I'm calling out Hootie
 

For being a complete chickenshit.

Anyone else who wants to join in the call out, feel free. I'll be back around 10.

This could qualify as a repost.

Or then its just a reiteration of a known fact.

Lead on Mr Jenkins, Lead on.

I'm with you Hamas. I been saying since pre-season that Huard is not the answer to the QB situation. I just cannot understand why some people are having a hard-on on Damon Huard, who is medicore, and has no upside.

This should be interesting.

keep ****ing doubting Hooooootie.

Shhhhh!

Don't feed the attention whore.

the entire team played poorly...

This wasn't on Huard.

This is on Solari, the offensive line, LJ, etc...

WTF do you expect when we rush for 9 total yards?

Are you kidding? NINE YARDS RUSHING AND YOU EXPECT THE CHIEFS TO WIN WITH HUARD AT QB?

And besides, even when Croyle got in it's not like he played any better...

He looked JUST as timid and was throwing the same quick passes that everyone hates Huard throwing...

He lead the Chiefs on a meaningless touchdown drive when the Jags were blitzing four guys...

Someone explain to me how you think Croyle would've faired today with 9 friggin' rushing yards between LJ and Bennett...

You think the Chiefs would've won with Croyle?

If so, you're a ****ing idiot.

The Jags are a good ****ing team, that's all I know.

not near enough caps...
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Solari called a TERRIBLE game.

Probably the worst called game offensively I've ever seen.

And our defense didn't help our offense in ANY way in the first half, allowing the Jaguars to pick up 3rd and long after 3rd and long having long drives keeping our offense waiting on the sidelines...

Overall, it was a HORRIBLE team effort and I wish our BYE week was coming up next week, but it isn't, so the coaching staff needs to figure things out, and they either need to fire Solari or tell him to FIX THE ****ING RUNNING GAME...

Defensively, we can't allow a team like the Jaguars to convert 3rd and longs...

That was ridiculous.

And Ty Law was Garrard's BITCH today...even MJD's long run was because Law didn't fill his gap. What an overrated POS he is...

Our defense is WAAAAAY overrated. Has been since week 1.

Sort of reinforces the "chickenshit" label.

I thought we had 10 yards rushing. Didnt Law have two solo tackles in the first half both for losses?

Didnt Huard play the entire game except the 4 plays when we scored a TD? Damn the facts, full steam ahead!!

Fueled by stupidity ignorance has no limits!

I totally disagree.

We're a bend don't break type defense, so occasionally 18 play drives are just going to happen...

We've been weak against the run all year, everyone knew that...but outside of one big run it wasn't too bad...

We have a solid, top 10 defense that had an off week in terms of allowing 3rd down conversions...

That won't happen every week...Garrard was making those 3rd and 15's look easy in the first half...but once again, when Gunther finally started throwing sick blitzes his way, Garrard was noticeably shaken and was underthrowing everyone...

That long pass in the 4th quarter was really nothing more than the Chiefs having to take dumb risks to try and spark the offense...

17 points. 7 of which was off of a turnover from your boy. The loss cannot be hung on the D. If our O cannot muster 17 points at home, they deserve to lose.

You are probably right about the bend don't break defense. But after 5 weeks, I don't think we are a top 5 defense.

Its all about the points given up. I don't give a rats ass about yards. If we had any kind of offense, we'd be 5-0.

More often than not, we are not going to get 17 points.

Huard didn't play bad...

Huard threw the ball downfield.

With no rushing attack against a solid defense, the play-action pass is only going to work for so long.

Law played TOTALLY awful.

Huard has an inept offensive coordinator.

AND

Are you truly going to cite that last play touchdown in your post?

Croyle was throwing the ball against four man fronts...whooopdeedoo...

He looked WAY MORE TIMID than Huard did...and he was throwing THE SAME QUICK PASSES Huard does...

When Croyle takes over the team, IF Croyle takes over the team, you're all setting yourselves up for a big disappointment.

Croyle makes his read before he even snaps the ball...you don't think defenses are going to pick up on this and 'bate' him into making the stupid pass?

that your boy couldn't have made...try pulling something else out of that cumbucket you call your asshole.
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Basically, everyone but Huard. He played like a pro-bowler today!

