien.

Damien and his family say the violent fight was unprovoked.

“They were kicking me and punching me in the face. They weren’t aiming for nothing except my face.”

Damien and his family just moved to the area thinking it’d be a nice place to live.

“We don’t know what we’re going to do now because we can’t even let our kid go outside and play,” says Reesha Price, Damien’s mother.

Reesha says she got the call Saturday afternoon saying Damien was badly beaten just blocks away from their home. When she reached her 13 year-old son, her heart broke. She saw a bloodied and swollen face.

“He was dazed. It makes your stomach hurt. It makes your stomach hurt. There’s no, I mean I was just thanking God his head wasn’t split open.”

Damien says kids at his new school, including one of the kids involved in the fight, treated him badly for a time because he is white. Now his family believes their skin color could have been what led to the first punch being thrown.

“I do kind of think it was racist. I think if he was black he wouldn’t have gotten beat up like that,” says Reesha.

We saw Norfolk police interviewing people in the area of the fight and they said their Gang Unit will get in touch with the family Monday morning. In the meantime, Damien is planning to go to school on Monday.

And this update, also from WAVY TV 10:


UPDATE - Police identify three suspects in taped beating
Sep 24, 2007

Norfolk Police say they’ve identified three of the people seen beating a 13-year-old in a videotape shown to WAVY.com by the victim’s mother.

According to a spokesperson, Investigators from the Gang Squad have identified 3 of the suspects, and are in the process of identifying the other individuals involved.

They say charges will be filed against all of those involved. They also say that the victim, Damien O’Rourke, knew at least one of the assailants. Police said investigators are also trying to determine what circumstances occurred leading up to the assault.

They also said that, contrary to some statements, the assault does not appear to be racially motivated according to information gathered by investigators that we are unable to release.

Simplex3 09-27-2007 05:59 AM

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They also said that, contrary to some statements, the assault does not appear to be racially motivated according to information gathered by investigators that we are unable to release.
Huh. Doesn't look like the cops think they're equipped to handle a full blown riot in their area.

Garcia Bronco 09-27-2007 06:22 AM

I ran into a few of those clowns growing up. That's why you don't go to Norfolk.

Iowanian 09-27-2007 06:33 AM

Its a hate crime and should be prossecuted that way.

If a group of 7-8 white thugs piss pounded one of the only black kids in the school....what exactly would the good Reverend's of TV land be calling for?


Another thing.....why the hell do so many urban thugs feel the need to attack in a pack? For Crimeny sake....its 1, lone, 13 year old white kid.....not Jet Li.

Simplex3 09-27-2007 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Another thing.....why the hell do so many urban thugs feel the need to attack in a pack? For Crimeny sake....its 1, lone, 13 year old white kid.....not Jet Li.

Maybe it's just that they're too lazy to do the entire beating by themselves, but they're motivated enough to do 1/7 of a beating.

Al Bundy 09-27-2007 06:46 AM

That is definitely a racial motivated attack.

Simplex3 09-27-2007 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight
That is definitely a racial motivated attack.

No it's not. It can't be. Move along, nothing to see here.[/police chief]

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-27-2007 07:09 AM

You never see a black kid fight one on one. I grew up in Independence and have plenty of experience with blacks. They hate it when you pull out the ole shotgun.

shyguyms 09-27-2007 07:10 AM

they are a bnch of gutless thug hoodlams, and yes they should make it a hate crime thats what it was.
Also can someone tell that kid that was doing all the swinging that he throws a punch like a little girl.

chagrin 09-27-2007 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
Maybe it's just that they're too lazy to do the entire beating by themselves, but they're motivated enough to do 1/7 of a beating.

They aren't motivated to putll their damned pants up either, but I suppose we are uspposed to understand and celebrate diversity, aren't we.

Simply Red 09-27-2007 07:17 AM

who dey?

the Talking Can 09-27-2007 07:17 AM

this thread is going places...

stevieray 09-27-2007 07:19 AM

I think we might see more of these kinds of attacks...considering rap has been endorsing violence for fifteen years.

MOhillbilly 09-27-2007 07:19 AM

so what.

BigRedChief 09-27-2007 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
this thread is going places...

The wrong places :shake:

Duck Dog 09-27-2007 07:22 AM

There is no such thing as black on white racially motivated crimes. :rolleyes:

Eleazar 09-27-2007 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Its a hate crime and should be prossecuted that way.

