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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-24-2008 10:44 PM

Dogma
 
The wife and I were driving back from KC last night when we got on the topic of the poor career choices of Ben Affleck. Well that moved us to Dogma, one of his few watchable films. So when we got home, I popped it in--goddammit this movie is fucking hilarious. It's such a well done satire, kudos to Smith for the scorched earth policy surrounding the subject matter.

KcMizzou 03-24-2008 10:50 PM

Great flick. Affleck did a damned good job in "Chasing Amy" too.

He might have found his niche directing though. "Gone Baby Gone" was great. And little brother Casey might have proven himself the better serious actor in the same movie.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-24-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 4647955)
Great flick. Affleck did a damned good job in "Chasing Amy" too.

He might have found his niche directing though. "Gone Baby Gone" was great. And little brother Casey might have proven himself the better serious actor in the same movie.

Those are my exact sentiments.

Re: Dogma. The Loki-Bartleby dynamic just kills me. You gotta love a guy who blasts a dude with a Desert Eagle on a bus then breaks out

"Whose house?? Run's house"

007 03-24-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 4647955)
Great flick. Affleck did a damned good job in "Chasing Amy" too.

He might have found his niche directing though. "Gone Baby Gone" was great. And little brother Casey might have proven himself the better serious actor in the same movie.

I loved Chasing Amy. Hell, I enjoyed Dogma regardless of my religion. That was a funny movie.

Jenson71 03-24-2008 11:12 PM

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Bump 03-24-2008 11:19 PM

I need to see Dogma. I saw Gone Baby Gone and thought it was really well done!

Mr. Flopnuts 03-24-2008 11:49 PM

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He needs a little panache!

Frazod 03-24-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts (Post 4648052)
He needs a little panache!

Oh, that rules! LMAO

Bob Dole 03-25-2008 12:14 AM

Dogma has to be one of the most well written and perfectly cast films of this generation.

Okay...that may be a little over the top, but it's some seriously good shit.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-25-2008 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 4648091)
Dogma has to be one of the most well written and perfectly cast films of this generation.

Okay...that may be a little over the top, but it's some seriously good shit.

I'm gettin hungry for a mega mooby-muffin.

KcMizzou 03-25-2008 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 4648091)
Dogma has to be one of the most well written and perfectly cast films of this generation.

Okay...that may be a little over the top, but it's some seriously good shit.

I had no idea Bod Dole was such a Kevin Smith fan.

:thumb:

|Zach| 03-25-2008 12:54 AM

Dogma is great...so many fantastic things came together at the right moment to make it what it is...as far as Ben movies...

Anyone who has a problem with them will get their asses kicked by Fred O'Bannion

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1...nafflekot1.jpg

KcMizzou 03-25-2008 01:18 AM

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Alright,alright,alright.

Demonpenz 03-25-2008 08:43 AM

anything that allanis morrisate is in sucks sorry

Radar Chief 03-25-2008 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 4648331)
anything that allanis morrisate is in sucks sorry

True but at least she didn’t say anything.
And the Selma Hayek stripper routine more than offsets any suckage from Morrisate.

Deberg_1990 03-25-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 4648331)
anything that allanis morrisate is in sucks sorry

She had a re-occuring role on the show "Nip/Tuck" a year or two ago. She played the lesbian lover of the doctors nurse.

She was actually pretty decent and she looked good.

Demonpenz 03-25-2008 11:34 AM

alanis morisette looks like anthony kedis

Bowser 03-25-2008 11:48 AM

Loki: The last four days on Earth. If I had a dick, I'd go get laid. But we can do that next best thing.

Bartleby: What's that?

Loki: Let's kill people. [Lady next to Loki spits out her coffee]

Loki: [to lady] Oh, not you.

Bowser 03-25-2008 11:49 AM

I could go on all day on this movie.





Gun Salesman: We call this piece the Fecalator. One look at it and the target shits him or herself. Try it on.

Loki: Well, it's a lot more compact than the flaming sword, but it's not nearly as impressive. Just doesn't have that Wrath-of-the-Almighty edge to it. I mean, come on, how am I supposed to strike fear into the hearts of the wicked with this thing? Look at this...

Bartleby: Well, then, you know, don't use a gun. Just lay the place to waste, like.

Loki: Easy for you to say. You get off light in razing. You got to stand there and read at Sodom and Gomorrah, I had to do all the work.

Bartleby: What work did you do? You lit a few fires.

Loki: I rained down sulphur, man, there's a subtle difference.