:stupid:

We are giving up 17 points a game while scoring 12.

I'm behind you Hootie. Don't let the man get you down.

'7 of which was off of a turnover from your boy'...

Yeah...

No.

He threw a pick when we were down 0-17...and the game was over.

I know everyone hates Huard on this board, but putting this loss on his shoulders is a ****ing joke. It's sickening, really...

We have a horrible playcalling coordinator, a terrible running game, a right tackle who cannot pass protect or run block, a center who gets manhandled every game, a right-guard who is in dire need of his roid supply, yet, we're going to blame the loss on Damon Huard??

You're right, because with our offense BUILT around LJ who wasn't even getting a yard per carry it's still going to be Damon Huard's fault...

At least Damon was moving the ball when they were calling passing plays...Solari was ****ing it up by even trying to run. We should've kept using the play-action until Jacksonville had an answer for it, instead Solari ****ed it up by even TRYING to run...there wasn't a single running lane created by our ridiculously awful offensive line the entire game.

LJ should just ****ing go on his inevitable rant RIGHT NOW, because I think it's due. **** Solari, **** the offensive line...I want to hear from LJ.

Croyle gets rid of the ball 3 gazillion times faaster than Huard, and didn't freak in the pocket either. His td pass still had enough behind it even though he was hit. But I don't know how we're going to run the ball.

The O is inefffective with Huard. Its time to try something different.

It wasn't on Huard or Tony Gonzalez, that's for sure. Those are the only two who showed up today...

Thanks for playing, "I know jack shit about football".

Hooties getting his supply from Travis whatshisdopedealer in Denver.

Didn't freak in the pocket?! Oh man, it's amazing what people see during the game...

He makes his read before he snaps the ball...the dude was playing the SAME WAY Huard plays, except WAY less accurate...and he wasn't facing blitzing linebackers or safeties...

His TD pass was totally, 100% meaningless. The game was over. Huard is a better QB for our inept offense than Croyle...if it's going to take a game or two of Croyle to see this, so be it.

well let's see how good Brodie Croyle is with our 9 total yards of rushing!

I'm sure most QB's in the NFL would've lined up behind center for us and lead us to victory with that power rushing attack we have!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Um....I would prefer to see Croyle play, but you can't pin this on Huard. Our line sucks, Solari sucks...and we played a fairly good team. With no running game what so ever....we will be bad. Not JUST Huards fault.

Do you ever stop to think that teams put 8-9 men in the box to stop the run because they don't respect Huard?

BRILLIANT!

I hope we will see. We need to know one way or the other. I have never said once, that Croyle is gonna be a great QB. I have just wanted him to get a shot.

Damon Huard curling up scared during blitzes.

Gee... I wonder why the Jags blitzed us on every third down. :hmmm:

Some QB's hang in there and beat it, some dump it short like chickens even when it's picked up, and some curl into the fetal position, lay down and wait to be 'tackled'. Sounds like Damon is the last option on this one.

Damon slings the ball short of the first down on EVERY third down. He's a vet.. throw it past the sticks for christ sakes!

Huard has clearly proven he's not starting material. Here's the "relevant" data:

97-149 (65.1%) for 1029 yards (6.90 ypa/10.61 ypc) , 4 TD and 6 INT.

Clearly not starting material...

...unless you're happy with a 3200 yard, 13 TD, 19 INT quarterback, which is what Huard projects out to be.

except they weren't putting 8-9 men in the box today...

I been saying that the whole time, my friend. They are stacking the box, becuase they do not respect the passing game nor Damon Huard.

how do you blitz four guys? :spock:

I agree not to pin this loss on any one person, and I'm not down on Huard when we can't even muster 40 yrds rushing. That having been said, Huard isn't even close to Croyle in terms of quick release, accuracey, and arm strength. It isn't even close IMO

Oh and the Jags did not want us to score, they by no means gave that to us. That offense works better with Huard. again IMO

I think Jacksonville is just REALLY good...

We were out-coached, plain and simple.

