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Phobia 11-28-2007 10:43 PM

Home stuff
 
Okay, I'm showing off. I just finished a couple photos for a potential customer so I figured I'd share them.

The picture I'm showing is my first concrete counter attempt and is installed in my own home - on my kitchen island bar. The other focus is the pole wrap technique I've used. I've never, ever seen it done elsewhere and all my internet searches has failed to turn up a picture like it. Finally you'll see the floor with the diamond mosaic inlays. I'm kinda partial to that.

Phobia 11-28-2007 10:44 PM

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Manila-Chief 11-28-2007 10:57 PM

The floor looks great ... but, and maybe this is just my computer but I can't see the details of the counter ... When we get the funds we will redo our island counter top and I'm looking for ideas.

pr_capone 11-28-2007 10:59 PM

F00k Bob Villa.... you should have your own TV show.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief
The floor looks great ... but, and maybe this is just my computer but I can't see the details of the counter ... When we get the funds we will redo our island counter top and I'm looking for ideas.

I can probably email a larger picture. Do you still have my email address? I think it's probably your computer. Is your contrast too dark? There's a lot of detail to look at on the top. There's mosaic inlays, an ogee edge, exposed aggregate, and a patina in progress.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:02 PM

You can also probably see part of the distressed cabinet my wife did in that first photo. We did a lot of different techniques in our kitchen. All of it was labor intensive but materials cheap. Much of the material was surplus from other jobs or purchased at a heavy discount at auctions and surplus dealers.

Donger 11-28-2007 11:03 PM

Do you do work in the Pacific Northwest (as opposed to the Atlantic Northwest)?

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone
F00k Bob Villa.... you should have your own TV show.

That's quite generous of you. Don't think I haven't watched some of the home show hosts and daydreamed though.

Simply Red 11-28-2007 11:05 PM

nice island, too funny. We have absolute black granite everywhere but the island. The island is `ornamental gold` granite. I'm staring at our island it is painted white (drying) - painted Tuesday afternoon. She (my wife) has elected to get the island only, fauxed an antiqued/stressed creme, it's in it's first of a few layers. Funny. Concrete island's are really `in` right now so is soap-stone. Have you seen that yet?

Bump 11-28-2007 11:06 PM

ya that looks really good! You seem to be a master at your art

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
Do you do work in the Pacific Northwest (as opposed to the Atlantic Northwest)?

Design and consulting only. All my crews are based in the KC metro and I'm through traveling except under very rare circumstances under which I can add to my portfolio and/or make a lot of money. Heh.

Rain Man 11-28-2007 11:08 PM

Very nice. I like that column.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red
nice island, too funny. We have absolute black granite everywhere but the island. The island is `ornamental gold` granite. I'm staring at our island it is painted white (drying) - painted Tuesday afternoon. She (my wife) has elected to get the island only, fauxed an antiqued/stressed creme, it's in it's first of a few layers. Funny. Concrete island's are really `in` right now so is soap-stone. Have you seen that yet?

Yeah, soapstone is more of an east top style. It's too expensive to ship to the midwest - at least that's what I'm assuming because it's just not widely available here.

I love mixing cabinet colors and top styles within a kitchen. I'm glad it's become trendy because 5 years ago, it was almost unheard of.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Very nice. I like that column.

Thanks. I don't care for the tile bar top I did though. I completed that portion months before I ever considered attempting concrete counters. The oak nose on it would preclude me from changing to concrete now though and I have a significant amount of time invested in perfecting that so I'll just live with it.

Simply Red 11-28-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Yeah, soapstone is more of an east top style. It's too expensive to ship to the midwest - at least that's what I'm assuming because it's just not widely available here.

I love mixing cabinet colors and top styles within a kitchen. I'm glad it's become trendy because 5 years ago, it was almost unheard of.

Yeah, I'm proud of what she (my wife) has done here. I wish like heck you could see it, all the way to the media room. One day my dumb-ass will learn to post pictures. I know it's not hard, I've just never actually taken the time to learn. :shake:

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump
ya that looks really good! You seem to be a master at your art

Heh. I don't know about "master". That pole is the first and only one of its kind. The top is my first try. Maybe I'll be a master one day. I guess the only part I have mastered is not being afraid of trying new and different stuff.

