Sour Grapes: Jag on Brady: 'He ain't all that'
 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

LMAO What a dumbass.

26/28....

yea he must suck

I'll say it again: We just watched the team the Chiefs want to be play a perfect game and lose. The future is bright for the KC Mediocres.

26/28 and he had two drops that were right in the receivers hands. Yeah, he sucks. That figures that Nelson would say something like that because he still has that thug mentality.

Thats pretty sad! That said I work with a kid that said he thinks Garrard (sp) is better than Brady. He said he would not trade them heads up, as the only reason Brady does well is because of all the talent around him. I just laughed and walked off.

Someone like Henderson or Stroud needs to tell the rook to shut the **** up.

They put together the perfect gameplan for that defense. Brady got sacked the first offensive play of the game right? Then after that, its all short passes. That's smart, and that's why they won. Nelson is an idiot if he wasn't impressed.

Hey Rook:

What exactly did YOU do last night?

Brady is overrated. Heh.

The kid's just pissed that he hasn't pulled a supermodel.

You can take away the long ball from great QB's, and they will more then happily drive down the field time after time hitting 5-10 yard routes. It doesn't look impressive, but in a way, most QB's get frustrated and try to force something. The good one's know they don't need to, just scan the field and hit the open guy.

Do you think he really cared that the drive took 12 plays instead of 2 when they were still scoring TD's on every drive?

Of course Herm probably wasn't watching the game, because his team wasn't in it.

ARENA BALL!

LMAO

The Chiefs basically played the same defensive philosophy in last years playoff game at Indy.


It did work somewhat as Manning had 3 INT's. Im fairly certain thats what The Jags were counting on, (as longer drives = more plays and more chances for mistakes) but Brady doesnt make mistakes.

I wish Reggie would have just kept his mouth shut. :shake:

Brady is overrated.

I'm not saying that he isn't a great quarterback. I just think that those who are saying he is the best ever (and there are an increasing number of them) are overrating him just a tad.

And, yes, he is surrounded by an excellent team and great coaching staff. Put him on the '77 Buccs and see how he does. Let him bring even a mediocre team to a big win, then call him amazing. (Maybe he'll do this some day, by the way -- if he has a career as long as Elway, Favre, and Montana, he's bound to play for a mediocre team someday.)

Oh brother....if you dont think hes one of the best ever, your kidding yourself.

Hes in his 7th season as starter and on his way to his 4th Championship.

Yea, hes overrated ROFL

Jag's S Reggie Nelson, the biggest moron in FL...and that alone sets the bar quite high. LMAO

He's got three rings, rook. How about you? LMAO

Prior to this year, his teams were by no means elite. He's got an excellent team this year, but he's never had an elite WR before this year, and he's already won already won three superbowls.

He's probably not the most talented QB to ever play the game, but he's got to be one of the smartest. I won't crown him the best ever yet, but he's getting pretty damn close.

Is this the same Reggie Nelson who I saw get his ass beat all night long Saturday?

Any year besides this one, and that Jaguars team is stacked to make a run to the SuperBowl. I'm sure the Pats will be good next year, and the year after, and the year after, but I'm not sure they can continue the insanity we've seen week in, week out. I'd love the Chiefs to play like the Jaguars. There's no shame in the way they play..I think if they play the Pats 10 times, they most definately win 4. There's no shame in that.

If the Chiefs are playing the same kind of ball the Jags are here in 3 years, I'd be happy. We'd actually have a prayer.

He is an excellent quarterback.

But I'm not even sure he is the best QB currently playing, let alone the best EVER.

Remember, "EVER" is a very, very long time.

I guess that, to me, it just depends on how you define "best." If we're talking about raw talent, I'd take Manning any day. But if we're talking about ability to find ways to win games, Brady's my choice without blinking.

Scoreboard.

I wish the Chiefs were full of overrated players like this...

I don't think Manning is "raw talent." The guy controls the offense like few other players can.

I think Favre is better at finding ways to win games.

Off topic, but did Herm really say that in your signature? If so, I want to find him myself and beat the piss out of him.

2008 New England Patriots Schedule

Home: Buffalo, Miami, NY Jets, Denver, Kansas City, Arizona, St. Louis, Pittsburgh

Away: Buffalo, Miami, NY Jets, Oakland, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Indianapolis

:eek:

Yes.

In his season wrap up Press Conference with Carl. I was stunned..............