Fortunately, as a Chiefs fan, I look at the AFC West and see:

Oakland 2-2
KC 2-3
San Diego 2-3
Denver 2-3

so you guys can give up hope, but I will not...

Hootie's making sense.

It ain't on Huard this time around. But if we're going to play this poorly, I think we should go with Croyle anyway.

LMAO

DO NOT QUESTION THE FOOTBALL GENIUS THAT IS HOOTIE

Excuse me, I really misstyped I mean the this offense works better with Croyle.

Croyle was making the same throws Huard did...

Watching Croyle play in the 4th made it quite apparent you can only do so much with the play-calling...

Shit, Croyle WAS getting rid of it faster than Huard...the play was called, Croyle decided who he was going to throw the ball to before they even broke the huddle, snap, two steps, boom, THROW...

He's not going to play better than Huard. Not even close. Every QB in the NFL would've lost this game to the Jags when you consider the fact we had...9 RUSHING YARDS

I could agree with this, give Croyle a 2 game try-out, and see if the offense responds...

If not, **** him...we could fall to 2-5 and still be in the hunt with this division...even though San Diego proved today that they aren't ****ing around any longer...

Are you f'ing kidding me? You are a poor excuse for a football fan...

Yeah, Croyle was throwing against 4 man fronts, who also happened to be getting pressure. That also mean he was throwing against SEVEN DBs ,yet he completed pass after pass, including a TD. Remind me again how many TD passes Huard had today...

Let's not forget that our best playmaker at the moment, Dwayne Bowe, went almost entirely un-utilized by Huard. That's inexcusable.

I really can't stop laughing about "He looked WAY MORE TIMID than Huard did" - that could possibly be the single most ludicrous thing I've read on the internet this year. He was comfortable, poised, and in control. He was very calm in the pocket - he stepped up when pressure dictated, actually went through a full progression of reads, and made quick decisions. He showed the ability to get out of the pocket when needed, and threw a great pass, on the run, 35 yards downfield, against a defense designed to protect the sideline. Huard couldn't dream of making that throw.

Almost as ludicrous is "Croyle makes his read before he even snaps the ball". This is actual proof that you know nothing about football - that is Damon Huard in a nutshell. Why do you think he gets so many balls batted down at the LOS?

You truly are clueless. Your unfounded pro-Huardism has gone beyond laughable, and landed firmly in "sad" territory. I almost feel sorry for you. Almost.

[QUOTE=Hootie]I think Jacksonville is just FAIRLY good...

We were out-coached, plain and simple.

[QUOTE]

FYP

I don't know why people think Croyle is more accurate than Huard...

From what we saw today, his passes were sailing...but he does have a friggin' cannon.

Still, I think opposing coaches could gameplan against Croyle's 1 read mindset and we could see Croyle have Ryan Leaf type games ESPECIALLY when we can't run the friggin' ball.

I give points to Hootie for being able to maintain the consistant comment style he has on this thread. He is clearly out of his HootiePatootie, but the mans a master at slinging that which he knows zero about and proves that seeing a football game is not the same as understanding the game.

So rootie tootie HootiePatootie. Hang in there. The storm of bad rep you may create shall be that of legend.

Oh...Damon called and said you left your sock under the couch.

As for Hooties boy-toy Damon Huard, I'm personally tired of him consistantly not going through his progressions and dumping it off to the FB/HB all the time. His passes are rarely accurate. Bowe and Gonzalez both had to make great plays just to catch the damn ball. Huard threw two passes that I saw that were good, accurate passes which were clearly to our players and not the defense.

My Vote was for Croyle. Not some limp noodle arm, that can't handle pressure.

I have news for you. Huard will never get any respect from me. He throws inaccurately, he fumbles too much, and makes piss-poor reads. Those are not good things to have in a QB. The young guy can perform five yard patterns to his check down guy, I have no doubts of it.

And I have said all along since the beginning of the season, Huard will have more INT's than TD's. That seems to be proving me correct. There's a reason why he was a 3rd stringer at one point in New England.