If a group of 7-8 white thugs piss pounded one of the only black kids in the school....what exactly would the good Reverend's of TV land be calling for?

Stringing up the kids, school admins, parents, the cops, the judges...

DJ_is_the_realdeal 09-27-2007 07:28 AM

What happened was wrong and all those kids should go to prison for life. But for you guys to say that all black kids fight in packs is crazy. Because white people never do crap like this. So do you think as a black man I watched that video and was like "Get that white boy!" No I wasn't. It made me feel sick to my stomach because I have a 12 year old son and have friends white and black with sons that age. I would never want that to happen. Don't let some thugs have you generalizing all black people.

Duck Dog 09-27-2007 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ_is_the_realdeal
What happened was wrong and all those kids should go to prison for life. But for you guys to say that all black kids fight in packs is crazy. Because white people never do crap like this. So do you think as a black man I watched that video and was like "Get that white boy!" No I wasn't. It made me feel sick to my stomach because I have a 12 year old son and have friends white and black with sons that age. I would never want that to happen. Don't let some thugs have you generalizing all black people.


I doubt they ment all black guys, just the ones that fight. :p

Actually the Turks are known for fighting in groups. I got into it with a Turk at a club in Alsenjac, Izmir and before I knew it it was a full scall riot.

Back on topic though, if this white kid didn't do anything to deserve the beating, it has to be racial.

Lzen 09-27-2007 07:34 AM

How is this breaking news? It's been on Fox News' site for several days.

jidar 09-27-2007 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ_is_the_realdeal
What happened was wrong and all those kids should go to prison for life. But for you guys to say that all black kids fight in packs is crazy. Because white people never do crap like this. So do you think as a black man I watched that video and was like "Get that white boy!" No I wasn't. It made me feel sick to my stomach because I have a 12 year old son and have friends white and black with sons that age. I would never want that to happen. Don't let some thugs have you generalizing all black people.


There are a lot of closet racists around here as you can see. They will swear they aren't but they never miss a chance to pile on against all the injustices they feel the white man is getting. Always the same people too.

In truth the attack may or may not have been racially motivated, it's something worth looking into, but nobody can say that it definitely was just based on what we see here.

Lzen 09-27-2007 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Another thing.....why the hell do so many urban thugs feel the need to attack in a pack? For Crimeny sake....its 1, lone, 13 year old white kid.....not Jet Li.

It's because they are cowards. Pretty much all thug, gang member types are cowards.

Extra Point 09-27-2007 07:45 AM

It's just plain sick that this crap happens, but it does. Update, original story, and Norfolk TV station WAVY report:

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?s=7117439

"UPDATE - Teens face charges in mob beating

Sep 25, 2007 03:36 PM CDT




Investigators say that by the end of the day they will have secured petitions against 5 teens in connection with a mob assault of a 13-year-old victim on Saturday.

Suspects range in age from 13-16. All of the teens are charged with Assault by Mob, a class one misdemeanor. They each face no more than 12 months in jail and a fine of not more than $2,500.

Investigators believe the altercation between 5 black teens and one white teen was not race related. They also believe that an earlier altercation escalated into an assault caught on video tape. They further determine that the incident was not gang-related.

Assault by Mob is a serious offense and all teens charged will have to answer for their action in a court of law."

Funny if a judge would rule that each of the perps when convicted would be sentenced to the same ordeal.

I don't give a shit if the kid beaten was white or black, but I give a shit as to that it happens. Where are the parents? No where to be found.

Lzen 09-27-2007 07:49 AM

I agree that we can't say that it is racial until we see/hear all the evidence. I know this may be hard to fathom, but just because it happens to be a group of black kids beating up on a white kid doesn't mean it was because he is white. There may be a good chance that has something to do with it, but I don't think we can assume anything until all the facts come out.

Dartgod 09-27-2007 07:50 AM

So who was video taping this attack and why the **** didn't they jump in to help the kid?

BigRedChief 09-27-2007 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod
So who was video taping this attack and why the **** didn't they jump in to help the kid?

They watched Seinfeld's last episode before going outside?

Lzen 09-27-2007 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod
So who was video taping this attack and why the **** didn't they jump in to help the kid?

