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SLAG 09-27-2007 07:08 AM

Miller Brewery Funds Gay Sadomasochistic Orgy on San Francisco Streets
 
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SAN FRANCISCO, September 25, 2007 - The Folsom Street Fair, a gay parade which has for years included full nudity and sex acts on public streets, is set to take place again this year on September 30 with city approval, partial public funding and sponsorship by Miller Brewing Company. This year several Christian and pro-family groups have called for public scrutiny into the event as the ad for the event is a mockery of Christ's Last Supper.

The ad portrays Christ and His disciples as half-naked homosexual sadomasochists with the bread and wine representing Christ's broken body and blood replaced with sadomasochistic sex toys.

"The most unimaginable and vile acts of debauchery are commonplace during the fair," said Matt Barber, Policy Director for Cultural Issues with Concerned Women for America (CWA). "Senator Larry Craig was arrested and driven out of the Senate for allegedly soliciting public 'gay' sex, yet during this event the city of San Francisco suspends the law and allows 'gay' men and women to parade the streets fully nude, many having sex - even group orgies - in broad daylight, while taxpayer funded police officers look on and do absolutely nothing."

Catholic League president Bill Donohue focused his attention on getting Miller to act on the anti-Christian ad. "There are several sponsors to this street fair, but most are local and represent niche markets; Miller is the only national household sponsor," said Donohue. "Furthermore, Miller has a record of acceding to requests from various segments of the population that have objected to certain ads: it has bowed to the wishes of Muslims, African-American clergy, lawyers and feminists by pulling ads deemed offensive. Surely it will do the same in this instance: the ad, like the event, is morally depraved. Indeed, it is the kind of ad that only the enemies of Christians would entertain."

"We have contacted Miller Brewing and expect that they will cooperate and do what is ethically right," he added.

Stephen Bennett, a former homosexual who runs a ministry for those struggling to overcome same-sex attraction disorder, challenged mainstream gay groups to condemn the vile anti-Christian display. "I call upon the homosexual Human Rights Campaign, GLAAD, GLSEN, and the Gay and Lesbian Task Force to publicly condemn this blatant mockery of Christians and Christianity by some within their community, and condemn this sick public display of immoral behavior," he said.

Bennett also called on the Miller Brewing Company to pull their endorsement of the event.

Concerned Women for America is calling on California's elected officials - Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Governor Schwarzenegger and Senators Feinstein and Boxer - to publicly condemn "this unprovoked attack against Christ and His followers."

To express concerns to Miller contact: Miller spokesman Julian Green at
[email protected]

HypnotizedMonkey 09-27-2007 07:14 AM

Well when I get on here to post on the 25th and nobody is online, now I'll know why! Queers!

chagrin 09-27-2007 07:18 AM

Wow, what a shame, not only because of the religious thing, freedom of speech and all but the blatant sex acts in the street. Why is it that these folks get special treatment? All I hear all day, everyday is "we aren't different, we're just like everyone else. Well guess what people, you're not.

BigRedChief 09-27-2007 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chagrin
Wow, what a shame, not only because of the religious thing, freedom of speech and all but the blatant sex acts in the street. Why is it that these folks get special treatment? All I hear all day, everyday is "we aren't different, we're just like everyone else. Well guess what people, you're not.

What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business. You do it on main street........That becomes the public's business.

SLAG 09-27-2007 07:22 AM

I dare anyone to Do a Google Image Search for " Folsom Street Fair"

seclark 09-27-2007 07:26 AM

9 gays can't be wrong...drink miller beer!
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tomahawk kid 09-27-2007 07:27 AM

OK -

Is this from some right wing nutjob website?

It sounds like the description of the event could be just a tad sensationalized.

I seriously doubt the city would allow public sex displays, but I could be wrong.

Simply Red 09-27-2007 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SLAG
I dare anyone to Do a Google Image Search for " Folsom Street Fair"

Okay hang on.

SLAG 09-27-2007 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
OK -

Is this from some right wing nutjob website?

It sounds like the description of the event could be just a tad sensationalized.

I seriously doubt the city would allow public sex displays, but I could be wrong.


