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KCwolf 02-23-2008 10:07 AM

Best College Bball Team
 
With #1 vs. #2 tonight - who do you think is the best team in America?

1. Memphis
2. Tennesse
3. North Carolina
4. Kansas
5. UCLA
6. Texas
7. Duke
8. OTHER

CupidStunt 02-23-2008 10:39 AM

UCLA.

Bearcat 02-23-2008 10:53 AM

I haven't seen Tennessee in a while, not since they beat Xavier on the road, and I wasn't greatly impressed. I think they'll lose tonight, because they seem to struggle on the road.

If Memphis wins tonight, I think they're the best team in the nation... it obviously doesn't mean they'll win a NC, but they've had a tough non-conference schedule.

After that, I'd say Kansas because they are the only team without a 'bad' loss, UCLA after that, then it gets hard between Duke, UNC, and Texas.

Bracketology has Kansas in the Phoenix regional with... drumroll.... UCLA as the #2 seed. :banghead: If it happens, it would be 3 years in a row UCLA got the #2 seed in the West.

ArrowheadHawk 02-23-2008 11:05 AM

Kansas of course! My second choice would be Memphis.

KCwolf 02-23-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 4598622)
I haven't seen Tennessee in a while, not since they beat Xavier on the road, and I wasn't greatly impressed. I think they'll lose tonight, because they seem to struggle on the road.

If Memphis wins tonight, I think they're the best team in the nation... it obviously doesn't mean they'll win a NC, but they've had a tough non-conference schedule.

After that, I'd say Kansas because they are the only team without a 'bad' loss, UCLA after that, then it gets hard between Duke, UNC, and Texas.

Bracketology has Kansas in the Phoenix regional with... drumroll.... UCLA as the #2 seed. :banghead: If it happens, it would be 3 years in a row UCLA got the #2 seed in the West.


Actually in the most recent Bracketology - KU is in the Midwest w/Xavier #2 - a much better match-up for KU IMO

ROYC75 02-23-2008 11:40 AM

Without sounding like a homer, I say KU. Memphis is good, with every reason to toot their own horn, I just think week in week out, KU is better with the overall play making ability, defense and tougher schedule from top to bottom in the long run. Bottom line, KU & Memphis are the two best teams in the country and a case can be made for both of them.

1 KU
2 Memphis
3 Tenn.
4 Toss Up.
5 Toss Up

Thig Lyfe 02-23-2008 11:51 AM

Why isn't Geroge Mason on there?

Stewie 02-23-2008 12:02 PM

KU! My 2nd choice is Memphis. John Calipari was an assistant coach at KU for a couple of years and lived across the street from me in Lawrence.

alanm 02-23-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 4598663)
Without sounding like a homer, I say KU. Memphis is good, with every reason to toot their own horn, I just think week in week out, KU is better with the overall play making ability, defense and tougher schedule from top to bottom in the long run. Bottom line, KU & Memphis are the two best teams in the country and a case can be made for both of them.

1 KU
2 Memphis
3 Tenn.
4 Toss Up.
5 Toss Up

There's 10 other homers besides yourself Roy.:D

CoMoChief 02-23-2008 12:31 PM

UNC and KU are the 2 deepest teams in that list, however UNC has the better coaching.

I'd bet on UNC if it came down to those 2 teams.

Skip Towne 02-23-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 4598672)
Why isn't Geroge Mason on there?

Because they lost to East Carolina and Kent State?

Skip Towne 02-23-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 4598721)
UNC and KU are the 2 deepest teams in that list, however UNC has the better coaching.

I'd bet on UNC if it came down to those 2 teams.

Calipari said Memphis goes 11 deep.

ROYC75 02-23-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4598755)
Calipari said Memphis goes 11 deep.

Is that 11", guess that could choke a Tiger.

ChiefsCountry 02-23-2008 01:16 PM

KU is the most talented but Self is an idiot that will cost them. Memphis is #2 and Calpari is a way better coach thus they are the best team in the country.

Silock 02-23-2008 01:16 PM

KU? No way. We haven't even proven we can beat a good team yet.

I'd say the polls are pretty accurate right now.

Memphis
UT
Duke
UNC
KU

Mr. Arrowhead 02-23-2008 01:56 PM

what a ****ing homer poll, until someone beats Memphis, then you have to pick them.

Third Eye 02-23-2008 02:00 PM

I can't wait for this game. I said before the season that Memphis had a legitimate shot at running the table. Big step tonight.

RustShack 02-23-2008 02:02 PM

Where is the Iowa State option?

Silock 02-23-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 4598789)
what a ****ing homer poll, until someone beats Memphis, then you have to pick them.

I think Memphis is the best in the country right now, but they even though they had a tough non-conference schedule, there's something to be said for playing in a strong conference with intense rivalries that test you week in and week out.

alanm 02-23-2008 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 4598797)
Where is the Iowa State option?

Buried right under the Nebraska option.

Thig Lyfe 02-23-2008 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4598734)
Because they lost to East Carolina and Kent State?

Those are only two reasons.

