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teedubya 11-04-2007 10:26 PM

I Blame this Loss on Jeff Webb. Drag your damn feet.
 
That play stole our momentum. Im still pissed that Sippio hasn't been activated and Jeff Webb and Parker get so much playing time.

Anyway, WTF was that? Drag your feet, idiot.

Sure-Oz 11-04-2007 10:27 PM

Sippio would've dragged his feet

BigRock 11-04-2007 10:27 PM

Sippio would have hopped on one foot to the endzone while stiff-arming the entire Packers defense with his pinky.

blueballs 11-04-2007 10:29 PM

Sippio can throw the ball and catch it too
that would not be good to show up the QB now

Tits McGee 11-04-2007 10:30 PM

There was a ref. 5 feet in front of the play and in perfect position to make a call, and he calls it a catch.
Replay, white shoes on a white line? WTF???

blueballs 11-04-2007 10:33 PM

of course the throw was perfect

FloridaMan88 11-04-2007 10:34 PM

Perhaps the Chiefs should have realized that it was a close call and gotten another play off quickly

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-04-2007 11:06 PM

Sippio would have scored on the play, and then driven an ice cream truck adorned with human skulls around the perimeter of the field as his end zone celebration.

HemiEd 11-04-2007 11:09 PM

Huard is to blame.

L.A. Chieffan 11-04-2007 11:10 PM

A smart OC would've called a quick play so the dumbasses in the booth couldn't look at the replay 50 times

KcMizzou 11-04-2007 11:11 PM

You're blaming Webb?

Don't be a pussy.


Beaker.

Buehler445 11-04-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Perhaps the Chiefs should have realized that it was a close call and gotten another play off quickly

I was screaming such at the TV.

TEX 11-04-2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Perhaps the Chiefs should have realized that it was a close call and gotten another play off quickly

Yep. Especially since Webb has done this sort of thing in the past.

MadMax 11-04-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Sippio would have scored on the play, and then driven an ice cream truck adorned with human skulls around the perimeter of the field as his end zone celebration.


and that is why he is such a beloved figure in KC, Damnit Bobby! :)

chiefbowe82 11-04-2007 11:37 PM

the chiefs could have got a play off mccarthy had no idea it was not a catch, until finally someone came over and told him and he jumped up about 3 feet in the air grab the challenge flag looked furiously for a official and threw it his way

Direckshun 11-04-2007 11:39 PM

Just like every one of our losses, Huard and the do-nothing OL are to blame.

ChiefsCountry 11-04-2007 11:39 PM

I thought it was Favre yelling at McCarthy to challenge it.

Hootie 11-05-2007 12:47 AM

everyone is REALLY pretty stupid if they think that play wouldn't have been challenged regardless...they could've SPRINTED to the line and snapped the ball in record time and that red flag STILL would've hit the field before they were able to get a play off.

Nelson Muntz 11-05-2007 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
everyone is REALLY pretty stupid if they think that play wouldn't have been challenged regardless...they could've SPRINTED to the line and snapped the ball in record time and that red flag STILL would've hit the field before they were able to get a play off.

Which is why the red flag was thrown at almost the last second.

ILChief 11-05-2007 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan
A smart OC would've called a quick play so the dumbasses in the booth couldn't look at the replay 50 times

or a saavy veteran QB would have gotten everyone together quickly..........oh wait

kepp 11-05-2007 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
everyone is REALLY pretty stupid if they think that play wouldn't have been challenged regardless...they could've SPRINTED to the line and snapped the ball in record time and that red flag STILL would've hit the field before they were able to get a play off.

It took most of the play clock for McCarthy to get the flag thrown.

Of course, we wouldn't need to be talking about this if Webb would've drug his feet and fell out of bounds instead of trying to maintain his balance and not fall.

Extra Point 11-05-2007 08:10 AM

Webb-footed OOB wasn't the killer of this game. Running the ball up the O-Line's arses was. Forget establishing the run. Establish the hole in the zone, which is exactly what Favre does best. Off-tackle running and inside passes did it for GB. Lesson learned, I hope, week after week, but there's no memory in the play calling.