So, that being said, get your face off of Damon's cock, and open your ****ing eyes, and try to at least understand why Damon sucks, period. JFC, I'd rather have Jake Plummer over Damon Huard, and even that's not much of a improvement.

QB's always tear up defenses in prevent...all the time. The TD pass was meaningless...the Jaguars had already won. Whoopdeedoo...

Everyone was waiting for the Chiefs to lose so they could blame it all on Damon Huard.

It wasn't on Damon today...that's for sure.

I knew what you meant...
:)

Then you haven't read Claytons posts......

His passes were sailing becuase he was throwing the ball away. The one thing you should look for is the one where he made a nice escape from the rush and the throw to Bowe.

That's the kind of moves that Horrid can't do.

Opposing coaches are already gameplanning aganist Horrid's 1 read mindset too as well. What's the difference anyways?

Croyle's 1 trick pony?

Have you watched Huard at all? He can't throw a pass to the flat for Chocolate Jesus sake. Hell, he telegraphs his passes enough that Sammy Knight almost rode his rascal scooter over for a pic.

If it weren't for circus catches by 82 and 88.......and negative yardage passes to the back and bigfoot....his numbers would be lower a raider fan's reading level.

what about the ball Croyle threw that was batted into the end zone...

On replay, he was throwing that right to LJ who was blanketed by a defensive guy, shit, LJ wasn't even looking for the ball...

If Croyle's play today sold you on the fact he is a better QB than Damon Huard...then, yikes! Because, really...he's going to struggle and have a LOT of turnovers...

You are stupid, infinity.

You can use that prevent defense excuse all you want, but it is what it is - Brodie can't control the situation he's given. Twice, Croyle has come in to relieve an "injured" Huard. Twice, Croyle has moved the team at will. Twice, the entire offense seemed to come alive with Croyle in the huddle.

Let's not forget that Croyle drove the team to a TD today. Once you're in the red zone, there is no more "prevent" - the defense has run out of field. He completed a long pass, on the run, at the sideline - which the "prevent" is designed to prevent. He scored a TD against 7 DBs. Writing off what he did today "because of prevent defense" is incredibly short-sighted.

Well...

Neither Huard or Croyle are going to win many games with our rushing attack...

Our team is suppose to be built around LJ, and when LJ is getting 9 carries for 12 yards we have some MAJOR problems that are not QB related...

Twice, Croyle played when the game was already over...

Even after today, the horrible running, the terrible blocking, Ty Law eating a sandwich during plays, completely being dominated....

...we're a 1/2 game out of first.

Gotta love the West. LMAO

WHAT ****ING DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF YOU ARE GONNA PLAY A 34 YEAR OLD QB THAT STRUGGLES? Dipshit...

Then you'll surely agree it makes no sense to waste the opportunities to find out if Croyle has the tools and mental toughness and decision making to be an NFL starting QB.

none of this changes the fact that Hamas is a bigger dickbag than you, even if lumping in the Huard Dumbf@ckary.

Think of it this way. If that was Horrid there, that ball more than likely would had been intercepted, becuase of the arm strength.

I'll give you that LJ was being blanketed by a defensive player, but really, two things stands out. Is LJ really wanting to "play?" Another one is what do you think Curlaid and Hermroid have been beating into his head every week? If Croyle ends being no good...it's gonna be because of the way he was coached. That is to throw on the flats at all cost.

Nobody's gonna buy tickets just to watch Damon Horrid, Hootie, I can assure you of that. I know I wouldn't be. I would however, buy tickets to watch Brodie play. I'm all for a 5-11 season if it means that Brodie gets experience. Denver didn't do too hot at the end of the season when Cutler replaced Plummer, but that will pay off for them in the long run.

I already knew and accepted the fact that Croyle probably will struggle and get alot of turnovers, but really, is it any different than Damon Horrid right now?

Of course QBs tear up defenses in prevent, which is exactly what Croyle did, and what any good QB is expected to do. He can't control the situation he's given, he can only take advantage of that situation. It's laughable that you're trying to turn that into a negative.

