2007: LJ could be out a while. Possible long term injury?
 

Consider this a rumor.
Again I'm not saying this is fact but someone who has told me medical "stuff" about Chiefs players in the past and it has turned out to be true told me this.

LJ has a garden variety sprained ankle but thats not worrying the Chiefs or LJ.

They think its his foot thats is the real concern and specifically worst case scenerio Plantar Fasciitis or a pulled ligment in the foot. It happened when LJ tryed to pull on his foot when it was under Hawk and stretched that muscle on the bottom of his foot and in the arch. It could take 3-4 weeks of rest or in rare cases to a year to recover. But until the swelling goes down they won't know for sure.

Again just FYI passing it along.

The PF (or a Lis Franc) crossed my mind Sunday. I almost posted it on the game thread as a semi-joke, but thought better of it.

Just our luck. We should have known this would happen as soon as Carl signed the deal. I swear, sometimes I think we are the most fucked up team of all times.

FAX

I stated this yesterday based on my previous injury expierence and the video replay of the hit.

Better let him heal up. This team isnt going anywhere but a first round playoff exit again this year if we even make it that far....

Priest isn't coming back. :)

Exactly what I told my wife when she called on the drive home.

If he has even a mild plantar fasciitis injury, he'll be out the rest of the year, IMO.

Or at minimum, ineffective. Putting weight on it is hard enough, but pushing off and cutting would be excruciating.



:banghead:

Sit down LJ. Rest up.

Absolutely.

If in fact it is a PF injury, they tend to linger without the proper rest and treatment.

I want him ready to go at 100% next summer, not limping around because Carl wanted to make sure to win that 8th game.

Heh, lets hope he still has some gas left in the tank.

You also just posted that Cutler is done for the year.

So these don't heal like normal?

How different is this from a pulled groin? Or a pulled bicep muscle?

According to ESPN radio 6:00 pm-Cutler is done. Blame them if it is wrong.

I have that. I got it 2 years ago playing football on thanksgiving with my son, brother and nephew. It takes a lot of Physical Therapy to get it to heal. Very tough to walk around in the morning. If you are on your feet a lot during the day it gets real sore at night.

I guess "Stay Down Bitch" finally caught up with us. LMAO

No, this is what ESPN is reporting...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3096101

Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler doesn't have the hairline fracture in his left leg he feared.

An MRI on Monday was negative, but coach Mike Shanahan said he didn't know if Cutler would practice much this week or be under center Sunday at Kansas City.

"He doesn't have a stress fracture, which is a positive," Shanahan said. "The X-rays were negative, the MRI was negative. So, we'll see how sore he is. Right now he's quite sore. And we'll get a chance to see how he feels on Wednesday."

Cutler, who declined to comment Monday, took a helmet to his lower leg, which was badly bruised, in the first half of the Broncos' 44-7 loss at Detroit on Sunday. He was carted off the field and although immediate X-rays were negative, Cutler said he feared his leg was broken.

The 2 people I knew that had PF took FOREVER to heal completely. Both over a year. It's incredibly difficult to keep from re-aggravating it.

I've read about people taking 18 months to fully heal. Obviously, it's a case by case basis, but everything I've read says 4-6 weeks minimum.

That is not what was stated on the radio at all. Done for the year. They are about as reliable as Jwit if they change now.

Like I said blame the radio- they talked about how bad the Donks will be with Ramsey starting.

I got a feeling they have never changed their story...You are just caught in a blatant lie. Hell of an effort. Nice touch saying you heard it on the radio so their is no link.

Cutler will be fine come Sunday. We'll be the ones's shorthanded when we play Sunday.

Can Priest recapture the magic?

I see Kolby Smith gettting a healthy dose of carries as well.

I listened to sports radio all day, petro and the others did not say much about it, but ESPN came on like they were breaking the story.

i love how some are talking like THIS will keep us out of the playoffs. if what i'm reading about this PF injury on here is true, i hope LJ spends a few months on his couch in his NY condo. he can have Jay-Z over and they can lay down some tracks. as long as he rests that foot, i don't care what he does or where he goes. there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BRING HIM BACK this season. we'll lose enough that we'll be out of the race, so that maybe, just maybe, croyle could get some experience. if we rush him back, it could linger into NEXT season, which according to some around here, is what we're really playing for anyways.

1-3 weeks was said on 38thespot

Thats Jack Harry's show right? Okay that means LJ will play Sunday.

On the bright side, LJ will have more time to work on his rap career.

exactly

if it's Lis franc then it's big trouble


seems like it's 50/50 on career ending

I hate the fact LJ will probably be out AT LEAST a month...but man, I'm excited for the Priest...I bashed him for 2005 but watching last week MAN I forgot how much I loved PRIIIIIEST HOOOOLMES!

Doom... DOOOOOOOM!

I...kind of feel like the Rancor Keeper when the Rancor got owned by Luke Skywalker in Return of the Jedi:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8...alakiliiu1.jpg

This hurts though...I love LJ...that flag spike was really something. Hopefully it's a 2-3 week thing...I hope Priest has the endurance to be THE guy.

This hurts though...I love LJ...that flag spike was really something. Hopefully it's a 2-3 week thing...I hope Priest has the endurance to be THE guy.
How many points do you get for a big spike?