Good question. I guess I just assumed it was one of their friends. You know, filming so they can gain street cred.
:rolleyes: Maybe they were planning to put it up on youtube.

RP_McMurphy 09-27-2007 07:53 AM

Where's Al Sharpton? Where's Jesse Jackson? Calling all race Pimps to Norfolk!!!!!!!

Iowanian 09-27-2007 07:55 AM

I want to clarify that I did not say all blacks do this, nor are they the only ones. I have seen rural white kids pile up 2-3 on one before...and have been under one of those piles in another town.

Someone was taping this, because they knew that particular group of clowns was about to dog pile a 13 year old kid....It should be treated exactly the same as it would if it were 7 white kids and a black kid. No less, no more.



Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ_is_the_realdeal
What happened was wrong and all those kids should go to prison for life. But for you guys to say that all black kids fight in packs is crazy. Because white people never do crap like this. So do you think as a black man I watched that video and was like "Get that white boy!" No I wasn't. It made me feel sick to my stomach because I have a 12 year old son and have friends white and black with sons that age. I would never want that to happen. Don't let some thugs have you generalizing all black people.


KC Kings 09-27-2007 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
Good question. I guess I just assumed it was one of their friends. You know, filming so they can gain street cred.
:rolleyes: Maybe they were planning to put it up on youtube.

A seperate article said that another kid, (white), riding a skateboard nearby filmed the beating.

RP_McMurphy 09-27-2007 08:01 AM

As far as Norfolk and the whole Hampton Roads area. You could bomb that area and I would be happy as can be.

ChiTown 09-27-2007 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
Where's Al Sharpton? Where's Jesse Jackson? Calling all race Pimps to Norfolk!!!!!!!

Wha?

You mean you didn't see them in the background of the video cheering those young lads on?

KC Kings 09-27-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
As far as Norfolk and the whole Hampton Roads area. You could bomb that area and I would be happy as can be.

With a population of 1.8 million, and over 300,000 of those being military and family I think bombing the entire area is a little extreme. There are some bad parts of town but the area is comparable to Kansas City. We have 1.9 million in our metro and our crime is very comparable, (I argue this with my wife who I moved to KC from VA Beach).

That's like seeing a kid get beat up on Quindaro and saying that we should bomb all of KC.

chop 09-27-2007 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
Where's Al Sharpton? Where's Jesse Jackson? Calling all race Pimps to Norfolk!!!!!!!


You know how this works...they won't make an appearance until the attackers are punished by the courts. That's when they'll show up. :p :) :rolleyes:

Mr. Plow 09-27-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
I know this may be hard to fathom, but just because it happens to be a group of black kids beating up on a white kid doesn't mean it was because he is white.

I completely agree with that.....but, if the roles were reversed, would that still be a possibility to some people in this country? Or, would it be a bunch of KKK members jumped a defenseless black kid?

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 10:09 AM

Holy hell @ some of the stuff in this thread.

jAZ 09-27-2007 10:14 AM

Should these kids be charged with attempted murder and face up to 100 years in prison without parole?

noa 09-27-2007 10:15 AM

Black people beat up people like this

White people beat up people like this

ChiTown 09-27-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Holy hell @ some of the stuff in this thread.

This is quite pedestrian by comparison of some racial threads. Seriously.

jAZ 09-27-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point
Investigators believe ... that an earlier altercation escalated into an assault caught on video tape.

Shocked, I tell ya!

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown
This is quite pedestrian by comparison of some racial threads. Seriously.

Yeah, but there are still a few people who have yet to make an appearance in this thread. ;)

KC Kings 09-27-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noa
Black people beat up people like this

White people beat up people like this

I got into an argument with a Korean kid one time. He threatened to fight me and I said, "What, just because you are Chinese I am supposed to think you know karate and be afraid of you?" He then kicked and hit me several times Mr. Miagi style.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 10:33 AM

The kid is lucky to have escaped permanent injury or death, against that many people theres no way to defend yourself. An incredibly ugly clip.

Were this thing reversed, it would undoubtedly be classified as a racially motivated beating & i would want them all hammered under the law.

IMO, anyone who thinks otherwise is being dishonest with themselves & everyone else.

My hunch is that this was a by-product of the Jena 6 case.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free
Were this thing reversed, it would undoubtedly be classified as a racially motivated beating & i would want them all hammered under the law.