Molitoth 11-05-2007 08:15 AM

I do agree that Webb should've dragged his feet. He did a great job of it the last couple games..

Rausch 11-05-2007 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief
or a saavy veteran QB would have gotten everyone together quickly..........oh wait

I can't believe the coaching staff wasn't screaming in his ear to hurry up and run a play.

:shake:

Baby Lee 11-05-2007 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp
It took most of the play clock for McCarthy to get the flag thrown.

Yeah, a good 20 seconds into the playclock McCarthy was strolling along in his own world, when some assistant came up and yelled in his ear, and he immediately reached for the flag.
The assessment would not have reached the sidelines fast enough if they'd pulled a hurry up.

teedubya 11-05-2007 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
You're blaming Webb?

Don't be a pussy.


Beaker.

It killed momentum, MUron.

Brock 11-05-2007 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Yeah, a good 20 seconds into the playclock McCarthy was strolling along in his own world, when some assistant came up and yelled in his ear, and he immediately reached for the flag.
The assessment would not have reached the sidelines fast enough if they'd pulled a hurry up.

Fact. Our team is controlled by dummies.

Frankie 11-05-2007 09:58 AM

At the risk of being redundant I'll repost what I posted in the thread "WRs:"

"If you had the game recorded, watch that catch. Look at his left foot. He twisted his left foot. In order to have his balance and control, he needed to plant the left foot correctly. Wasn't his fault."

Mr. Laz 11-05-2007 11:30 AM

shit .... would Webb even be on the team if he wasn't friends with Herm's son?


how many times has Webb "forgotten" to drag his feet?


or fumbled?
or dropped a pass?
or gotten a dumb penalty?

beach tribe 11-05-2007 11:35 AM

He made NO EFFORT whatsoever to drag his damn feet.

xbarretx 11-05-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Perhaps the Chiefs should have realized that it was a close call and gotten another play off quickly

QFT~!!!!!!!! that make me soo mad....cursing at my TV. HURRY THE #$%#$%#^$%^#$&$%&$%&$^&$ @#$%@#$%@#$%#@$% #@$%#@$%#@$%@#$%@#$% %^$@#^$%^&%$^%^#$^ up! :(

Mr. Laz 11-05-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xbarretx
QFT~!!!!!!!! that make me soo mad....cursing at my TV. HURRY THE #$%#$%#^$%^#$&$%&$%&$^&$ @#$%@#$%@#$%#@$% #@$%#@$%#@$%@#$%@#$% %^$@#^$%^&%$^%^#$^ up! :(

the Chiefs coaching staff has no idea what to do when it comes to clock/replay management.

gta0012 11-05-2007 11:49 AM

Its on the coaches and the QB not the WR.

God Webb made 1 good catch but made a TINY, i wouldn't call it mistake, he tried to make a play and couldn't drag his foot.

Huard makes 100000 bad decisions yet its Webb's and the Defenses fault...BULL SHIT!!!!!

Frazod 11-05-2007 11:51 AM

It might have helped if we had actually started playing offense PRIOR TO THE FOURTH fuckING QUARTER.

:cuss:

stevieray 11-05-2007 11:55 AM

It was a blown opportunity to seal the game...what did Webb do after the catch? Showboated about a moot reception.

Mr. Laz 11-05-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gta0012
Its on the coaches and the QB not the WR.

God Webb made 1 good catch but made a TINY, i wouldn't call it mistake, he tried to make a play and couldn't drag his foot.

Huard makes 100000 bad decisions yet its Webb's and the Defenses fault...BULL SHIT!!!!!

while i agree with your frustration ..... Webb didn't even seem to realize he needed to draft his foot.


not the first time he's done it either


it's like he so busy trying to look casual and smooth when making a catch that he doesn't even worry about his feet.

ChiefsCountry 11-05-2007 12:08 PM

As a former WR, where the hell your feet are is the last thing you worry about.

Molitoth 11-05-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
As a former WR, where the hell your feet are is the last thing you worry about.

As a former WR, I will disagree with that.