Larry soon-to-be-eating-nachos Johnson coming to a town near you!!

dude LJ played with some serious heart yesterday...it was great to see...

I heard LJ was only out for a week, tops.

Must be WPI garbage...

that would be aaaaaawesome

is there a picture of the flag spike? that was a great moment, i wish it would have come in a win.

In SD we got some sports radio honk from Philly, who is supposedly close to the "King" himself Carl. And he made it sound that LJ's injury, was one of those week to week deals.

Is this the ligiment in the arch of your foot? or the muscle in the arch of your foot?

I pulled that, actually a minor tear playing fast pitch softball.. Running to first and stepped in a small hole on the back side of the bag... I couldnt walk for a couple of days nor play softball for well over 18 months.. I kept re-agravating it so easily...

I am no where near the athlete LJ is.. Just a fat beer drinking softball player... But I assume it will be hard for him to come back and very painful, that I can atest to...

Halfcan is the best doctor I have ever seen and my dad was one. He can diagnose an injury without examining the patient. Amazing!!

If Priest and Kolby do well, I gaurantee you LJ misses just this week, tops.

Glad I picked up Priest off the waiver wire today....

I'm sure LJ is chillaxen right now.

well let's find out why we drafted Kolby Smith

OK Priest, it's time to take the diaper off and go out there and play. It's time that you earn that money ........

My dad who's an ER doc after watching the replay said he sprained the Lis Franc joint.

A Loud & Enthusiastic AMEN to that.

I was half expecting to see some kind of Theisman-like injury, hopefully its like when that Bungle appeared to rip his head off...not as bad as it looked.

LJ needs to suck it up and get ready for Denver so we can win now. Screw what's best for the long term.

Well, looks like sunday will be Hooties last day...

Oh, definitely. ROFL

Sure will miss him..... NOT!

What is the countdown at now? How many does he have left?

13 carries.

Local news on FOX 4 said a few minutes ago that LJ is out 2-3 weeks.

Ouch.. Nice knowing you Hootie...

Hopefully he is a man of his word....

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and i think that LJ will be out for more than a couple of weeks. :)


FWIW, I had plantar fascitus (sp) and it took a very long time to heal, especially with me working on my feet all day long every day. It took every bit of 8 months to heal without any real therapy.

Sadly, Hootie isn't going anywhere...

I've had a plantar wart. That ****er hurt.

It didn't really look to me like the bottom of Larry's foot was the part that got injured, BTW. That's where the plantar ligament is. It looked to me like the top and side of Larry's foot got wrenched and twisted, which would mean a sprain or maybe some cartilage got ****ed or something.

Plantar Fasciitis is something that is more chronic and related to long term standing and weight bearing.

It's much more likely that it's a Lis Franc injury. That's the injury that pretty much ended Duce Staley's career, but Kevin Jones only missed a year...but those are Lis Franc Fractures and dislocations

From wiki:

At present, such an injury happens typically when one steps into a hole and the foot twists heavily. Falling from a height of two or three stories can also cause this fracture. American football players commonly get this injury when they have their foot pointing down and someone lands on their heel. There are also other ways of receiving such an injury.

Treatment

Treatment options include operative or non-operative treatment. If the dislocation is less than 2mm, the fracture can be managed with a POP(plaster of Paris) or dynacast for 6 weeks. The patient's injured limb cannot bear weight during this period. For operative treatment, percutaneous screws +/- k-wire will be used for internal fixation of the fracture. Again, the patient's injured limb cannot bear weight. The screws/k-wires must be removed before weight bearing.

This looks like what happened to Larry, unfortunately:

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5336/burrf5ab2.jpg

WOW. I never knew there were SOOOOOOOO many doctors on here. Sweet.




Freakin' know-it-alls. :)

2-3 weeks?

Can we come out on the plus side of...

vs. Donkeys
at Indy
vs. Raiders


Can we go 2-1 without him?

I see you've been breaking down game film again.

I've had PF for years, and sometimes when I get up in the morning I have to hop around until it stretches out. However, there are special inserts for your shoes, which can be obtained from a podiatrist. If you use the inserts it's not a problem. Mind you, I could run like a deer when I was young and in the Airborne and Special Forces. Now I'm 65 and a little slower, but the PF is not a big problem with the inserts.

Could we have gone 2-1 WITH him???

Point taken.

It's not like we've had much of a run game anyway.

Our D will get us to 2-1.

I'm telling what my dad told me, and he's a board certified physician.

I believe you. Since when can they do an examination/diagnosis THROUGH A TV SCREEN? That's all I'm sayin'.

Didn't see this link posted yet:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

Foot sprain could keep Chiefs RB Larry Johnson sidelined
By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer
November 5, 2007

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Larry Johnson spent Monday undergoing treatment and tests on his injured right foot amid fears Kansas City's Pro Bowl running back could be sidelined for an extended period...."

I thought it was a Cardinal?

I hope I'm wrong.

Probably. Fortuitous that it happened this way I suppose.

BS. You can fight through plantar fasciitis. All it takes is tape and they even make neoprene supports for it. It is painful but it is bearable. Especially with the painkillers they take before a game. ;)

Good to see they read the Planet.

I read on Warpaint last week that LJ's injury was the Plantar Fasciitis. Sometimes that place amazes me.