NSFW-

From google Image Search for Folsom street Fair

http://www.lodgephoto.com/galleries/.../US-B-211.html

chagrin 09-27-2007 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
OK -

Is this from some right wing nutjob website?

It sounds like the description of the event could be just a tad sensationalized.

I seriously doubt the city would allow public sex displays, but I could be wrong.

you "could be wrong"? Where the hell have you been all your life? They've been doing this for years, by they I mean the folks and what they do, during the parade, in public.

So, as it turns out, they're just a bunch of Left Wing nut jobs. :shake:

Eleazar 09-27-2007 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin
Wow, what a shame, not only because of the religious thing, freedom of speech and all but the blatant sex acts in the street. Why is it that these folks get special treatment? All I hear all day, everyday is "we aren't different, we're just like everyone else. Well guess what people, you're not.

Shut up and celebrate diversity.

Dartgod 09-27-2007 07:34 AM

They left this out of the article:

NTTIAWWT

HonestChieffan 09-27-2007 07:36 AM

Man Ill miss it....Going to be in SF on Saturday then drive into Sonoma. Freks and nutcases abound in California. More reason to build the border fence there.

Hope they have football on TV on Sunday in the winerys.

tomahawk kid 09-27-2007 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin
you "could be wrong"? Where the hell have you been all your life? They've been doing this for years, by they I mean the folks and what they do, during the parade, in public.

So, as it turns out, they're just a bunch of Left Wing nut jobs. :shake:

Excuse my ignorance when it comes to gay sex displays in California.

Not something I keep up on.

Dartgod 09-27-2007 07:43 AM

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Hope they have football on TV on Sunday in the winerys.

:shake:

Radar Chief 09-27-2007 07:47 AM

Here’s what we do.
Throw up a wall around the entire place, air drop the Phelps Klan in then sell what the cameras catch on pay per view.

SLAG 09-27-2007 07:49 AM

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=244

BigRedChief 09-27-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
Excuse my ignorance when it comes to gay sex displays in California.

Not something I keep up on.

Slacker :harumph:

chagrin 09-27-2007 08:00 AM

:clap:

kepp 09-27-2007 08:03 AM

"Here's to you Mr. Folsom-parade-dwelling-gay-sadomasochistic-street-orgy-partaker."

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_ph...-bud-radio.jpg

chagrin 09-27-2007 08:04 AM

Look, there has to be common sense in this country - if anyone watches any coverage of this thing, or reads the articles about it and can't come up with the proper decision, really should be thrown out of this country, on their ass.

Chiefnj2 09-27-2007 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SLAG
NSFW-

From google Image Search for Folsom street Fair

http://www.lodgephoto.com/galleries/.../US-B-211.html

How many Planeteers did you spot??

Radar Chief 09-27-2007 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp
"Here's to you Mr. Folsom-parade-dwelling-gay-sadomasochistic-street-orgy-partaker."

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_ph...-bud-radio.jpg

:LOL: So pop a cold Miller Lite, Mr. Folsom-parade-dwelling-gay-sadomasochistic-street-orgy-partaker. It might wash that taste out of your mouth.


Q: A gay couple are in a house having buht sex when the house catches on fire. Which one makes it out, the one on top or the one on bottom?

A: The one on bottom, he already had his chit packed. ;)

Chiefnj2 09-27-2007 08:12 AM

"Stephen Bennett, a former homosexual who runs a ministry for those struggling to overcome same-sex attraction disorder, challenged mainstream gay groups to condemn the vile anti-Christian display."

I didn't actually enjoy another man's penis being placed in my mouth, it was merely a same-sex attraction disorder.

Extra Point 09-27-2007 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief
...air drop the Phelps Klan in....

A la WKRP.

Extra Point 09-27-2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypnotizedMonkey
Well when I get on here to post on the 25th and nobody is online, now I'll know why! Queers!

The irony in the comment box giving this guy rep....

boogblaster 09-27-2007 08:37 AM

Well Im not goin this year..Every time I go, them damn cross-dresser make sport of me outfit ....

Sully 09-27-2007 09:26 AM

They should not be allowed to do many of the over-the-top things I'm reading about here. If it's illegal, it should be stopped.