Yup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free
My hunch is that this was a by-product of the Jena 6 case.

wtf I just thought we agreed that assuming a racially motivated crime was wrong. >:o

Lzen 09-27-2007 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow
I completely agree with that.....but, if the roles were reversed, would that still be a possibility to some people in this country? Or, would it be a bunch of KKK members jumped a defenseless black kid?

I know the media tends to jump on white on black crimes and ignore black on white crimes these days. So, you may be right about that. But that doesn't necessarily mean any of these crimes are racially motivated. And don't even get me started on hate crime legislation as I think it is ridiculously unnecessary.

BTW, in Sharpton's defense....they asked him about this the other day on Fox News and he said something to the effect that his organization would condemn these kids if race were indeed the motivation.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Yup.



wtf I just thought we agreed that assuming a racially motivated crime was wrong. >:o

WHA???

Sometimes i could swear that your the Mecca/Contrarian of social issues.

Lzen 09-27-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ
Should these kids be charged with attempted murder and face up to 100 years in prison without parole?

They should be punished, but I hardly think this was attempted murder. That is way too extreme.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free
WHA???

Sometimes i could swear that your the Mecca/Contrarian of social issues.

I thought you were complaining about people assuming white on black crimes were racially motivated. Were you not?

pikesome 09-27-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings
With a population of 1.8 million, and over 300,000 of those being military and family I think bombing the entire area is a little extreme. There are some bad parts of town but the area is comparable to Kansas City. We have 1.9 million in our metro and our crime is very comparable, (I argue this with my wife who I moved to KC from VA Beach).

That's like seeing a kid get beat up on Quindaro and saying that we should bomb all of KC.

That doesn't jive with my experiences at all. I lived in Newport News for about a year in 1998 and it was ass. The same with the other side of the bay. Maybe some places are nice but I never saw them.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
I thought you were complaining about people assuming white on black crimes were racially motivated. Were you not?

IMO, pretty much any time you have 6 people of 1 color beating someone of a different color without being provoked...its racially motivated.

If it were reversed, white on black, it would just as disgusting.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free
IMO, pretty much any time you have 6 people of 1 color beating someone of a different color without being provoked...its racially motivated.

If it were reversed, white on black, it would just as disgusting.

I agree, which is why I'm not sure why you said "if it were the other way around, it would be classified as racially motivated". You seem to be talking about a double standard, yet you acknowledged that it'd be racially motivated in either instance. Who were you complaining about? The media?

JohninGpt 09-27-2007 11:53 AM

Breaking News: Racially Motivated Beating in Norfolk!
 
I wasn't there, I had nothing to do with it.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
I agree, which is why I'm not sure why you said "if it were the other way around, it would be classified as racially motivated". You seem to be talking about a double standard, yet you acknowledged that it'd be racially motivated in either instance. Who were you complaining about? The media?

Yes...the media, city "leaders", the cops etc.

When you here about something like this, only reversed, its always a hate crime & of course it is. But when its black on white, its always..."whoa, whoa, whoa, lets not get ahead of ourselves".

Its blatantly obvious what went on here & all i'm asking is that it be called & prosecuted for what it was...a racially motivated hate crime.

Otter 09-27-2007 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jidar
There are a lot of closet racists around here as you can see. They will swear they aren't but they never miss a chance to pile on against all the injustices they feel the white man is getting. Always the same people too.

In truth the attack may or may not have been racially motivated, it's something worth looking into, but nobody can say that it definitely was just based on what we see here.

Now, make those attackers white and make the victim a lone, skinny black boy getting the shit beat out of him by a groupl of white thugs and see how you feel about it.

If your trying to say there isn't a double standard your completely out of touch.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 11:59 AM

I'm against hate crimes, but are you familiar with hate crime laws in Norfolk? Are there any?

Mr. Plow 09-27-2007 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen
I know the media tends to jump on white on black crimes and ignore black on white crimes these days. So, you may be right about that. But that doesn't necessarily mean any of these crimes are racially motivated. And don't even get me started on hate crime legislation as I think it is ridiculously unnecessary.

BTW, in Sharpton's defense....they asked him about this the other day on Fox News and he said something to the effect that his organization would condemn these kids if race were indeed the motivation.


