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chiefsfan1963 10-09-2007 10:56 AM

My prediction is that Solari will be canned at the end of the season.
 
To keep the focus off Herm and CP and his entire Front Office.

chagrin 10-09-2007 10:57 AM

good

StcChief 10-09-2007 10:58 AM

he may not got long with his play calling and lack of adjustment

Wile_E_Coyote 10-09-2007 11:04 AM

Norv should be available

mikeyis4dcats. 10-09-2007 11:06 AM

I'd be fine with that as a stop-gap measure

Brock 10-09-2007 11:17 AM

Only 2 years too late.

petegz28 10-09-2007 11:19 AM

Solari never should of been picked in the first place.

Brock 10-09-2007 11:22 AM

Welcome back the great Jimmy Raye. Or maybe Joe Pendry.

:clap:

MTG#10 10-09-2007 11:24 AM

Of course he will. Herm wont take the blame for anything.

SLAG 10-09-2007 11:25 AM

Paul Hackett?

kaplin42 10-09-2007 11:26 AM

This is where I get a little iffy.

Back with Saunders, Solari was calling a lot of the run plays, and generaly did a great job. Is the problem really solari, or is it Herm, handcuffing the O coordinator because Herm wants to run a certain style of offense?

Either way, I believe you will be right, and Solari will be lucky if he makes it to the offseason.

Wile_E_Coyote 10-09-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42
This is where I get a little iffy.

Back with Saunders, Solari was calling a lot of the run plays, and generaly did a great job. Is the problem really solari, or is it Herm, handcuffing the O coordinator because Herm wants to run a certain style of offense?

Either way, I believe you will be right, and Solari will be lucky if he makes it to the offseason.

I heard that Solari was in charge of goal line situations, under DV

ceebz 10-09-2007 11:38 AM

If the offense doesn't improve drastically, I predict the Chiefs will make a change as soon as the bye week.

When you have TG, LJ, D-Bo, Waters and made what you feel is a major improvement at LT, there's no excuse for being next to last in scoring offense.

Herm and Carl will have no choice other than to make Solari the scapegoat.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-09-2007 11:44 AM

Someone sucks. I don't know if it's Herm or Solari but someone sucks!

kaplin42 10-09-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer
Someone sucks. I don't know if it's Herm or Solari but someone sucks!

ROFL

The Bad Guy 10-09-2007 11:49 AM

If the guy isn't canned, then I have zero hope for any of our offensive young starters like Bowe, Croyle that they will develop into anything in this league. If Norv is fired, he can come over here. The guy can't be an HC, but he's a brilliant OC - just look at what he did with the 49ers.

FringeNC 10-09-2007 11:50 AM

Dick Curl, Offensive Coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.

MTG#10 10-09-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Dick Curl, Offensive Coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.

:Lin:

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-09-2007 11:54 AM

Norv is not the answer. I think what the Chiefs should really consider is to take advice from the members of chiefs planet. We can see a hell of a lot more than any of those dumbass coaches. We could appoint GoChiefs as our spokesman and call plays online.

RedandGold 10-09-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC
Dick Curl, Offensive Coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.

If we make a move mid-season, that's exactly who we'll get...

Rasputin 10-09-2007 11:56 AM

I think Brodie is going to make Solari look like a genious. All it takes is exicution, but of course I could be wrong.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-09-2007 11:58 AM

I'm all for exicuting Solari.

Deberg_1990 10-09-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
The guy can't be an HC, but he's a brilliant OC - just look at what he did with the 49ers.


Agreed. Hes was about the only guy to ever get decent production out of Ricky Williams. Hes pretty brilliant with the run game.

Emmit Smith
Stephen Davis
Ricky Williams
Tomlinson
Frank Gore

Quite a track record there...

StcChief 10-09-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer
Norv is not the answer. I think what the Chiefs should really consider is to take advice from the members of chiefs planet. We can see a hell of a lot more than any of those dumbass coaches. We could appoint GoChiefs as our spokesman and call plays online.

KC leverages the internet as fans vote for the next play ROFL

FringeNC 10-09-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedandGold
If we make a move mid-season, that's exactly who we'll get...

I'm not convinced that Dick Curl isn't effectively ALREADY the OC. Solari started out last year running the same offense as he inherited. He was chewed out publicly by Herm Edwards during the preseason for a turnover, and it wasn't long until the Vermeil - Saunders offense was mothballed. Furthermore, the QB coach who knew that offense, Terry Shea, was shit-canned for Dick Curl. Herm demanded further simplifications. Trent Green was told he was no longer wanted.

Make no mistake -- Herm Edwards and Dick Curl are running this offense, and Solari is simply around to serve as fodder to throw under the bus.

Bowser 10-09-2007 12:04 PM

Hindsight's a bitch. Solari should have stayed on as O-Line coach, and Charlie Joiner should be our offensive coordinator right now.

If Dick Curl gets promoted to O-Coordinator, I will find a new team to cheer.


And I'll second Bad Guy's notion of getting Norv Turner in here. He would work wonders with the young up-and-comers on offense.

Sure-Oz 10-09-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
If the guy isn't canned, then I have zero hope for any of our offensive young starters like Bowe, Croyle that they will develop into anything in this league. If Norv is fired, he can come over here. The guy can't be an HC, but he's a brilliant OC - just look at what he did with the 49ers.

He's definetly not a motivator and continues to fail as a HC, i'd love to have him as OC, since that is what he does best.

RustShack 10-09-2007 12:15 PM

I would love to see Dick Curl leave, but don't see it happening.