Donger 11-28-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Design and consulting only. All my crews are based in the KC metro and I'm through traveling except under very rare circumstances under which I can add to my portfolio and/or make a lot of money. Heh.

Define "a lot of money."

Simply Red 11-28-2007 11:19 PM

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Define "a lot of money."

Easy Phil, Donger's `comfortable.` ;)

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:23 PM

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Define "a lot of money."

Heh. A lot more than what I'm able to make locally. When I'm away, my crews don't get as much done so there are more considerations than when I was a one-man shop.

Donger 11-28-2007 11:24 PM

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Easy Phil, Donger's `comfortable.` ;)

One of my brothers lives up there and is remodeling. This isn't for me.

Donger 11-28-2007 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Heh. A lot more than what I'm able to make locally. When I'm away, my crews don't get as much done so there are more considerations than when I was a one-man shop.

Fair enough.

HemiEd 11-28-2007 11:27 PM

Concrete counter? Is that the new slate or um granite?

Simply Red 11-28-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
One of my brothers lives up there and is remodeling. This isn't for me.

Oh, Okay. I was scratching my head knowing you lived in Denver or the near-abouts.

Donger 11-28-2007 11:28 PM

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Oh, Okay. I was scratching my head knowing you lived in Denver or near-abouts.

We're spreading out, in order to make the assimilation easier, k?

Fish 11-28-2007 11:28 PM

Pole wrap technique? I've very curious, and I say that in the least gay possible way. You didn't inlay all those little pieces?

Whatever you did, it looks good.

Simply Red 11-28-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
We're spreading out, in order to make the assimilation easier, k?

:)

Donger 11-28-2007 11:32 PM

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:)

I'm not kidding. This has been planned for generations. But, that's a secret.

I'm kind of the black sheep, so please keep that a secret, too.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Concrete counter? Is that the new slate or um granite?

I'm not sure I follow the question.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
Pole wrap technique? I've very curious, and I say that in the least gay possible way. You didn't inlay all those little pieces?

Whatever you did, it looks good.

Yeah, I put all those pieces on the pole and then grouted it. It's pretty challenging.

Funny story, I had incentive to have that done by last Thanksgiving. So I was up at 5:00 AM grouting the thing when my MIL comes down for coffee while I'm stroking the pole. Heh. She got a kick out that.

ClevelandBronco 11-28-2007 11:47 PM

I love the look of concrete countertops. Looks like you have the process down. The inlays are a great touch.

I wish I could have you over for some (Texas style) ribs so we could share info.

Phobia 11-28-2007 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
One of my brothers lives up there and is remodeling. This isn't for me.

Unless your brother is rolling in money and can afford to bring in designers and consultants from halfway across the country, he'd probably get much more value for his dollar hiring a talented contractor locally. If his tastes lean towards rustic/industrial then I'm a perfect match in the design department. But I'm sure he can find somebody there.

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:01 AM

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I love the look of concrete countertops. Looks like you have the process down. The inlays are a great touch.

I wish I could have you over for some (Texas style) ribs so we could share info.

I don't have the process down yet but I'm sure learning fast. I'll probably look at this countertop in my kitchen in a year and laugh at my own incompetence.

I don't even understand the difference between Texas, Carolina, KC, and Memphis ribs. Isn't the difference in all these styles in the sauce? I don't even like sauce on my ribs. There's two reasons to put sauce on ribs:
1. They're too dry.
2. They taste like crap. Heh.

cdcox 11-29-2007 12:01 AM

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We're spreading out, in order to make the assimilation easier, k?

Donger, CP member most likely to be an alien.

Donger 11-29-2007 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Unless your brother is rolling in money and can afford to bring in designers and consultants from halfway across the country, he'd probably get much more value for his dollar hiring a talented contractor locally. If his tastes lean towards rustic/industrial then I'm a perfect match in the design department. But I'm sure he can find somebody there.

He's loaded, but somewhat (how should I put this) different. He's been through about a dozen designers so far locally. He's the artistic one in th family, so he has expectations that far exceed normality. I mentioned it because what you showed looks exactly what his house in KC looked like.

Donger 11-29-2007 12:05 AM

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Donger, CP member most likely to be an alien.

