**** Official Bowl Selection Thread ****
 

BCS Selection Show on FOX at 7:00 Central Time. This show is 30 mins.

Bowl Selection Special on ESPN at 7:00 Central Time. This show is 3 hours long.

Sugar: Hawaii v. Georgia

Fiesta: West Virginia v. Oklahoma

Orange: Virginia Tech v. Kansas

Rose: USC v. Illinois

BCS National Championship: Ohio St. v. LSU

Cotton: Missouri v. Arkansas

For the rest of the Bowl selection
http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/schedule

Time to get screwed out of a BCS Bowl, and to watch a team who played the same type of schedule as Kansas, and lost to a worse team as their only loss get to play in the National Title. I can't wait.

:deevee:

I still can't really see a scenario in which KU doesn't end up the Fiesta Bowl.

How does it make you feel that you need your name to propel you the championship game instead of your play?

What a joke. OSU and KU is virtually the same team as far as results, schedule, wins, and losses go. In fact, I'd actually have to give the edge to Kansas.

Better loss.

Better conference.

Same difficulty of schedule.

Can actually dominate a MAC opponent.

Etc.

HAWAII VS. KANSAS FOR TITLE

LMAO

I think it will happen. We are the #3 team in the Big 12 according to how everything played out, even though we have one loss and OU and MU have two. We are rated #8 in both polls used in the BCS picture, with both MU and OU ahead of us. I really don't think we are getting a BCS bowl. Three teams from the Big 12 ain't goin

Might as well. It really doesn't matter. The title game is mythological. Nobody knows who the best team is from #1 to #11 team in the country. Nobody has any freaking clue. To just guess and pick one is completely asinine.

Three teams can't go. But unless OU gives up the Fiesta for, I guess the Orange, the Fiesta won't put MU in the Fiesta for Round 3. That's the only reason KU gets the Fiesta. MU will go to the non-BCS Cotton.

It's an absolute abomination, if you ask me. And this isn't about KU. It's about how ****ed up the BCS is.

Which bowl is the Hawkeyes going to? Is it the Iowa City Bowl?

Do the top 6 or top 8 teams go to BCS games?

Dude, I read a lot of this stuff last night, and went over practically every scenario that could happen. The polls don't matter. Even our BCS ranking which could be below MU's won't matter. It is very unlikely that MU is going to a BCS bowl, mostly because the Fiesta Bowl reps won't want a repeat of the same matchup 3 times.

Do they have enough shoes there so the whole team can bowl?

Could not agree more. The system is ****ed up, no doubt.

I love the Beakers bitching in this thread when it's MU, the only team they played and consequently, the team who soundly defeated them, who is going to get fucked out of the bowl.

how I see it:

MNC: LSU vs OSU

Automatic bids: OU to Fiesta, USC to Rose, VT to Orange

1st pick: Rose for replacement (likely Illinois)
2nd pick: Sugar for replacement (likely Georgia)
3rd pick: Orange for at-large (MU? KU?)
4th pick: Fiesta for at-large (KU if MU doesn't go Orange? ASU?)
5th pick: Sugar for at-large (likely Hawaii)

I'm not going to be suprised when neither KU nor MU get a BCS game. I'll be shocked if the Fiesta Bowl takes KU over Arizona State considering the game will be played right in their backyard.

I don't see your point at all. Both of these teams deserve to be in one, and only one is going to get in.

I just heard that Arizona State accepted a bowl bid at the Holiday, so if that's true...well that scenario isn't going to happen.

It all depends whether the Orange Bowl wants MU or not. The Orange Bowl picks before Fiesta, so if they want MU they can get them. Otherwise, you are correct in that the Fiesta will not take MU.

I sure hope so. That would be bad.

I just find it a little telling that no MU fans are in here lamenting our chances, meanwhile KU fans are bitching up a storm. Don't worry, you will get your chance to celebrate when the Manginos get their bowl.

Are you saying there isn't any point to be made here about how there really isn't much difference between Ohio State and Kansas?

My main complaint isn't if KU gets a BCS bowl or not, but how Ohio State gets to play in the National Title game for doing nothing all year, the same nothing Kansas did. If I was Hawaii, I'd be real pissed if they get a BCS and beat the hell out of Va Tech or something,...and get no Championship.

Schedule strength:
Ohio State (#60)
Kansas (#68)

Interesting.

Other teams:
VPI, WVU, LSU, etc. (#20-40 range)
Oklahoma (#59)
Hawaii (#137)

Ohio State lost to Illinois.

Kansas lost to Missouri.

I think theres no question who had a better loss, or which conference is better here.

It's just amazing to me how OSU gets to be #1, while KU is #8 when they virtually did the same thing. I wouldn't have as much of a problem if OU or Virginia Tech was in there. Hell, didn't Va Tech beat 4 ranked teams?

Sagarin has the following:

OSU (60)
Kansas (88)
LSU (21)
MU (24)
OU (59)
VT (36)
Georgia (30)
Hawaii (137)

If you take Texas and Oklahoma out of the Big XII (since KU didn't play either) then I'd give the nod in schedule to OSU.

But Kansas lost a week later than Ohio State! That makes them clearly less deserving!

What did you expect? You are talking about the most corrupt institution in all of American sports.

Did you really think that KU would have a chance if it did the same thing as OSU?? You are bitching about a game with a stacked deck that you knew was rigged beforehand.

C'mon, dude. Just be happy that KU had a amazing season. Sure, OSU wasn't exactly spectacular. But what team was great this year? I can't really think of any that were great every game. I think OSU deserves it by default. They will probably get smashed again by an SEC team.

As much as you want to compare schedules and qualities of victories/losses the one thing that OSU did that KU did not do was win its conference. No matter how strong/weak the Big 10 is, OSU won the conference. If KU won their conference with 1 loss they would be in the title game.