Once you're in the red zone, things change, especially against a defense trying to preserve a shutout. You now have 7 DBs within 20 yards of the LOS. Completing passes against that is very difficult, especially TD passes. If you think the Jags weren't giving it their all, trying to preserve the shutout, then you've obviously never played football. Shutouts are a huge deal to a defense, and they will work VERY hard to maintain it.

The TD was far from meaningless. It prevented a shutout, and offered yet more proof that Croyle should be leading this team, not Huard.

I can see how you would consider it meaningless, though. After all, it does suck to have your life's work discredited time after time after time...

My only argument is, we're 1/2 game out of first to the Raiders, who aren't going to win our division...

If Croyle is going to turn the ball over 5 times a game, I rather stick with Huard...

Huard didn't play bad today. Of course everyone on this board is going to place the blame squarely on his shoulders, but that's because of their vendetta against the guy...

The center and the right side of the line were awful, Huard delivered a lot of good passes in the face of pressure SEVERAL times...

The fact of the matter is, we faced a Jags defense that is one of the best defenses in the NFL, and LJ ran for 11 or 12 yards...

How are we going to win games when we can't run the ball? We don't have Manning or Brady, we don't have a QB on our roster that will win us games...not Huard, not Croyle...it's not going to happen...

We need a rushing attack, plain and simple...personally, I'd rather stick with Huard because Croyle is in a lose-lose situation until we find a way to run the ball.

Gotta be honest with you though... Throws like this scare the dickens out of me!

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/...57885nl024.jpg

Not to mention Croyle looked at the left corner of the field before finding Parker in the right corner. You could see his head swivel. You never see that with Huard. And opposing D's will have to respect Croyle because of his arm strength and the safeties can not creep up like they do with Huard. That will allow the running lanes to open up. Lots of good things start happening with a competent QB.

Dude, at least credit me if you're going to steal my post...

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...63#post4277963

Have you seen Cutler play?!?!?! He's BETTER than Brodie, he's the SAME TYPE of player as Brodie, and he's awful. They lost 41-3 AT home...

Jay Cutler isn't that good...he's a gunslinger with a passive attitude, just like Brodie Croyle.

And I'm never up for a 5-11 season when we have a 9 or 10 win team. That's stupid.

You do realize it was raining, right?

I'm not going to put all the blame on Huard. He deserves some of it, but the entire team played like ass today.

I haven't had a problem with Damon being in there until today. It's time to get Croyle in there and see what he can do.

Uhm...

It was totally, 1,000% meaningless.

Damon hasn't lost the job yet, IMO...

Oh Hootie can it, with this offensive line we are not winning anything signficant so we might as well find out what Croyle can do.

Problem is, Croyle haven't thrown an INT thus far, so why not give him a chance. Again, Huards' QB rating for today was a 68. That isn't very good. Also his decision making has been very poor. Really, his throws to Larry Johnson or Kris Wilson is really annoying, especially out to the flat. It's a no wonder why we're struggling.

Jaguar Defense was 28th in the NFL on rush defense before coming into town. Gee, wonder how they did that, only giving up 10 yards rushing? Ah, probably becuase they do not respect the passing game enough, along with the fact that they know that Damon is gonna be tossing it on the flats.

Huard is no position to help the Chiefs in the long run, especially in the QB position, and the franchise future. Why are the Chiefs drafting QB's for, if they have no intent to play them?

Oh, rate me now...please?? Do I rate with either of them??? Oh, and is it "The Iowanian" scale, or the "Dickbag" scale?

Thank you for proving my point...

Not if there were Jaguar starters on the defense on the field. It's not all meaningless. Brodie has proved what he could do, if given the chance.

He deserves to be rewarded for that.

So, how many times has Croyle turned the ball over in his 17 pass attempts this season?

HOOTIE OUT

I'm going to watch the Bears game...I don't really feel like debating this right now.

I'm a Chiefs fan, this loss sucked...I don't care about Huard or Croyle or LJ...I was hoping we'd be 3-2...

Correction. Tony G and D-Bowe only showed up today.


Huard made some horrible passes. D-Bowe caught 1 badly thrown pass and almost another badly thrown pass.


Huard is very very very inconsistant and very very very inaccurate.