Skip Towne 02-23-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 4598829)
Those are only two reasons.

Georgia State, Delaware, Old Dominion

Braincase 02-23-2008 03:43 PM

I'm biased.

BigVE 02-23-2008 05:46 PM

UCLA

Thig Lyfe 02-23-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4598837)
Georgia State, Delaware, Old Dominion

That's only five good reasons. C'mon, you're gonna have to do better than that.

Bill S Preston 02-23-2008 06:31 PM

I voted Memphis because they're undefeated, however, I wouldn't vote against the Bruins come tournament time.

cdcox 02-23-2008 07:54 PM

KU, definitely KU. I can't believe this is even a question.

Ebolapox 02-23-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 4598758)
Is that 11", guess that could choke a Tiger.

tigers like to swim. don't you watch the discovery channel? or are you just too busy with your cousin and young brother........ 'goin' at it,' as you so wistfully put it once.

Eleazar 02-23-2008 08:15 PM

LMAO what a crock

teedubya 02-23-2008 08:55 PM

Bucknell.

the Talking Can 02-23-2008 09:04 PM

if you don't say Memphis then you're a silly homer....

mikeyis4dcats. 02-23-2008 10:06 PM

LOL...one of you homers voted for KU even after the loss today. Is that sugar-free kool-aid?

mikeyis4dcats. 02-23-2008 10:15 PM

pats on the back to kstater and myself for recognizing the Vols

KCwolf 02-24-2008 08:39 AM

Congrats to Tennessee....big road Win and first ever #1 ranking. Even Coach Pearl got to "cop a feel" on Erin Andrews @ halftime.....nice.

ArrowheadHawk 02-24-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 4599311)
LOL...one of you homers voted for KU even after the loss today. Is that sugar-free kool-aid?

It defiantly wasn't Purple Kool-Aid. While after last night I wouldn't vote for KU as the number one team. I wouldn't vote anybody else either. Now that Memphis has lost I just see a big mess at the top of the rankings.

CupidStunt 02-24-2008 11:07 AM

KU is not in the same galaxy as Memphis at this point.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-24-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4599629)
It defiantly wasn't Purple Kool-Aid. While after last night I wouldn't vote for KU as the number one team. I wouldn't vote anybody else either. Now that Memphis has lost I just see a big mess at the top of the rankings.

so you're such a pissed off KU homer, you won't even consider any team as the best??

you're the kid that took his ball and went home weren't you...

ArrowheadHawk 02-24-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp (Post 4599633)
KU is not in the same galaxy as Memphis at this point.

Give KU Memphis's schedule and they would have the same record.

ArrowheadHawk 02-24-2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 4599666)
so you're such a pissed off KU homer, you won't even consider any team as the best??

you're the kid that took his ball and went home weren't you...

I'm not pissed off. And as far as the best team goes, we have March to decide that not some stupid poll like in football.

KCwolf 02-26-2008 10:49 PM

Uh....sorry Tennessee.....all that work in Memphis is gone thanx to Vandy....March Madness is going to be incredible....parity is here.

teedubya 02-26-2008 11:00 PM

Kansas is going to be a #2 seed. So, they aren't the best team, irregardless what the homers say.

irishjayhawk 02-26-2008 11:03 PM

I voted Other because, truthfully, no one has proven they can win consistently through conference play.

Tennessee validated my claim tonight after I predicted they'd win against Memphis but would drop one down the road. No one is as good as they've been "hyped" to be.

evolve27 02-27-2008 12:07 AM

Vanderbilt. Peyton must have not been in the booth tonight.

StcChief 02-27-2008 08:48 AM

NOT KU

ceebz 02-27-2008 09:00 AM

As much as I'd love to see KU cutting down the nets in March, I think UCLA is the best team and will win the tournament.

KU just has too many issues... Rush doesn't seem nearly as explosive as he was pre-injury, Collins is a freaking mess and Arthur is a black hole, who'd rather toss up piss-poor shots than pass the ball back out of the post. Not to mention their defensive woes.

KU really lacks a go-to guy. When the offense stagnates and they need to rely on one guy to lead them to the win, KU falters. I would like to see Chalmers take on the go-to guy role, but, he seems reluctant to do so.

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 4604185)
NOT KU

NOT SIU!

Eleazar 02-27-2008 10:42 AM

LMAO

POND_OF_RED 02-27-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4599830)
Give KU Memphis's schedule and they would have the same record.

Please tell me this was sarcasm. Considering KU has not beat anyone this year. KU's only "quality" wins are Arizona, Oklahoma and USC. Memphis beat them all as well. They also beat Georgetown and Connecticut who are both top 15 teams. SOS's look like this: KU-61st, Memphis-15th.

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4604359)
Please tell me this was sarcasm. Considering KU has not beat anyone this year. KU's only "quality" wins are Arizona, Oklahoma and USC. Memphis beat them all as well. They also beat Georgetown and Connecticut who are both top 15 teams. SOS's look like this: KU-61st, Memphis-15th.