However, I read this and I'm no more affected by it than I am Party Cove at the Lake, or Mardi Gras in New Orleans.

Pitt Gorilla 09-27-2007 09:29 AM

Why would anyone outside of SF care? I mean, if I lived there, I would probably be upset, but I don't. How does this possibly impact non-San Franciscans?

I also don't understand the "taxpayer" angle. The police serve protect all sorts of nutjobs while on the taxpayers' dime. I'm not sure how this is any different.


Edit:
Wait, Miller? The only people who drink Miller are homos anyway. What sort of impact are they hoping for with this campaign? Miller won't want to alienate their primary clientele.

Radar Chief 09-27-2007 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully
They should not be allowed to do many of the over-the-top things I'm reading about here. If it's illegal, it should be stopped.

However, I read this and I'm no more affected by it than I am Party Cove at the Lake, or Mardi Gras in New Orleans.

Mardi Gras is the first thing I thought of also, though there’s certainly more “ick” factor in this story.

Frazod 09-27-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
OK -

Is this from some right wing nutjob website?

It sounds like the description of the event could be just a tad sensationalized.

I seriously doubt the city would allow public sex displays, but I could be wrong.

We are talking California here. As long as nobody involved was smoking a cigarette, I'm sure it's allowed. :rolleyes:

DaKCMan AP 09-27-2007 09:42 AM

It's probably the only place they can get anyone to buy that Miller Chill crap.

Brock 09-27-2007 09:44 AM

I'm okay with it.

StcChief 09-27-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP
It's probably the only place they can get anyone to buy that Miller Chill crap.

Miler is owned by South Africa company so AIDS / buttsex etc is all cool

DaFace 09-27-2007 10:04 AM

I would imagine that, if you don't agree with the whole deal, you could always choose not to go to that area of San Francisco that day. Or not do a Google Image search. It's not like they're parading through downtown San Fran or anything.

the Talking Can 09-27-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief
Miler is owned by South Africa company so AIDS / buttsex etc is all cool

can we get this nonsense moved to DC or something...

noa 09-27-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief
Miler is owned by South Africa company so AIDS / buttsex etc is all cool

Its about time someone made fun of all those Africans with AIDS

tomahawk kid 09-27-2007 10:18 AM

What this really necessary - a$$?

chagrin

"try paying attention to your country, dipshit"

noa 09-27-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid
What this really necessary - a$$?

chagrin

"try paying attention to your country, dipshit"

Translation: You should think what I think

Valiant 09-27-2007 10:25 AM

Sure I cant drink beer on the streets for Snake Saturday now but those ****ers can have sex on the street.. Damn bastards..

tomahawk kid 09-27-2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noa
Translation: You should think what I think

No shit.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 10:31 AM

I only want to see them tig ol' bitties bouncin' at Mardi Gras.

tomahawk kid 09-27-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
I only want to see them tig ol' bitties bouncin' at Mardi Gras.

Totally different.

That hetero's, which is cool.

:)

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 10:33 AM

b00b n00dity > d00d n00dity

Eleazar 09-27-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Edit:
Wait, Miller? The only people who drink Miller are homos anyway. What sort of impact are they hoping for with this campaign? Miller won't want to alienate their primary clientele.

AB products are the ones from St. Loser

DaFace 09-27-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
b00b n00dity > d00d n00dity

I couldn't agree more, but not everyone does. If people are gonna get up in arms about the Folsom Street Fair, Mardis Gras shouldn't be far behind.

From what I can tell, saying that these people are "having sex" or "having an orgy" is a bit of a stretch. Looks like they do have bondage demonstrations, where they show people ways they can spice up their sex life, but it doesn't seem like there are people going at it like rabbits like the article implies.

Saulbadguy 09-27-2007 10:43 AM

I prefer Miller Lite over Bud Light or Coors Light. If we are talking free beer.

Jilly 09-27-2007 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully
They should not be allowed to do many of the over-the-top things I'm reading about here. If it's illegal, it should be stopped.

However, I read this and I'm no more affected by it than I am Party Cove at the Lake, or Mardi Gras in New Orleans.