Hey, I'm naturalized.

HemiEd 11-29-2007 12:08 AM

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I'm not sure I follow the question.

Please forgive me, we just got our new Harvest Gold appliances. I am very ignorant on this stuff.

But are you actually making countertops out of concrete? Seriously?

I thought Granite was what everyone was putting in now.

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Please forgive me, we just got our new Harvest Gold appliances. I am very ignorant on this stuff.

But are you actually making countertops out of concrete? Seriously?

I thought Granite was what everyone was putting in now.

Granite is the new Formica. Concrete is the new high end. It just hasn't hit the midwest hard yet. It's really big on the coasts.

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:18 AM

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He's loaded, but somewhat (how should I put this) different. He's been through about a dozen designers so far locally. He's the artistic one in th family, so he has expectations that far exceed normality. I mentioned it because what you showed looks exactly what his house in KC looked like.

So, what's his complaint about those designers? I have a pretty unique design bent. I don't know of many who mix rustic with industrial. Of course, I don't pay much attention to other designers anyway because I'm busy developing my own style. FWIW, my leanings probably gravitate towards those choices because I feel I can repurpose materials and still make something look really eclectically delightful for less material investment.

I really should develop my website better so I can just show people to the site - if they like what they see then maybe it's a match. Unfortunately, it's still a cookie-cutter piece of crap.

Donger 11-29-2007 12:25 AM

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So, what's his complaint about those designers? I have a pretty unique design bent. I don't know of many who mix rustic with industrial. Of course, I don't pay much attention to other designers anyway because I'm busy developing my own style. FWIW, my leanings probably gravitate towards those choices because I feel I can repurpose materials and still make something look really eclectically delightful for less material investment.

I really should develop my website better so I can just show people to the site - if they like what they see then maybe it's a match. Unfortunately, it's still a cookie-cutter piece of crap.

Honestly, I don't think that even he knows. He's pretty much impossible, and that's saying quite a bit considering his lineage.

Donger 11-29-2007 12:26 AM

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I really should develop my website better so I can just show people to the site - if they like what they see then maybe it's a match. Unfortunately, it's still a cookie-cutter piece of crap.

I agree. Use it and sell it.

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:31 AM

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Honestly, I don't think that even he knows. He's pretty much impossible, and that's saying quite a bit considering his lineage.

Cool. I live for a challenge. Easy-to-please people are good for business but make for a pretty boring project. If I can make somebody who is impossible happy then I pad my pocketbook and my ego.

007 11-29-2007 12:33 AM

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So, what's his complaint about those designers? I have a pretty unique design bent. I don't know of many who mix rustic with industrial. Of course, I don't pay much attention to other designers anyway because I'm busy developing my own style. FWIW, my leanings probably gravitate towards those choices because I feel I can repurpose materials and still make something look really eclectically delightful for less material investment.

I really should develop my website better so I can just show people to the site - if they like what they see then maybe it's a match. Unfortunately, it's still a cookie-cutter piece of crap.

Yeah, I checked that website but only saw the sunroom pics.

HemiEd 11-29-2007 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Granite is the new Formica. Concrete is the new high end. It just hasn't hit the midwest hard yet. It's really big on the coasts.

Thanks for the info! So instead of dropping a few grand on granite, I can go buy a couple bags of quik-crete from Home Depot, make some forms and I am cool?

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:36 AM

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Yeah, I checked that website but only saw the sunroom pics.

That website blows. I really gotta get on it. I have a pretty extensive portfolio but it's not on my site. Why? I'm not gonna throw my wife under the bus. I wouldn't dare.

cdcox 11-29-2007 12:37 AM

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Thanks for the info! So instead of dropping a few grand on granite, I can go buy a couple bags of quik-crete from Home Depot, make some forms and I am cool?

Ed, had you considered Bondo?

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:37 AM

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Thanks for the info! So instead of dropping a few grand on granite, I can go buy a couple bags of quik-crete from Home Depot, make some forms and I am cool?

Uh. Sure. Plus about 150 hours of your time working that quik-crete into something presentable.

007 11-29-2007 12:39 AM

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That website blows. I really gotta get on it. I have a pretty extensive portfolio but it's not on my site. Why? I'm not gonna throw my wife under the bus. I wouldn't dare.