That was my point. To me, it doesn't matter either way. White on Black or Black on White. Just because their are different colors does not necessarily mean it was about race. But, when you get to the point of 6 on 1, the race aspect should at least be looked at as a possibility.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jidar
There are a lot of closet racists around here as you can see. They will swear they aren't but they never miss a chance to pile on against all the injustices they feel the white man is getting. Always the same people too.

In truth the attack may or may not have been racially motivated, it's something worth looking into, but nobody can say that it definitely was just based on what we see here.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter
Now, make those attackers white and make the victim a lone, skinny black boy getting the shit beat out of him and see how you feel about it. If your trying to say there isn't a double standard your completely out of touch.

There's a double standard from both sides. One side feels the need to blow up any black-on-white crimes to push their agenda, and one side blows up white-on-black crimes to push their agenda.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

Whitey bad.

|Zach| 09-27-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Dog
There is no such thing as black on white racially motivated crimes. :rolleyes:

Whoa.

Strawman.

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
Another thing.....why the hell do so many urban thugs feel the need to attack in a pack? For Crimeny sake....its 1, lone, 13 year old white kid.....not Jet Li.

it's consider "cool" to record a group "beatdown" :shake:




it my day it was called "being a possy" cause you weren't man enough to fight on your own.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free
Whitey bad.

Dude, you need to get a grip. As soon as this thread was posted, generalities started flying out from everyone....

"Blacks only fight in groups, they're too afraid"

"The white man is getting screwed" and yada yada yada.

Sometimes this site makes me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan.


Look, there exists a reality where both crimes, in Jena, and this one are completely heinous, and even if it were racially motivated on either side, making wholesale accusations about an entire race based upon a sample size that could fit comfortably in an SUV is a ridiculous and ignorant leap.

|Zach| 09-27-2007 12:07 PM

As time goes on my support for the idea of hate crime designation lessens.

Donger 09-27-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings
http://www.koco.com/video/14202233/index.html

Never mind, the attackers weren't white so it must have just been coincidental.

How do you know that this was racially-motivated? Maybe the white kid is just an a$$hole?

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Dude, you need to get a grip. As soon as this thread was posted, generalities started flying out from everyone....

"Blacks only fight in groups, they're too afraid"

"The white man is getting screwed" and yada yada yada.

Sometimes this site makes me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan.


Look, there exists a reality where both crimes, in Jena, and this one are completely heinous, and even if it were racially motivated on either side, making wholesale accusations about an entire race based upon a sample size that could fit comfortably in an SUV is a ridiculous and ignorant leap.

don't jesse jackson, farikan and all there cohorts do the same all the time?

whitey is starting to get pissed about this 1-way racism standard.


if the skin color were reversed there would be "no doubt" about whether it was racially motivated on not. Another million man march would already be on the horizon .... not to mention rumblings of a race riot some place in protest.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
don't jesse jackson, farikan and all there cohorts do the same all the time?

whitey is starting to get pissed about this 1-way racism standard.


if the skin color were reversed there would be "no doubt" about whether it was racially motivated on not. Another million man march would already be on the horizon .... not to mention rumblings of a race riot some place in protest.

So your theoretical "reversal" somehow makes it right?

Show me where I've supported Jesse Jackson or Farakhan.....

Just because you oppose one bad action doesn't mean that you're a good person.

Can't both stances be wrong and objectionable?

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
So your theoretical "reversal" somehow makes it right?

Show me where I've supported Jesse Jackson or Farakhan.....

Just because you oppose one bad action doesn't mean that you're a good person.

Can't both stances be wrong and objectionable?

didn't say you supported anything ..... this isn't about you. This is about the subject matter of the thread.

yes, this beating is wrong no matter what the skin color.


using it as political statement isn't good for anyone either.


But the reality is Good for the Goose, Good for the Gander


as long as african america groups call racism at every opportunity and continue to try to use racism as a social power tool there will be backlash.


it's also happening with religion.....


as long as people go around hitting people upside the head with their bibles saying "i'm better than you ...... Repent!!!" there is going to be backlash when an incident happens on the religion side.


bash gays, then get caught toe-tapping in a bathroom stall ... backlash

condemn homosexuality then molest and altar boy ..... backlash.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
as long as african america groups call racism at every opportunity and continue to try to use racism as a social power tool there will be backlash.

So 6 kids being dickheads (and perhaps racists themselves) in Norfolk should overrule any other racist tendencies in our countries??

