Herms response to LJ reported by 101 The Fox
 

101 The Fox is reporting that Herms response to LJs (checker-chess) comment was that LJ was the problem due to his holdout and getting a late start.

They stated that Brian W agrees with Herm on this as well?

No link due to hearing it reported twice on 101.
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Is this the beginning of the end?

Or is it a ploy to get LJ pissed off and running?

Yes, LJ wouldn't have been hit 5 yards behind the LOS if he hadn't held out of camp. :rolleyes:

I was surprised about the BW part, not Herms.

Thats why I thought it was a ploy to piss of LJ.

It's not the beginning of the end... it's just a late beginning to the beginning.

No chit. He gets the ball takes one step and is having to deal with a would be tackler. He's getting no lanes. But its not all the OL's fault. 9 guys in the box has a lot to do with it also.

I think Brian W needs to worry about making a few holes. I don't think he's played worth a $hit so far.

You think? 9 on 5 seems pretty fair to me... Herm seems to think so also....

At least we're not predictable.

:rolleyes:

F Herm

No kidding. This is absurd.

"Or is it a ploy to get LJ pissed off and running?"

I'm thinking LJ is pretty pissed off already. He's so angry he might rap again and then deny it.

Herm is on crack if he thinks ANY RB can run on 8, 9, or, 10 stacked in the box. If this clown and his stooge of an OC don't figure out what a forward pass is, not only is LJ going to get killed, but he will be lucky if the whole team doesn't quit on him soon.

...and no running back other than LJ has to face that...


difference between last year and this year is I don't see LJ making any effort to make something out a blown play.

he's got his guarantee money.... now he needs to earn it.

Hey Downfield Big Game we off in the second half of the Vikings game... Have you heard about offensive explosion and attacking display Huard put on??

The rest of the NFL is in fear and with Downfield Big Game behind center, the days of 8-9 in the box are over... We will shread opposing defenses now with 15 swing/checkdown passes for a net total of 5 yards....

Defenses be afraid, very afraid...

LJ needs to run the ball with the same skill he runs his mouth. Herm too.

Let me be the first to post "BS".

I'm a little disgusted right now. Herm doesn't like to point the finger at any coach but he'll do it with any player. He's done it to Huard and LJ since Sunday. How about pointing the finger at your own inept offensive coaches that haven't accomplished jack shit in the NFL?

**** you Herm. There, I said it.

uh oh.... GoChiefs is going to need therapy....

It's a crazy love-triangle. LJ is the man and Herm is just gettin' some on the side.

Waters said yesterday on 610 that the reason LJ was having problems was because of the offensive line. He said that people put too much blame on LJ when he's not effective, and too much praise when he is. He said that the line HAS to block better for him, the passing game HAS to produce to free up the LOS, and that he can't run if the O-line can't block.

Whatever 101 said is incredibly inconsistent with what I heard yesterday from his own mouth.

Seriously, did you guys see LJ's long run? The O-line blocked beautifully on that play, even Wiegmann. LJ made two guys miss and took it down to the 5. Too bad Jeff Webb ****ed it up.

101 could be extrapolating from Waters' comments last week about certain players being more concerned with their fantasy numbers than they do about being on a team.

Yep they showed that same clip on the 38 sports spot BW put the blame on the OL not LJ.

All I've got to say is just use the damn playmakers. Huard just needs to repeat what he did in the fourth quarter last sunday. Right off the bat he needs to hit Gonzo or Bowe for a 10-15 yd strike. And then do so for a couple more plays and you'll see the defense open up and LJ (just like last week) will break a run. As long as no one screws up with a penalty, you'll see the O-line get a lot more motivated after something like that. It called Controling the LOS Herm; use it to YOUR advantage for once.

More beast, less ballerina.

Last Sunday he he hit TG for 15 across the middle on the first play of the game. TG dropped the ball.

Your asking alot from a career backup....

Since when does throwing a pass 5 yards over the head of TG constitute a dropped ball?

When you are orally pleasing Huard....

BINGO!!! He is no longer hungry IMO. I made a comment to Frazod Sunday during the game, it looks like LJ is running in mud this year compared to previous years.

The good news, less than three weeks before we can activate Priest! :D

It was in his hands, he should have caught it.

Point being, after that failed pass Huard went into a shell and immediately threw the checkdown for the rest of the half.

FYP

There is hope for you yet.

You're insane. He was extremely anxious to get back to the team in TC and run out and practice. If he wasn't hungry, he wouldn't be so frustrated with the lack of success. His delay of game penalty spells hunger and frustration.

To say LJ is a happy fat cat is ridiculous.

Get a new tv. Huard even said after the game that he overthrew the ball. TG didn't drop it.

It was well more than 15 yards, Tony never even touched the ball because it was too far out of reach.

If LJ really tried hard he would have been able to carry Pat and Kevin Williams on his back for 6+ yards per carry. The effort isn't there. Falling down just because three guys hit you simultaneously behind the LOS? C'mon Harvey Williams was better than that.

