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'Hamas' Jenkins 01-12-2008 07:01 PM

Cards trade Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus
 
Which to me is kind of like trading a Ford Taurus for a Mercury Sable.

Rolen's shoulder is all kinds of fucked up, and he hates LaRussa, so he was a no go in St.L, but Glaus isn't nearly as good of a fielder and is just as injury prone (although he has much more power and could give Pujols some protection in the lineup).

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2008 07:08 PM

So it's official?

They've been talking about trying to get it done sometime this weekend, pending physicals.

I'm curious as to how much if any cash we had to send Toronto to finish the deal, last I heard Rolen was owed something like $14M more than Glaus on the remainder of their contracts.

Coach 01-12-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
So it's official?

They've been talking about trying to get it done sometime this weekend, pending physicals.

I'm curious as to how much if any cash we had to send Toronto to finish the deal, last I heard Rolen was owed something like $14M more than Glaus on the remainder of their contracts.

It also needs the commish's approval as well, depending on how much cash will be exchanged and all.

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach
It also needs the commish's approval as well, depending on how much cash will be exchanged and all.

Yep.

Nothing official per www.stltoday.com

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...C?OpenDocument

BigRedChief 01-12-2008 07:22 PM

He sucked in the playoffs and World Series before last year but he will always be remembered by me as the guy who got the hit that put us ahead to win the World Series. He didn't make the impact that we would have liked but he is now part of Cardinals lore. Happy Trails Scott!

Demonpenz 01-12-2008 07:26 PM

i remember when rolen was the best 3rd baseman that ever lived

ChiefsCountry 01-12-2008 07:30 PM

On the radio down in Springpatch yesterday, there was a rumor that the Cardinals were considering trading for Bay and Wilson from Pittsburgh for some relievers? Anybody else hear this?

OnTheWarpath15 01-12-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
On the radio down in Springpatch yesterday, there was a rumor that the Cardinals were considering trading for Bay and Wilson from Pittsburgh for some relievers? Anybody else hear this?

They've been rumored to have interest in Jack Wilson all winter. The signing of Izturis (sp) has all but killed that. Hadn't heard anything about Jason Bay. The only other Pirate I've heard mentioned is........

Matt Morris.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-12-2008 07:51 PM

The Cards drafted Jack Wilson, it's not that surprising.

Halfcan 01-12-2008 07:52 PM

Does a box of Roids come with Glaus??

Frazod 01-12-2008 07:57 PM

A sad, but necessary, move. Personally, I would have rather kept Rolen and traded LaRussa, but since King Tony was staying, Scott had to go. I don't think he'll ever be the same again, though, so probably just as well to be rid of him.

Both of them have been behaving like children.

L.A. Chieffan 01-12-2008 08:11 PM

This deal would have been off the chain about 5 years ago

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-12-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
A sad, but necessary, move. Personally, I would have rather kept Rolen and traded LaRussa, but since King Tony was staying, Scott had to go. I don't think he'll ever be the same again, though, so probably just as well to be rid of him.

Both of them have been behaving like children.

Word.

Glaus could at least provide us with some power. Rolen was a goddamned banjo hitter the last year and a half.

StcChief 01-13-2008 12:20 AM

Good move IMO. Rolen 1/2 year guy last few years, border line bust for the money.

Glaus has been very good. steady? Roids?

KC_Connection 01-13-2008 01:02 AM

Troy Glaus can barely walk due to his leg/feet problems, Scott Rolen's shoulder might be irreparably screwed up.

This one comes down how healthy each of them will be in the coming years.

Eleazar 01-13-2008 06:11 PM

I wonder why Toronto would want to swap a broken down third baseman for an older broken down third baseman with more years?

KC_Connection 01-13-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
I wonder why Toronto would want to swap a broken down third baseman for an older broken down third baseman with more years?

They must believe that one is more broken down than the other.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-13-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
I wonder why Toronto would want to swap a broken down third baseman for an older broken down third baseman with more years?

B/c the grass is always greener and their GM is a fucktard.