Tom Brady didn't even look like he was trying last night... he just whips perfect spirals around like it's nothing, in the playoffs, after going 16-0... people are going to have to face Tom Brady being called the greatest for a while... even if he does wear make-up. lol

Back to back 16-0 seasons!!! First ever.

Well, 14-2 at worst.

It's not like he was surrounded by great talent in his first 3 Super Bowl wins. His receivers were Troy Brown, Deion Branch, David Patten, David Givens and his TE's were Daniel Graham and Christian Fauria. He did have Dillon at RB in 2004, but before that the RB's were Antowain Smith and Kevin Faulk. None of those players with the possible exception of Dillon are difference makers and most of those players were just run of the mill, journeyman players.

Which QB, exactly, would be all that with the '77 Bucs?

Brady is EASILY top 5 ever. By the time he's done I think he'll have secured the best ever title. I have no idea what QB could succeed with no other talent around him...

Yikes. They could go undefeated two seasons in a row with that schedule.

Fixed your post. I don't know how you can be the best but not be the most talented. Smarts is part of talent. Larry Bird wasn't the most athletic, but he's one of the best all-time.

Fair enough. I can agree with that.

1. Pats had good luck with health this year, unlike some years.

2. Pats and Colts are just ridiculous. I feel bad for the rest of the NFL. Seriously, soemtimes it hardly seems fair.

I've been on the other end of that, of course, watching Shula/Marino, and Levy/Kelly dominate the AFC East for years and years and years, so I'll just enjoy the ride while I can.

Herm's teams are rarely if ever 'in it.' ;)

Damn you and your Boston sports references.

ROFL I didn't want to say it...

True..you know if your LT got he knee blasted in the middle of the season, you guys just might have lost a game..or one of your DB's..etc.

I'm sure the Pats will dominate the league for at least 3 more seasons, possibly more. But the Jags are nothing to scoff at, they're a pretty damn solid team in the own right.

Funny thing is that if it were any other team, I'd figure their dominance was in jeopardy due to the age of some of their starters on defense. But I have no doubt about Belichick's ability to find replacements. And Brady is THAT good.

Oh yeah, Brady's an amazing field general, and I suppose BB would find a sub, I guess that's sort of their M.O.

Somehow he gets a team full of stars to play with a team mentality, and put their own celebrity behind the team agenda. It's about "we" and not "me". Pretty impressive.

Yes he did. He said it at his year end presser. Feel free to ride him like a toilet seat.

Id hope brady could complete most of his passes with that WR core and 6 seconds....

What a dumbass though, brady lit them up big time on just dink and dunk shit

Couldn't you say that about other great QBs? Manning has been surrounded by talented receivers for years and Tom wasn't but still won.

And Brady won lots of games playing like that in the past without star WRs. He does what he has to do to win....instead of being the star or a stat whore.

He already did take a mediocre team to the super bowl. At least twice.

The problem is that even the Jags won't be playing that well next year. They basically had a perfect season and look what it got them.

Those '03 and '04 Pats teams were not mediocre even if they weren't as good as this one. The '01 team was much closer to that descriptor.

I'm not taking anything away from Brady but he's always had a top 5 line (this year the best by far), and the best coaching staff in the league.

That makes a difference.

Yeah, I guess. I'm not sure I would call them mediocre without Brady.

Look, let's put it this way: If Tom Brady was the Chiefs QB this year, would we be playing in the AFC Championship?

I don't think so. I think we would have a better chance with Manning or Favre. I just think they are better QB's. Manning has more skill and command of the offense, and Favre has more gutty drive.

Maybe not this year BUT two years ago...YES.

He's a typical mullett wearing
 

Gator.......lowest form of human life.

Favre is unquestionably gutty, but he's also one of the most physically talented QBs ever.

Farve still has the best arm in the NFL.

That's not really a fair criticism considering every gameplan a team has had for New England this season has failed.

Add to that....he's always had a Top 10 defense and a clutch kicker. I'm pretty sure Tom Brady wasn't blowing people out in the SBs he's been in. He's always relied on Vinatieri to win the game. If he goes into this SB and kicks the NFC's ass by 30 points.....then I'll crown him one of the greats.

take a look at some of the patriots super bowl rosters. deion branch, david patton, are the only two receivers i can remember off the top of my head. he has already won with mediocre talent. brady is the best qb i've watched play since the 80's joe montana.