ChiefsCountry 11-05-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth
As a former WR, I will disagree with that.

Catch ball first then your feet. Thats about it as a WR.

Mr. Laz 11-05-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth
As a former WR, I will disagree with that.

ditto

Deberg_1990 11-05-2007 12:24 PM

Theres too many things wrong with this team to just blame one guy. Lets be real..

Why does the offense like to wait 3 quarters before kicking it into gear?

Why did Rayner have to kick it out of bounds?

Why did the secondary get burned so bad?

Why does Huard look so awful when his primary reciever is covered and the pocket breaks down?

Where was Bowe yesterday?

Either way, we are what we are. We got beat by a better team yesterday.

beach tribe 11-05-2007 12:30 PM

Just watched it. His RIGHT foot is to the LEFT of his body.....No Effort.

Frankie 11-05-2007 12:34 PM

I can't believe you guys are still discussing this topic! The whole thing is moot. Just look at the footage as I suggested. Webb had no control of his right foot when it came down.

BWillie 11-05-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe
Just watched it. His RIGHT foot is to the LEFT of his body.....No Effort.

Yeah I agree, any veteran receiver would of caught that ball and had his foot in bounds. It was like Webb didn't even think about the possibility that he wouldn't have been out of bounds. I don't think that thought ever entered his mind. That is what is the difference between your #1 and #2 receivers and the other guys.

Webb didn't blow it though. Our coaches really dropped the ball by taking forever, going into a huddle, and taking their sweet as time. We would of got the ball off if we would of quick snapped. The Minnesota coach had no idea it wasn't a catch until one of his guys told him from upstairs after the booth reviewed it.

Mr. Laz 11-05-2007 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie
I can't believe you guys are still discussing this topic! The whole thing is moot. Just look at the footage as I suggested. Webb had no control of his right foot when it came down.

i believe that's what people are talking about ...... Webb's continuing disregard for the position of his feet.

he seems to have no clue that he needs to control his feet.

beach tribe 11-05-2007 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie
I can't believe you guys are still discussing this topic! The whole thing is moot. Just look at the footage as I suggested. Webb had no control of his right foot when it came down.

I have watched it multiple times, and completely disagree. He screwed up. He is who we thought he was. Average. I don't think the game is his fault, but that play certainly was, and what happened after the play falls on Herm. Could have gotten away with screwing up , but noooooooooooooo.

Molitoth 11-05-2007 12:45 PM

I don't think anyone except the OP is blaming the game loss on Webb. We shouldn't have ever been in that position in the first place.

But...


Webb should know where he is on the field, and be able to drag that foot. He gets payed to be a professional.

beach tribe 11-05-2007 12:49 PM

Like I said before, his right foot to the left of his body does not constitute "no controll" over where your foot comes down.

xbarretx 11-05-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
the Chiefs coaching staff has no idea what to do when it comes to clock/replay management.

dam you CP!!! why didnt you put that on the resumé requirments for the head coach job!!!!! :cuss:

Frankie 11-05-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
i believe that's what people are talking about ...... Webb's continuing disregard for the position of his feet.

he seems to have no clue that he needs to control his feet.

I've seen him catcha a couple of balls very tightly near the sideline and draging his foot. But what I'm talking about is the fact that when he caught the ball, his left ankle twisted funny allowing him no plant foot. In a case like that human body compensates by over stretching the right foot to avoid a total wipe out. Just look at the footage.

Frankie 11-05-2007 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe
I have watched it multiple times, and completely disagree. He screwed up. He is who we thought he was. Average. I don't think the game is his fault, but that play certainly was, and what happened after the play falls on Herm. Could have gotten away with screwing up , but noooooooooooooo.

I disagree back. I simply think Webb has become this BB's new Parker, now that Parker seems to be doing alright.

Chris Meck 11-05-2007 01:28 PM

I don't mind as much when young players make mistakes while trying to make a play.

It bums me out when veterans in their 30's do.

CHIEF4EVER 11-05-2007 03:31 PM

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I Blame this Loss on Jeff Webb. Drag your damn feet.