I don't know if you heard the article clearly enough, OMFG, THEY ARE GAY

Bill S Preston 09-27-2007 11:00 AM

So you're not allowed to walk outside and smoke a cigarette, but you can engage in group orgies outside in public streets. What if you engage in a group orgy with a cigarette in your mouth?

|Zach| 09-27-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace
I couldn't agree more, but not everyone does. If people are gonna get up in arms about the Folsom Street Fair, Mardis Gras shouldn't be far behind.

From what I can tell, saying that these people are "having sex" or "having an orgy" is a bit of a stretch. Looks like they do have bondage demonstrations, where they show people ways they can spice up their sex life, but it doesn't seem like there are people going at it like rabbits like the article implies.

Pretty much, just a lot of envelope pushing to get people worked up and get more exposure from that.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...ch_afp_300.jpg

I would say it is only natural for groups such as this to try to push back and push the envelope when they are always on the defensive in regards to their rights.

Adept Havelock 09-27-2007 11:29 AM

Meh, it's the gay version of Party Cove, Mardi Gras, Carnivale, etc...

Be sure to let us know when you get an abundance of sand in your vagina over those, Slag. :rolleyes:

Gay Sex in the streets is gross from my perspective, but I don't live there...so I don't worry about it or feel it's worth joining some half-baked internet crusade some prude decides we should all know about.

I don't care for Miller, but I'll probably buy a sixpack next time I make beer bread just to spite the holier-than-thou yammerheads.

gblowfish 09-27-2007 11:36 AM

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Here's the poster...
Kinda like the renaissance festival...
with vasoline.

Easy 6 09-27-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business. You do it on main street........That becomes the public's business.

Thats the rock bottom line on this issue.

|Zach| 09-27-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish
Here's the poster...
Kinda like the renaissance festival...
with vasoline.

Ah, thats it. This really backs up my earlier post. If religion is going to push that hard against the gay and lesbian community you are going to see it push back...mocking the last supper.

StcChief 09-27-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noa
Its about time someone made fun of all those Africans with AIDS

If the SA beer company is promoting it they also go along with supporting it as a cause of GETTING AIDS.

You figure it out. noa

Demonpenz 09-27-2007 11:47 AM

Those are some sexy penis's

KCFalcon59 09-27-2007 11:47 AM

Gay people don't go to San Francisco, they get sucked into it.

NTTAWWT

BIG_DADDY 09-27-2007 11:52 AM

I think the event is an abomination especially since people bring their young children to it. That being said there are no orgy's in the streets, that's a ridiculous accusation.

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish
Here's the poster...
Kinda like the renaissance festival...
with vasoline.

They totally made the black guy Jesus too. Talk about a low blow.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
I think the event is an abomination especially since people bring their young children to it. That being said there are no orgy's in the streets, that's a ridiculous accusation.

Funny how it took 60+ posts for someone to point this out.

Kudos to you sir.

Of course, why should other people actually consider the veracity of the article when it jives with their politics so well :shrug:

HolmeZz 09-27-2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
I think the event is an abomination especially since people bring their young children to it. That being said there are no orgy's in the streets, that's a ridiculous accusation.

What about the nudity and stuff? If this has all been going on for years, as the article suggests, I think parents would've stopped bringing their kids. I'm not sure why children would be there anyway.

DaFace 09-27-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|
Ah, thats it. This really backs up my earlier post. If religion is going to push that hard against the gay and lesbian community you are going to see it push back...mocking the last supper.

I actually tend to agree. This line from the wikipedia article did make me stop and think about it a bit, though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Some conservative groups criticized this as anti-Christian although parodies and homages of the Last Supper painting like Renée Cox's controversial Yo Mama's Last Supper are numerous including The Simpsons, The Sopranos, Phish, That 70s Show, Robert Altman (from the film MASH) and Boston Red Sox.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_Street_Fair

If The Last Supper can be parodied by all those shows, why not these people? I dunno what to think. It's definitely touchy.

Adept Havelock 09-27-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish
Here's the poster...
Kinda like the renaissance festival...
with vasoline.