Coach 01-13-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
I wonder why Toronto would want to swap a broken down third baseman for an older broken down third baseman with more years?

This is the same guy that said that Gil Meche isn't very good.

Mi_chief_fan 01-13-2008 07:21 PM

Getting Glaus off the artiicial turf should helpthe foot. Hopefully.

I own a Scott Rolen '06 WS Jersey. I thought he was thereal MVP of the series.

Frazod 01-13-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan
Getting Glaus off the artiicial turf should helpthe foot. Hopefully.

I own a Scott Rolen '06 WS Jersey. I thought he was thereal MVP of the series.

As I said earlier, I'd much rather keep him and dump LaRussa. Oh well.

They sure have done a bang-up job of dismantling that '06 team. :shake:

Mi_chief_fan 01-13-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
As I said earlier, I'd much rather keep him and dump LaRussa. Oh well.

They sure have done a bang-up job of dismantling that '06 team. :shake:


Agreed. Although, I think Edmonds was done, and I still think if Carpenter were healthy, they're as good as Milwaukee or Chicago.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-13-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
As I said earlier, I'd much rather keep him and dump LaRussa. Oh well.

They sure have done a bang-up job of dismantling that '06 team. :shake:

That team dismantled itself.

Edmonds was absofuckinglutely done, Rolen is a shell of his former self, Eckstein is starting to show his age, Encarnacion had his skull crushed, So was 900 years old, Mulder can't stay on the field, Weaver chased the bucks, Suppan wanted too much $$.

Ultimately, I think that Mozeliak has done a good job of changing the identity of the club in a time where we needed to change, because our veteran core was over the hill and rapidly declining.

Our farm system finally is showing signs of life (Colby Rasmus, Anderson, etc.) By the time '09 rolls around, we should be able to field a competive team with a mixture of good young talent and solid veterans.

Frazod 01-13-2008 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
That team dismantled itself.

Edmonds was absofuckinglutely done, Rolen is a shell of his former self, Eckstein is starting to show his age, Encarnacion had his skull crushed, So was 900 years old, Mulder can't stay on the field, Weaver chased the bucks, Suppan wanted too much $$.

Ultimately, I think that Mozeliak has done a good job of changing the identity of the club in a time where we needed to change, because our veteran core was over the hill and rapidly declining.

Our farm system finally is showing signs of life (Colby Rasmus, Anderson, etc.) By the time '09 rolls around, we should be able to field a competive team with a mixture of good young talent and solid veterans.

Agree with everything EXCEPT Taguchi. I really think it sucks that they got rid of him. I know he's old, but he still hits well and is effective in the field.

And I'm bracing for a really shitty season, too. Hopefully it won't be Chiefs bad, but this team has some serious holes.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-13-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
Agree with everything EXCEPT Taguchi. I really think it sucks that they got rid of him. I know he's old, but he still hits well and is effective in the field.

And I'm bracing for a really shitty season, too. Hopefully it won't be Chiefs bad, but this team has some serious holes.

I fully expect them to be around .500. It's shitty in comparison, but it won't be some 65 win debacle.

Edmonds and Rolen were basically replacement-level players last year.

I loved General So, but it's always better to get rid of a player one year too early, IMO.

Clement is another reclamation project, but he's proven to be a quality starter, and he came dirt cheap. Wainwright will be better this year, Mulder will at least give us something.

I don't know about Izturis or Kennedy, though.

KC_Connection 01-14-2008 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
B/c the grass is always greener and their GM is a fucktard.

A healthy Scott Rolen is better than a healthy Troy Glaus, that's my guess as to why they did it. The big question is whether the two of them will ever be fully healthy again.

Buck 01-14-2008 12:09 AM

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BigRedChief 01-14-2008 06:11 PM

officially official?

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...1?OpenDocument

not really anything else we could have done. High $'s contract with a player in the doghouse with his manager and casuing a problem in the clubhouse. His manager wants him gone. Our new GM didn't have alot of leverage.


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