So the pick six thrown by Captain Checkdown right into Woodsons hands on the final drive (that would have won us the game if we scored) had nothing to do with us losing, eh? He had enough time. All he had to do was not throw an effing pick. And right on cue...........

boredfan 11-05-2007 03:44 PM

I blame this loss on....here's an original.....THE CHIEFS. Webb could have drug his foot, Huard could have not thrown an interception, the defense could have stopped the touchdown, the OL could block better, the play calling could be better, we could have different players. Bottom line, the team lost, not one player.

Bump 11-05-2007 04:38 PM

I blame this loss on Solari and his miserable playcalling. We wouldn't have scored in the 1st half if it weren't for a penalty. How much longer do we have to watch this BS playcalling

NUMBER7 11-05-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun
Just like every one of our losses, Huard and the do-nothing OL are to blame.

Every aspect of the Chiefs sucked yesterday. You can not just blame the offense. Special teams was a disaster...look how many yards the "defensless" gave up...Solari and Herm demonstrated their lack of knowledge of how to control a clock. Blame can be spread all around.

Hootie 11-05-2007 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
As a former WR, where the hell your feet are is the last thing you worry about.

which is why you are doing whatever you are doing rather than playing wide receiver in the NFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Hootie 11-05-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
Fact. Our team is controlled by dummies.

Not a fact. I'd like to think a 6-1 team (at that time) who pays coaches to look at such a thing wouldn't have missed such a blatantly poor call...

The Chiefs got into the huddle...that gave McCarthy plenty of time to get a relay from his coaching staff...

If the Chiefs hurried to the line and made it look like something was 'fishy' about the catch Green Bay is throwing the red flag on the field with or without confirmation from the guys upstairs.

You guys are off your rockers if you think otherwise.

Brock 11-05-2007 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
Not a fact. I'd like to think a 6-1 team (at that time) who pays coaches to look at such a thing wouldn't have missed such a blatantly poor call...

The Chiefs got into the huddle...that gave McCarthy plenty of time to get a relay from his coaching staff...

If the Chiefs hurried to the line and made it look like something was 'fishy' about the catch Green Bay is throwing the red flag on the field with or without confirmation from the guys upstairs.

You guys are off your rockers if you think otherwise.

No, you're wrong. They had time to get a play off. It's just another clock snafu from the mind of Herm.

CoMoChief 11-05-2007 06:36 PM

We can't run block...........worth a shit

We know we can't run block......but we try anyways.

We run it anyways because we don't have a QB that is a threat to anyone we play.

Resulting in teams putting 8-9 people in the box, add in the fact that we cant run block, and you got yourselves a giant bowl of butt pudding as an offense.



It makes me sick that we can never field a balanced team. I can't even imagine what it would be like if we still had the 2002 offense along with this defense. **** the Colts and Pats, we'd be the best team in the league.

CoMoChief 11-05-2007 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie
Not a fact. I'd like to think a 6-1 team (at that time) who pays coaches to look at such a thing wouldn't have missed such a blatantly poor call...

The Chiefs got into the huddle...that gave McCarthy plenty of time to get a relay from his coaching staff...

If the Chiefs hurried to the line and made it look like something was 'fishy' about the catch Green Bay is throwing the red flag on the field with or without confirmation from the guys upstairs.

You guys are off your rockers if you think otherwise.

Coaches don't risk wasting a time out because they think the opposing offense is being fishy. A player who was around the play will usually tell the coach what really happened or what he thought happened.

Hootie 11-05-2007 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief
Coaches don't risk wasting a time out because they think the opposing offense is being fishy. A player who was around the play will usually tell the coach what really happened or what he thought happened.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

You're right, Herm is to blame. DAMNIT HERM :cuss:

BLAME HERM FOR JEFF WEBB BEING A POOR EXCUSE FOR AN NFL RECEIVER!

Easy 6 11-05-2007 08:30 PM

1) O line.

2) Huard.

3) Solari & Herm, for not getting a play off before the challenge & a TERRIBLE run calling game.

In that order, thats who's responsible for this one...Jeff Webb, the D???...they're not even CLOSE to being responsible for it.


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