No its not sarcasm, whoever ranks schedules is an idiot. Memphis's conference is horrible and not even challenging. Are half of their games not against their conference?

mikeyis4dcats. 02-27-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4604359)
Please tell me this was sarcasm. Considering KU has not beat anyone this year. KU's only "quality" wins are Arizona, Oklahoma and USC. Memphis beat them all as well. They also beat Georgetown and Connecticut who are both top 15 teams. SOS's look like this: KU-61st, Memphis-15th.

much as I hate to agree with him, he's probably right. Memphis' schedule is a joke. The only top 10 team they've played besides UT was Georgetown.

Eleazar 02-27-2008 11:11 AM

KU is teh best team EVARRRRRaarrrrrAARRRRRRarrrrrARRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 4604380)
KU is teh best team EVARRRRRaarrrrrAARRRRRRarrrrrARRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

I just figured out how you got to 30,000 posts.

POND_OF_RED 02-27-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4604371)
No its not sarcasm, whoever ranks schedules is an idiot. Memphis's conference is horrible and not even challenging. Are half of their games not against their conference?

That's what's funny about it. There conference schedule brings down there SOS. KU's conference schedule helps there SOS. Yet you still aren't even close to playing the same level of competition. Your non-con schedule was easier than there conference schedule so it pretty much evens out there. The only difference is they have beat a team currently ranked in the top 25.

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4604391)
That's what's funny about it. There conference schedule brings down there SOS. KU's conference schedule helps there SOS. Yet you still aren't even close to playing the same level of competition. Your non-con schedule was easier than there conference schedule so it pretty much evens out there. The only difference is they have beat a team currently ranked in the top 25.

Which of these wins was on the road?

Eleazar 02-27-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4604387)
I just figured out how you got to 30,000 posts.

Making a sarcastic comment every time KU fans post that their team is the best in the history of everything would have me nearing 300,000*


*300,000 x10^300,000

KevB 02-27-2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4599830)
Give KU Memphis's schedule and they would have the same record.

Who has KU played and who has Memphis played? Have you actually looked at the schedule? I see someone already clued you in to the schedule strength ranking.....

POND_OF_RED 02-27-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4604398)
Which of these wins was on the road?

How many good teams have you beat on the road? I'm not saying Memphis has had a really tough schedule. I'm just saying don't come on here and act like you've played a tougher schedule at all. Here is a breakdown of your records against RPI rankings:
1-25 26-50 51-100 101-200 200+
Mem 3-1 3-0 6-0 9-0 5-0
Kan 1-1 3-1 5-1 10-0 4-0
You have both played the same amount of cakewalk teams. Memphis has a better record against the top 25 however. Both schedules are laughable. Don't sit here as a KU homer and say that any team in the top 25 has a weak schedule because yours is just as weak if not weaker.

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 4604400)
Making a sarcastic comment every time KU fans post that their team is the best in the history of everything would have me nearing 300,000

Show me one post where anybody is saying that KU is the best in history of everything.

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4604437)
How many good teams have you beat on the road? I'm not saying Memphis has had a really tough schedule. I'm just saying don't come on here and act like you've played a tougher schedule at all. Here is a breakdown of your records against RPI rankings:
1-25 26-50 51-100 101-200 200+
Mem 3-1 3-0 6-0 9-0 5-0
Kan 1-1 3-1 5-1 10-0 4-0
You have both played the same amount of cakewalk teams. Memphis has a better record against the top 25 however. Both schedules are laughable. Don't sit here as a KU homer and say that any team in the top 25 has a weak schedule because yours is just as weak if not weaker.

All those rankings are just somebodies opinion. And it is my opinion that KU would have the same record as Memphis does if they got to play Memphis's schedule. Its just my opinion.

Eleazar 02-27-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4604438)
Show me one post where anybody is saying that KU is the best in history of everything.

I was referring to the fact that KU was initially winning this poll.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-27-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 4604469)
I was referring to the fact that KU was initially winning this poll.

shoot, 4 KU homers have voted for them in this poll since they lost to OSU. THAT's optimism.

ArrowheadHawk 02-27-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 4604473)
shoot, 4 KU homers have voted for them in this poll since they lost to OSU. THAT's optimism.

I prefer the term "Real Fans" instead of Homers. But not even I would vote for them if this poll had been made after the OSU loss.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-27-2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4604625)
I prefer the term "Real Fans" instead of Homers. But not even I would vote for them if this poll had been made after the OSU loss.

when the final horn sounded on the OSU gamne, KU had 18 votes in the poll.

ceebz 02-27-2008 06:21 PM

Exactly what I'm talking about. Chalmers needs to take charge and be more aggressive offensively.

88TG88 02-27-2008 07:27 PM

University of Southern California



or UNC

KCwolf 02-27-2008 11:16 PM

The Jayhawks get a road W.......finally. I really think the tournament is wide open & it's going to be next to impossible to fill out the bracket come pool time!!

greg63 02-27-2008 11:28 PM

KU just 'cause I'm a homer. :p

RealSNR 02-28-2008 12:15 AM

Anyone but Puke :#


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