ROFL

HemiEd 11-29-2007 12:49 AM

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Ed, had you considered Bondo?

I could do magic with that.

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Uh. Sure. Plus about 150 hours of your time working that quik-crete into something presentable.

In all seriousness, I would like to see one in person. For some reason visions of my driveway in the kitchen aren't working for me.

Phobia 11-29-2007 12:58 AM

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I could do magic with that.


In all seriousness, I would like to see one in person. For some reason visions of my driveway in the kitchen aren't working for me.

Get that vision out of your head. Concrete countertops are NOTHING like a driveway (unless you want it to look like your driveway). Every concrete specialist has their own closely guarded recipe but it all starts with portland, sand, and water.

Check out this gallery. You won't believe what they can do with concrete. http://www.concretenetwork.com/photo...rt=MostPopular

A few reasons concrete is gaining popularity:
1. You can make any shape you want.
2. You can span or cantilever greater distances.
3. The sky is the limit with regard to color, texture, graining, inlays, trivets, etc.
4. You can integrate concrete sinks into the actual counter.

HemiEd 11-29-2007 01:04 AM

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Get that vision out of your head.

Wow. It is gone, thanks. I had no clue.

007 11-29-2007 01:36 AM

This would be perfect for our bathroom. Hate to think of the cost though.

http://www.concretenetwork.com/photo...tudio_3184.jpg

Phobia 11-29-2007 02:04 AM

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This would be perfect for our bathroom. Hate to think of the cost though.

http://www.concretenetwork.com/photo...tudio_3184.jpg

Dude, if you're thinking about doing your bathroom with a double basin application I have the perfect vanity for you. I picked it up at an auction. The cabinet has minor shipping damage (that can be repaired) but the black veined marble top is intact and it has 2 undermount bowls included. I'm just waiting for the right client to snatch it up before I invest the time to repair and paint it.

007 11-29-2007 02:43 AM

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Dude, if you're thinking about doing your bathroom with a double basin application I have the perfect vanity for you. I picked it up at an auction. The cabinet has minor shipping damage (that can be repaired) but the black veined marble top is intact and it has 2 undermount bowls included. I'm just waiting for the right client to snatch it up before I invest the time to repair and paint it.

We are a ways off from doing the bathrooms. We have a crappy looking double sink setup right now with a tile countertop and two inset bowl sinks. UGLY.

What is the length on it?

Phobia 11-29-2007 02:49 AM

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We are a ways off from doing the bathrooms. We have a crappy looking double sink setup right now with a tile countertop and two inset bowl sinks. UGLY.

What is the length on it?

I'm unsure but I'll find out. It's probably between 60 and 72 inches.

Phobia 11-29-2007 02:50 AM

Wow. I should go get 4 hours of sleep or something. Jeesh.

007 11-29-2007 02:51 AM

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I'm unsure but I'll find out. It's probably between 60 and 72 inches.

I think our setup is longer than that. I will have to measure it.

Phobia 11-29-2007 02:53 AM

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I think our setup is longer than that. I will have to measure it.

I'll bet I know a guy who could fix it.

MadMax 11-29-2007 02:56 AM

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Wow. I should go get 4 hours of sleep or something. Jeesh.


nah 2 is good :D

007 11-29-2007 10:51 PM

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I'll bet I know a guy who could fix it.

84"

Buehler445 11-29-2007 11:34 PM

Hey Phob, nice job. That is neat stuff. I wish 1. I owned a house. 2. I could afford you for work. You do some cool stuff. Keep up the good work.

go bo 11-29-2007 11:58 PM

based on my own experience, phil is a professional and does a really good job no matter wht the project might be...

i recommend him to anybody looking for excellent work and/or innovative design (even though my job didn't involve any design, so to speak)...

seriously, if you are the kc area and need some professional repair/remodeling done, you won't find anybody better than phobes...

a+ work and aa++ results...

i'm go bowe and i approved this ad...

Phobia 11-30-2007 12:11 AM

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84"

This one is 68".