Tony most certainly touched the ball.

What is really disppointing GoChiefs is that TG was wide open...

Why couldnt DownField Big Game just get him the ball in the numbers?

Seriously?

I have only watched it three times, it doesn't appear so to me. However, from the angle on TV, I could have missed it. I know Tony sure made a hell of an effort on it.

He hit him in the hands. Good enough for me. Tony caught that pass from Trent dozens of times.

I'm realistic. The ball isn't going to be perfect every time. Tony makes a lot more money than Huard. The onus is on him.

We see it differently.

Watch it again.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9335/dropmx2.gif

An extremely difficult catch on a terribly overthrown ball.

True and considering how bad Huard acutally is and he should never ever be on the field for any team.... I guess we should be just excited that he even got the ball that close to TG...

Your right, it is all Tony's fault.. He is the pro bowler, not Huard.. He is heading for the Hall of Fame, Not Huard...

Tony should of stepped up and bailed his pathetice career backup out..

Meh, it's on both of them. It probably should have been caught; but Huard threw an incredibly shitty pass.

I have more of a problem with Huard playing scared after that play (until the 2nd quarter that is).

I stand corrected. That is the first play? The angle I have at home is more of a straight on sideline shot.

notice the safeties readying themselves for a killshot on an exposed Gonzalez

I was at the game, and I remember thinking he tipped it, this vid confirms that. But I also remember thinking "Jeez, Damon, you had tons of time and you can't hit the big 88 in the numbers?

It looked like Tony could have caught that pass, but I give Tony a little more benefit of the doubt. There was no need for the pass to be that high.

20% bad on Tony, 80% bad on Huard.

That run came out of the single back, three WR formation. Bennet had a nice 9 yard gain from the same formation.
This should be a hint to the coaches.

Are you trying to say that some running lanes will open if we spread out the defense?

BLASPHEMY!!

I agree as well, he just isn't getting any balance to help him run and the Oline is going against a defense that can predict the O.

Not if the QB always throws the checkdown instead of a forward pass.

Late in the 4th quarter the Chiefs needed a first down to seal the game. Solari calls a power running play, I formation with 2 TE and 1 WR, straight up the middle. Larry head buts the tangle of bodies in the middle of the field and goes down. He very well could’ve bounced it outside for a big gain and at least a 1st down. We’ve seen him do this, we know he can.
I think it’s a case that he decided the play wasn’t going to work and just stepped through the motions rather than attacking. But that’s just my opinion from what I’m seeing.

Throw the ball more and lanes will open. Herm/Solari don't seem to understand this until the 4th quarter.

Yep, I agree.

Hmmm. I wonder if LJ is thinking he'll just run 'em as they call 'em to make a point.

FAX

Running from a passing formation? Passing from a running formation?
Yea, who’d ever want to do that.

That's not even arena league ball. That's outer-space, universe crazy football.

TG catches this like 95% of the time ... I was surprised he didn't come down with it... but shit happens.

TonyG has clearly lost his burst. I fully expect him to be in the pressbox eating nachos in no less than 3 weeks.

When you don't believe the coaches know what they are doing but have no choice but to follow their lead, there is no incentive to do more than the minimum required. Given the attitude Larry has shown since day one, this should not surprise anyone.

By the same token, remember what his dad has said about him. If he believes in his coach, he will run through a wall for them. Larry is not buying the Herm BS any more, IMO. If the play calling doesn't shape up, this team will fall apart in the locker room sooner rather then later.

I do remember that statement from LJ's father. We're running out of options though, Mr. Hydrae. Larry's on record as saying he doesn't like white coaches. Now he doesn't like our black coach.

Maybe we need a big, purple dinosaur coach. Couldn't be any worse, I guess. BarneyBall.

FAX

Yeah, that stuff just drives me crazy. I know football traditionalists believe in that moment you can seal the game by pounding the ball and wearing down the defense. But when you're playing a defense that has whooped your ass all day and has shown they can get in the backfield with ease, why do you expect it to work now? I think that formation would have been right if we were playing a lesser defensive team, but not one that was owning our running attack like they were. It was like we just conceded we weren't going to get the first down. All we wanted them to do was force them to burn their timeouts.

Welcome to Hermie "you play to win the game" Ball...

It really is one of the great sports ironies that he is famous for saying that and his whole style is the exact opposite.

But, But, But he is now playing for a black coach he can identify with!

Herm knows the tough times LJ had to endure in Happy Valley!

ROFL ROFL Awesome! :clap:

I was surprised to see Herm Edwards insult both LaDanian Tomlinson and Larry Johnson during a Q&A daily press conference. I don't have time to find the Q&A at the top of the thread, but I mention the comment in the in my post last night.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=14

In all fairness to Edwards, it would be better to read the text in its entirety. It makes excellent travel material.

(j/k about the travel material.) okkkk, it's back to work for me. ...