Easy 6 09-27-2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Dude, you need to get a grip. As soon as this thread was posted, generalities started flying out from everyone....

"Blacks only fight in groups, they're too afraid"

"The white man is getting screwed" and yada yada yada.

Sometimes this site makes me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan.


Look, there exists a reality where both crimes, in Jena, and this one are completely heinous, and even if it were racially motivated on either side, making wholesale accusations about an entire race based upon a sample size that could fit comfortably in an SUV is a ridiculous and ignorant leap.

Dumping me in with knee-jerkers is not a fair analysis.

I agree 100% that the generalities were'a flyin'. Me using the term "always" sounds like one too, but man, i'm having a hard time remembering a case that was different.

Jena was flat out wrong on all sides, its not so hard to imagine that a small town in Louisiana still has some heavy duty racial problems.

A "whites only tree"...wrong. Period.

Hanging nooses???...wrong. Period.

Several guys jumping 1 kid???...wrong. Period.

Attempted murder charges???...wrong. Period.

Anyways, i cant & wont be labeled a "closet racist" or any other kind of racist for that matter. Not that you did, but some here feel that if someone disagrees with them, that they are a bunch of cowardly racists.

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
So 6 kids being dickheads (and perhaps racists themselves) in Norfolk should overrule any other racist tendencies in our countries??

oh please .... if those 6 kids were white, and the victim was Black,the whole country would be freaking out.

Donger 09-27-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
So 6 kids being dickheads (and perhaps racists themselves) in Norfolk should overrule any other racist tendencies in our countries??

You suffer from significant White Guilt, don't you?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
Anyways, i cant & wont be labeled a "closet racist" or any other kind of racist for that matter. Not that you did, but some here feel that if someone disagrees with them, that they are a bunch of cowardly racists.

I agree with your concern, but when those "some here" extrapolate the actions of a very small number of people as indicative of the actions of an entire race, that's what I have a problem with.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
You suffer from significant White Guilt, don't you?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but absolutely not. Deflections aside, and I say again, neither case is right in this case or excusable.

Mr. Kotter 09-27-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|
As time goes on my support for the idea of hate crime designation lessens.

Life experience and active citizenship bring wisdom....to those who seek it. :thumb:

Mr. Kotter 09-27-2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
I agree with your concern, but when those "some here" extrapolate the actions of a very small number of people as indicative of the actions of an entire race, that's what I have a problem with.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but based on much of what I've seen you write.....I'd bet you are much less concerned...when liberal folks extapolate the actions of white bigots and 'rednecks' into a generalized white racism....

than when conservative folks extrapolate the actions of black bigots and 'bruthas' into generalized black racism....

:hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Laz
oh please .... if those 6 kids were white, and the victim was Black,the whole country would be freaking out.

Yep. And Jackson, Sharpton, and folks like them would be mugging for the cameras 24/7.

KC Kings 09-27-2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Jena was flat out wrong on all sides, its not so hard to imagine that a small town in Louisiana still has some heavy duty racial problems.

A "whites only tree"...wrong. Period.

Hanging nooses???...wrong. Period.

Several guys jumping 1 kid???...wrong. Period.

Attempted murder charges???...wrong. Period.

I still don't understand why teenagers hanging a noose is the biggest part of this story? After the noose incident a larger group of black students gathered under the tree causing more tention, and the district attorney came to the school, and in front of police officers threatend to end the lives of black children. “I could end your lives with the stroke of a pen.”

Why are powerless kids displaying a symbol of death a bigger headline than powerfull adults threatening death to children?

|Zach| 09-27-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
Life experience and active citizenship bring wisdom....to those who seek it. :thumb:

You are still the joke of this board...if you agree with me on anything it makes take a second look.

No joke. Go somewhere and drum up some faux outrage.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings
I still don't understand why teenagers hanging a noose is the biggest part of this story? After the noose incident a larger group of black students gathered under the tree causing more tention, and the district attorney came to the school, and in front of police officers threatend to end the lives of black children. “I could end your lives with the stroke of a pen.”

Why are powerless kids displaying a symbol of death a bigger headline than powerfull adults threatening death to children?

I honestly dont know, i do think that DA should lose his job though.

It was a VERY unnecessary, unprofessional & likely racist, threat.

Duck Dog 09-27-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|
Whoa.

Strawman.


Whoa.

D!ck Weed.


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