Bartleby: Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

Loki: Hey, you know, **** you, man. Any moron with a pack of matches can set a fire. Raining down sulphur is like an endurance trial man. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of soccer.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-25-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4648761)
Loki: The last four days on Earth. If I had a dick, I'd go get laid. But we can do that next best thing.

Bartleby: What's that?

Loki: Let's kill people. [Lady next to Loki spits out her coffee]

Loki: [to lady] Oh, not you.

A man after my own heart.

I also love "fuck you man, I rained sulfur. Any moron with a pack of matches can start a few fires, raining down sulfur is like an endurance test. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can partake in, next to soccer."

Bowser 03-25-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4648773)
A man after my own heart.

I also love "fuck you man, I rained sulfur. Any moron with a pack of matches can start a few fires, raining down sulfur is like an endurance test. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can partake in, next to soccer."

Well played, sir. :D

Bowser 03-25-2008 12:13 PM

Speaking of Ben Affleck and his sputtering career, whatever happened to him playing Jack Ryan in Clancy's novel/movies? I thought Sum of All Fears was enjoyable, at the least. I'm suprised they never made the next one int he series.

bango 03-25-2008 04:31 PM

A great casting job, and even better acting, and one hell of a writing job. All around Dogma remains one of Kevin Smith's best movies.

Brock 03-25-2008 04:38 PM

Aflleck is always less annoying when he's paired with Damon or at least Jason Lee.

acesn8s 03-25-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4648823)
Speaking of Ben Affleck and his sputtering career, whatever happened to him playing Jack Ryan in Clancy's novel/movies? I thought Sum of All Fears was enjoyable, at the least. I'm suprised they never made the next one int he series.

He sucked ass compared to Alec Baldwin and Harrison Ford.

Fire Me Boy! 03-25-2008 04:48 PM

I've seen every movie Kevin Smith has made, and Dogma is the only one I really like. Absolutely love Dogma.

Fire Me Boy! 03-25-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by acesn8s (Post 4649328)
He sucked ass compared to Alec Baldwin and Harrison Ford.

Oddly, while I like Harrison Ford much more as an actor, I like Alec Baldwin as Jack Ryan better.

acesn8s 03-25-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4649314)
Aflleck is always less annoying when he's paired with Damon or at least Jason Lee.

Mall Rats is pretty funny too.

OnTheWarpath15 03-25-2008 05:02 PM

The movie I watch when I need a laugh. One of my favorite lines, other than the "rainin sulfur" line that's been posted already:

Loki: The major sins never change. Besides, you know, I can spot a commandment-breaker from, like, a mile away. So, bet on it.

Bartleby: This from the guy who still owes me 10 bucks over that bet about what was gonna be the bigger movie - "E. T. " or "Krush Groove"?

Loki: You know, **** you, man, 'cause time's gonna tell on that one.


Or the scene in the Mooby Conference Room:


Bartleby: You are responsible for raising an icon which draws worship from the Lord. You have broken the first commandment. Not only that, I'm afraid not a one of you passes for a decent human being. Your continued existence is a mockery of morality. Like you, Mr. Burton. Last year cheated on your wife of 17 years 8 times. You even had sex with her best friend while you were supposed to be home watching the kids.

Loki: In the bed that you and your wife share, no less.

Bartleby: Mr. Newman - you got your girlfriend drunk at last year's Christmas party and then paid a kid from the mail room to have sex with her while she was passed out, just so you could break up with her guilt-free when she sobbingly confessed in the morning. She killed herself two months later. Mr. Brace disowned his gay son. Very compassionate, Mr. Brace. Mr. Ray put his mother in a third-rate nursing home and then used the profits from the sale of her home to buy an oriental rug for himself. Heavens. Mr. Barker flew to Thailand on the company account to have sex with an eleven year old boy.

Mr. Holtzman okayed the production of Mooby Dolls from materials he knew to be toxic and unsafe, because it was - survey says? - less costly.
[sees the female board member]

Bartleby: You, on the other hand, are an innocent. You lead a good life. Good for you. But you, Mr. Whitland, you have more skeletons in your closet than the rest of this assembled party. I cannot even mention them aloud.
[whispers something in Whitland's ear]

Loki: You're his father, you sick ****.




And the girl after:

[to the female board member]

Loki: You're a pure soul... but you didn't say "God bless you" when I sneezed.

[raises his gun to the female board member's head]

Bartleby: Loki!

Loki: [angrily] You're getting off light.

[as he leaves the board room]

Loki: You're so lucky.


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