Phobia 11-30-2007 12:12 AM

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based on my own experience, phil is a professional and does a really good job no matter wht the project might be...

i recommend him to anybody looking for excellent work and/or innovative design (even though my job didn't involve any design, so to speak)...

seriously, if you are the kc area and need some professional repair/remodeling done, you won't find anybody better than phobes...

a+ work and aa++ results...

i'm go bowe and i approved this ad...

Wow. It's almost like I paid you instead of the other way around. 'preciate the kind words, JMac.

007 11-30-2007 01:04 AM

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This one is 68".

Hmmm, 8" on both sides. Have to think on it.

Need to see it as well.

Phobia 12-01-2007 06:04 PM

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Here's a cool man-cave I just finished for Alphaman today. Ironically, I didn't even get the work from ChiefsPlanet even though I've known him on here forever, I found him seeking a basement contractor on Warpaint.

Here's the unique bar.

Phobia 12-01-2007 06:06 PM

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The front of the bar is actually made from weathered corrugated metal harvested off an old barn.

Phobia 12-01-2007 06:08 PM

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Here's the bartender's view.

Phobia 12-01-2007 06:09 PM

Sorry, it looks like my camera lens had some water spots from the rain. :(

Phobia 12-01-2007 06:11 PM

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Please don't turn this into a poop thread.

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DaneMcCloud 12-01-2007 06:23 PM

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Yeah, I put all those pieces on the pole and then grouted it. It's pretty challenging.

Funny story, I had incentive to have that done by last Thanksgiving. So I was up at 5:00 AM grouting the thing when my MIL comes down for coffee while I'm stroking the pole. Heh. She got a kick out that.

Great work throughout this thread.

Question: Why couldn't you use mosaic travertine sheets instead of doing it individually? That's what I've got on the bench in pic 1. Couldn't that be wrapped around a pole?

DaneMcCloud 12-01-2007 06:26 PM

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Phobia 12-01-2007 06:29 PM

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Great work throughout this thread.

Question: Why couldn't you use mosaic travertine sheets instead of doing it individually? That's what I've got on the bench in pic 1. Couldn't that be wrapped around a pole?

That's what it is, but I had to cut them into individual strips.

Love your bathroom. I wish somebody would hire me for something like that. Unfortunately that's a pretty high end bathroom. I'll bet it cost triple what this basement did.

Donger 12-01-2007 06:36 PM

Do you have kids, Dane?

DaneMcCloud 12-01-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
That's what it is, but I had to cut them into individual strips.

Love your bathroom. I wish somebody would hire me for something like that. Unfortunately that's a pretty high end bathroom. I'll bet it cost triple what this basement did.

Okay, that makes sense. When we began remodeling our home four years ago, I wondered how they got the tiles straight. That was until I saw that they were on sheets. But I've seen bad mosaic jobs in spite of them being on sheets (we actually had to have a contractor completely redo a bathroom because it was so freakin' bad. I mean, awful!).

Thanks for the kind words. That bathroom was the toughest bathroom in the house to design. I drew up the plans and picked everything in there, every tile, every accent, every piece of hardware - absolutely everything. It was challenging because I was just hoping that all of the different tiles and designs would work together.

It took the guys about 8 weeks to complete it (it had already been demo'd two years prior) and I was in there every hour to make sure that they were doing it exactly as specified (especially the lighting - the contractors we've encountered never want to put enough light in these spaces. I learned my lesson the hard way in my kitchen).

Your work looks great and I wouldn't hesitate to hire you if you weren't 2000 miles away!

DaneMcCloud 12-01-2007 06:39 PM

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Do you have kids, Dane?

Not yet.

But here's the kid's bathroom:

Baby Lee 12-01-2007 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
I don't have the process down yet but I'm sure learning fast. I'll probably look at this countertop in my kitchen in a year and laugh at my own incompetence.

I don't even understand the difference between Texas, Carolina, KC, and Memphis ribs. Isn't the difference in all these styles in the sauce? I don't even like sauce on my ribs. There's two reasons to put sauce on ribs:
1. They're too dry.
2. They taste like crap. Heh.

My best understanding

Texas - Ketchup based brown sugar and chiles for heat, consistency almost like Ragu
Carolina - Mustard and tobasco
KC - Molasses/Tomato based, thicker, smokier with a more sharp heat, consistency more like syrup.
Memphis - Dry rub


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