RealSNR 10-09-2007 12:25 PM

Let's hope the Rams keep sucking. Scott Linnehan, anybody?

Rooster 10-09-2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC
Dick Curl, Offensive Coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.

NOOOOO!!!! Don't even think it. :banghead:

sedated 10-09-2007 12:31 PM

Doesn't matter who the O-Coordinator is, as long as Herm is holding the handcuffs.

Just like when Vermeil was the coach and didn't give anything to the D.

ChiefsCountry 10-09-2007 12:34 PM

I think the biggest problem is the offensive line coach. He sucked in St. Louis, yet we hired him. Solari to be fair has been given a half deck of cards IMO. He dont have the superstar line, he had Huard and a Trent Green that was a woozy, and all of the expectations of the previous regime. Not to meniton Herm's love to play it safe moto. I've seen flashes under Solari where the offensive looks good, I'll wait to reserve judgement until after the season espeically with Brodie in there. They seem to change their stragety completely with him in the ballgame.

kaplin42 10-09-2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
I think the biggest problem is the offensive line coach. He sucked in St. Louis, yet we hired him. Solari to be fair has been given a half deck of cards IMO. He dont have the superstar line, he had Huard and a Trent Green that was a woozy, and all of the expectations of the previous regime. Not to meniton Herm's love to play it safe moto. I've seen flashes under Solari where the offensive looks good, I'll wait to reserve judgement until after the season espeically with Brodie in there. They seem to change their stragety completely with him in the ballgame.

Thats because the game is lost completely so they put him in and let him throw dowfield just to get him some game XP. Not because the strategy changes with him.

ChiefsCountry 10-09-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42
Thats because the game is lost completely so they put him in and let him throw dowfield just to get him some game XP. Not because the strategy changes with him.

No it was different in preseason. Also last year with Green is was pretty obvious as well.

Valiant 10-09-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz
If the offense doesn't improve drastically, I predict the Chiefs will make a change as soon as the bye week.

When you have TG, LJ, D-Bo, Waters and made what you feel is a major improvement at LT, there's no excuse for being next to last in scoring offense.

Herm and Carl will have no choice other than to make Solari the scapegoat.


You got it on the end.. Solari is calling the offense Herm wants to run.. But Herm will not take fault in it and pass it off on someone else.. He would be a good corporate manager..

Extra Point 10-09-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant
You got it on the end.. Solari is calling the offense Herm wants to run.. But Herm will not take fault in it and pass it off on someone else.. He would be a good corporate manager..

To use a few words from Herm Edwards' pressers:

Obviously, at the end of the day, you know you have to take a strong look at that. Obviously.

MOhillbilly 10-09-2007 01:55 PM

Gunther should kick rocks aswell.

chiefsfan1963 10-09-2007 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
If the guy isn't canned, then I have zero hope for any of our offensive young starters like Bowe, Croyle that they will develop into anything in this league. If Norv is fired, he can come over here. The guy can't be an HC, but he's a brilliant OC - just look at what he did with the 49ers.


Norv is staying put as HC. Chargers are going to the playoffs and possibly the AFC Championship game this year. You don't fire someone in their first year that accomplishes this.

chiefsfan1963 10-09-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer
I'm all for exicuting Solari.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

chiefsfan1963 10-09-2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack
I would love to see Dick Curl leave, but don't see it happening.

along with the rest of the Coaching staff and Front Office!

chiefsfan1963 10-09-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
I think the biggest problem is the offensive line coach. He sucked in St. Louis, yet we hired him. Solari to be fair has been given a half deck of cards IMO. He dont have the superstar line, he had Huard and a Trent Green that was a woozy, and all of the expectations of the previous regime. Not to meniton Herm's love to play it safe moto. I've seen flashes under Solari where the offensive looks good, I'll wait to reserve judgement until after the season espeically with Brodie in there. They seem to change their stragety completely with him in the ballgame.

This may be true, but my main point on Solari being let go is that it will be a distraction to the main problem Herm, CP and rest of his Front Office.

Change is overdue. The only person to rectify this is Clark which based on his relationship with CP is not going to happen.

DaWolf 10-09-2007 02:22 PM

The OL coach needs to go too. If Solari wants to be demoted back to OL coach, I'm all for it.

Problem is Herm will probably want to bring back Hackett...

mikeyis4dcats. 10-09-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
I heard that Solari was in charge of goal line situations, under DV

have we been in a goal line situation this year?

MOhillbilly 10-09-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf
The OL coach needs to go too. If Solari wants to be demoted back to OL coach, I'm all for it.

Problem is Herm will probably want to bring back Hackett...

im not sure you can demote within your own org.

DaWolf 10-09-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly
im not sure you can demote within your own org.

A couple of teams have done it, most recently the Cardinals under Denny Green demoted an OC I believe.

Then again, you saw what happened to the Cardinals under Denny Green...

MahiMike 10-09-2007 02:39 PM

Make LJ the coordinator. He can call the play right in the huddle and save some $$$.

MOhillbilly 10-09-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf
A couple of teams have done it, most recently the Cardinals under Denny Green demoted an OC I believe.

Then again, you saw what happened to the Cardinals under Denny Green...

i thought thats why teams started coming up w/ diffrent handles for coaches. instead of OC/DC they now put assistant head coach defense ect?
Dont know but maybe they did that to joe bugel in DC when saunders came in.

keg in kc 10-09-2007 02:44 PM

Boy, that's going out on a limb.


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