ROFL Is that Ann the Man Coulter in the SS getup behind the Black "Jesus" guy?

I prefer the take on the "Last Supper" that showed Comicus the Stand-Up Philosopher in the Background.

Buddy Rich 09-27-2007 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
They totally made the black guy Jesus too. Talk about a low blow.

HA!

gblowfish 09-27-2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock
ROFL Is that Ann the Man Coulter in the SS getup behind the Black "Jesus" guy?

I prefer the take on the "Last Supper" that showed Comicus the Stand-Up Philosopher in the Background.

Actually, using the Last Supper as an art device is pretty common:
http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/...es_the_outrage

I kind of like this one best:

BIG_DADDY 09-27-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
What about the nudity and stuff? If this has all been going on for years, as the article suggests, I think parents would've stopped bringing their kids. I'm not sure why children would be there anyway.

They bring their children to partake in the celebration of diversity. There is a lot of nudity and not by people who should be showing any skin either. They have S&M booths with demonstrations as well as leather booths and the like. It is very inappropriate for kids especially young children but there are lots of them up there every year. To understand why poeple do that you have to step out of the PC world for moment and take a serious look at how ****ed up in head many of these people are.

Adept Havelock 09-27-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish
Actually, using the Last Supper as an art device is pretty common:
http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/...es_the_outrage

I kind of like this one best:

:LOL:

Nice. "Me Pappy sez he'z I Yam What I Yam."

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
They bring their children to partake in the celebration of diversity. There is a lot of nudity and not by people who should be showing any skin either. They have S&M booths with demonstrations as well as leather booths and the like. It is very inappropriate for kids especially young children but there are lots of them up there every year. To understand why poeple do that you have to step out of the PC world for moment and take a serious look at how ****ed up in head many of these people are.


Agreed. If they are bringing kids to the fair they need a solid kick in the noggin or three.

Chiefnj2 09-27-2007 12:22 PM

That is some group of sponsors. I wonder what kind of products "Naked Sword" "Titan Man" and "Blow Buddies" make and if they are interested in advertising at Arrowhead.

This offensive drive is brought to you by "Blow Buddies".

BIG_DADDY 09-27-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|
Ah, thats it. This really backs up my earlier post. If religion is going to push that hard against the gay and lesbian community you are going to see it push back...mocking the last supper.


Absolute horseshit. The gay agenda will push forward irregardless. Who is pushing for gay marriage and forced acceptance from the church instead of being happy with civil unions?

Do you really think for second the agenda will end if they were accepted by the church. Come on Zach you are smarter than this. I know you like preaching the gay agenda from Zach back mountain but don't insult our intelligence.

alanm 09-27-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
We are talking California here. As long as nobody involved was smoking a cigarette, I'm sure it's allowed. :rolleyes:

They'd prolly be tazed for sure for smoking. ROFL

|Zach| 09-27-2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
Absolute horseshit. The gay agenda will push forward irregardless. Who is pushing for gay marriage and forced acceptance from the church instead of being happy with civil unions?

Do you really think for second the agenda will end if they were accepted by the church. Come on Zach you are smarter than this. I know you like preaching the gay agenda from Zach back mountain but don't insult our intelligence.

There is a constant push on the gay and lesbian community and I think this is a response to that.

You don't have to agree with me, thats fine. And I know you think people who don't agree with you are not smart, thats also fine.

I don't think anyone is forcing acceptance of the church. How could they? Churches are free to do what they like, they are private organizations. I have always seen this in spheres of influence. Nobody is trying to change a church's day to day...but the Slags of the world seem it is necessary to try and dictate all kinds of things to that community. It seems what you think they should "be happy" with is not the standard they adhere too.

Lonewolf Ed 09-27-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP
It's probably the only place they can get anyone to buy that Miller Chill crap.

I work in a liquor store, and sadly, the wimmens love it.

Chiefnj2 09-27-2007 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
Absolute horseshit. The gay agenda will push forward irregardless. Who is pushing for gay marriage and forced acceptance from the church instead of being happy with civil unions?