I agree. The BCS is really screwed up. We need a playoff system.

By my count it's 1.

Gotta love MU fans. A one touchdown final is a sound defeat.

I read something about the Fiesta would not want ASU because there would be much less tourism $$ for the week. Don't know if there is any truth to that view, but I think it makes sense.

Ha. ASU in a BCS game? Man I hope not. That would be sad.

You were down 28-7 in the fourth quarter despite us having nearly 1/3 of all our penalties for one season called against us in one game.

The same could be said about KU's red zone turnovers.

Right...so we should throw out the 4th quarter and all the stupid, deserving penalties MU made?

That makes complete sense.

Star is reporting MU is going Cotton:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/break...ry/386454.html

Last I checked, a football game is 60 minutes. Whining about the refs won't change that. I'll give MU credit. They came to play and held on. But don't act like it was some amazing blowout. They didn't use the 21 point 4th quarter rule and just stop the game after 3 quarters.

You must share the same glasses prescription as John Bible.

Or I'm not a completely biased MU fan who refuses to believe the obvious.

I don't see why you are angry, though. It makes it all the more depressing that KU lost a game in which the other team kept making mistakes.

It's official: MU to Cotton.

Best bowl in 38 years, but ... well, you know my pissing and moaning.

Arkansas to face MU. Should be a good one. Be interested to see if some of you talk down Arkansas as you did when they went through a tough SEC schedule.

That's a damn good football team with one ridiculously good player.

MU got screwed, though. Someone in the BCS will be less deserving than them.

I'm not gonna name any names.


It will be interesting to see how they do vs. McFadden.

Great, so if/when the #2 team in the Big XII beats the #6 team in the SEC everyone on here will declare the Big XII superior.

Word is McFadden might not play the bowl game.

why?

Protecting his NFL career?

Sweet I am glad to see missouri in the cotton bowl. Go tigers! We get to play one of the toughest SEC teams and a great player. Time to see where we stand Go tigers! I am excited

Wisconsin to Outback

Always been the way.

Generally people don't know how to judge bowl matchups. MU vs. Arkansas is about as worthwhile as UGA vs. Colorado.

Yeah, it's an interesting matchup, since it's the 3rd best team in the SEC West vs the best team in the Big 12 North.

It's a good bowl, but I'd understand Mizzou fans being a little angry about not getting a BCS bowl.

Kentucky vs FSU in the Music City Bowl

Yeah, it sucks knowing that you could have been in a BCS bowl. Still, I would be happy with that. KU and MU had their best seasons in years/ever(in KU's case). While neither of us got to play in the title game, it still was an amazing run. I can't be too demanding as a KU fan. Hell, my team didn't even get selected for a bowl game last year.

Tis not true.

lol

Yup, Heisman voting over with, the coach he played for left. No reason to play. If he played the only outcome might be dropping his stock. His stock isn't going to rise on that game, but it could fall.

I never understood why they had those kind of match ups. I remember when KU went 9-2 in the 1995 season and only got to play in the Aloha Bowl. They played a UCLA team that only won 7 games. Needless to say, KU whooped them pretty badly.

I did tell you most of the scenarios ended up with KU in a BCS bowl and MU gettng screwed out of one.

I expect MU's offense to be too much for Arky.

Who's gonna be Arkansas interim coach for the Cotton Bowl?

Should be a good game. Mcfadden is a beast.

Felix Jones is pretty good too.

Yes, I think so, as well.

after yesterday-I don't care anymore

So where are you guys getting these bowl announcements?

Reggie Herring. How is Mizzou's run D?

I seem to remember a team in 1998 that went 11-1 and only got to play in the Alamo bowl.

Okay, I've just been told that KU might be going to the Orange bowl, we'll see.

Holiday: ASU vs Texas
Peach: Auburn vs Clemson
Outback: Wisconsin vs Tennessee
Gator: Texas Tech vs Virginia
Insight: Indiana vs Okie St
Alamo: Penn St. vs A&M

Not great...not terrible either. They shut down Colorado and Kansas' running game pretty well. But A&M, K-State and Oklahoma ran over them pretty well.

How's Arkansas done against pass-happy spread teams? Are they deep in the secondary? How's their pass rush?

I only saw the Hogs once this year against LSU and they looked very good with the exception of their sorry QB.

Our secondary is our weak point on D. Usually they come out strong but they wear out by the second half. We play ultra aggressive Man D usually but I hope Reggie will change things up for this one.

Pretty funny intro.

Bob Stoops's BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!! / equals...........
 

Mizzou-Ra fans still whining about LAST WEEK'S VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again Boyceofdumber with a quality contribution

1 Ohio State 2813 0.9870 1469 0.9793 0.910 0.9588
2 LSU 2630 0.9228 1418 0.9453 0.950 0.9394
3 Va Tech 2345 0.8228 1242 0.8280 0.960 0.8703
4 Oklahoma 2520 0.8842 1331 0.8873 0.800 0.8572
5 Georgia 2469 0.8663 1277 0.8513 0.800 0.8392
6 Missouri 2117 0.7428 1104 0.7360 0.850 0.7763
7 USC 2346 0.8232 1227 0.8180 0.650 0.7637
8 Kansas 2092 0.7340 1099 0.7327 0.810 0.7589
9 West Va 1924 0.6751 1010 0.6733 0.640 0.6628
10 Hawaii 1903 0.6677 994 0.6627 0.610 0.6468
11 Arizona St 1628 0.5712 900 0.6000 0.690 0.6204
12 Florida 1786 0.6267 890 0.5933 0.620 0.6133

Woooo, Hawaii is locked in! More money for us non-BCS peasants!

Told ya MU would be above KU and that KU would drop.

Uh oh. I take it there's whining incoming...?