Do you really think for second the agenda will end if they were accepted by the church. Come on Zach you are smarter than this. I know you like preaching the gay agenda from Zach back mountain but don't insult our intelligence.

Why shouldn't they push forward when they have been oppressed for so long?

People were making a big deal this week about the President of Iran and his archaic views on homosexuality when it was only 10 years ago in the good old US of A that a major tv character finally outed herself. There was such outrage over the fact that Ellen was a lesbian the network had to place a parental warning label on the show.

Duck Dog 09-27-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
Why would anyone outside of SF care? I mean, if I lived there, I would probably be upset, but I don't. How does this possibly impact non-San Franciscans?

I also don't understand the "taxpayer" angle. The police serve protect all sorts of nutjobs while on the taxpayers' dime. I'm not sure how this is any different.


Edit:
Wait, Miller? The only people who drink Miller are homos anyway. What sort of impact are they hoping for with this campaign? Miller won't want to alienate their primary clientele.


I think it's all the talk about wanting to be taken seriously and being accepted by main stream society as being 'just like everyone else'.

Actually shit like this leads me to believe their life style is by choice.

BIG_DADDY 09-27-2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|
There is a constant push on the gay and lesbian community and I think this is a response to that.

Agreed

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|

You don't have to agree with me, thats fine. And I know you think people who don't agree with you are not smart, thats also fine.

This is a lot about nothing as I already said I think you know better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|

I don't think anyone is forcing acceptance of the church. How could they? Churches are free to do what they like, they are private organizations. I have always seen this in spheres of influence. Nobody is trying to change a church's day to day...but the Slags of the world seem it is necessary to try and dictate all kinds of things to that community. It seems what you think they should "be happy" with is not the standard they adhere too.

It's common knowledge that they have been trying to push their way into many churches and pastors have lost their jobs over it. The fact that you don't acknowledge that speaks volumes.

Marriage is a religious ceremony which changes the way we look at a couple from a legal standpoint. There needs to be a seperation of church and state here where a civil union is honored as the same thing under the eyes of our government. To say no to that and force the religious ceremony of marriage to be accepted by the church is wrong IMO and creates more problems than is solves for the gay community.

It doesn't surprise me that you don't speak out against such and event either. The parade and the exposure to the kids that is.

Iowanian 09-27-2007 01:02 PM

make the unfortunate mistake of a google image search on that "festival" and you'll accidenly see photos of Dudes BuFuing on main street. Anyone who takes a kid to that place should have them removed by DHS.


I'm sure Zach will photograph it in unique and artistic light, using the proper F stop, and angle to capture the moment for the next art s how.

BIG_DADDY 09-27-2007 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2
Why shouldn't they push forward when they have been oppressed for so long?

People were making a big deal this week about the President of Iran and his archaic views on homosexuality when it was only 10 years ago in the good old US of A that a major tv character finally outed herself. There was such outrage over the fact that Ellen was a lesbian the network had to place a parental warning label on the show.

Because the in your face way they are going about it is not servign them well them well. It creates more issues than it solves for them.

For the record I could give a rats ass what they do I just don't think the way they are going about it will eventually lead to a backlash.

Mr. Laz 09-27-2007 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG
Stephen Bennett, a former homosexual who runs a ministry for those struggling to overcome same-sex attraction disorder

that might be the stupidest thing i've ever heard.



ROFL ROFL ROFL

|Zach| 09-27-2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
make the unfortunate mistake of a google image search on that "festival" and you'll accidenly see photos of Dudes BuFuing on main street. Anyone who takes a kid to that place should have them removed by DHS.


I'm sure Zach will photograph it in unique and artistic light, using the proper F stop, and angle to capture the moment for the next art s how.

I have only covered one rally. A labor strike in NYC.

And I did capture right moment with proper F stop.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/zachishere/403157867/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/403157867_d0bcbcc61a.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Labor Rally" /></a>

Duck Dog 09-27-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|
I have only covered one rally. A labor strike in NYC.

And I did capture right moment with proper F stop.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/zachishere/403157867/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/403157867_d0bcbcc61a.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Labor Rally" /></a>


Very nice. After you snapped the pic did you yell at them to get their lazy asses back to work.


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