THE FACTS about Kansas Jayhawks and Their Road to the Championship
 

I have heard people talk about how easy our road to the Final Four and the Championship was. How UCLA, North Carolina and Memphis had to play better teams. I know these people are haters, and we are the National Champions, but I looked into the truth about our path to greatness, and this is what I discovered.

The teams we beat had an overall record of 175 - 43. I think that is about an %80 winning percenatge. Using espn.com for reference, here are some more facts.

Portland State (23-10)- Big Sky Conference Champions

UNLV (27-8)- Mountain West Tournament Champions

Villanova (22-13)- Finished season ranked #24 in the country (and were a 12 seed)

Davidson (29-7)- The Southern Conference Champs(undefeated in conference) - Finished the season ranked #9 (and were a 10 seed) They beat the West Coast Conference Champs (Gonzaga)in the NCAA Tournament, they beat the Big East Conference Champs (Georgetown)in the NCAA Tournament, and they beat the Big 10 Conference Champs (Wisconsin)in the NCAA Tournament

North Carolina (36-3)- The ACC Conference Champions - Finished the season ranked #3

Memphis (38-2)- Conference USA Champions (undefeated in conference)- Set record for most wins in a season - Finished the season ranked #2.

Out of 6 games, we beat 4 Top 25 teams (3 in the Top Ten) and the other two were a combined 50-18 and were either regular season Conference Champs (Portland State) or post-season Conference Tournament Champs (UNLV.) The only team we played that was not a Conference Champ was Villanova, and they finished the season ranked #24 http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings?poll=2

That is definately not an easy road, and actually looks quite impressive when laid out.

So, in conclusion, ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK:KU:

Sweet, another Jayhawk thread.

Perhaps you did not notice the name of the forum on which you read this post. :D

Have we played somebody yet?

Did you like the post?

I'm convinced. The Hawks impressed me but they're very fortunate hyphenated guy choked his free-throws away. That dude is gonna be haunted the rest of his life. No disrespect - the Hawks took advantage of the opportunities but there was a lot of luck involved - as there generally is with any championship.

Congrats again, Hawk fans.

Ask frazod.

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FWIW, I'm a big Hawk fan but the Hawk-eyes weren't in the dance this year. If I ever have any hope of a National Championship I'm gonna have to develop a keen interest in grappling. I don't see that happening though.

It is kinda hard to get behind that. How many Division 1 schools actually participate in that sport. I know that only like 4 in the big 12 do.

Your basketball team rocks. They won fair and square. You can't hide in a tournament. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.

They didn't take a weekend off while their betters were playing an extra game, then get a bowl game they never earned and didn't deserve handed to them on a silver platter.

You'd think even Kansans could tell the difference.

But maybe not.

You may be right but we are only one of two schools that have won a BCS Bowl and a NCAA basketball championship in the same year.

He did not choke. He performed like he had all year. As a team they performed like they had all year. The Jayhawks were not that great of a free throw shooting team, but in the only game that mattered, they were 14-15 from the line.

Over the last 1:15 Memphis went 1-5. Did each of those misses add points to our score? NO. We went and ripped the trophy out of their hands, they did not just hand it to us.

Yeah, but the other school's BCS bowl win was the National Championship ;)

I'm still elated over the win.:clap:

:grovel: I bow to your greatness. Yours is better but ours is really nice.

Our NC basketball team beat their NC basketball team. Scoreboard!

Yep just like in 03, hawks couldnt make FT's, Syracuse had a ton of luck on thier side, with McNamara hitting ridiclous 3 after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3,after 3 Well you get the point......

Only guy that showed up at the FT line was Big Jeff Gravey...

You're funny.

Sounds like something KSCC fan would say...

OH they are hanging a banner at AFHW saying "We beat the 2008 National Champions for the first time in 25 years at home!"

for a school with little football tradition, we are thrilled at the Orange Bowl victory and a National Championship in basketball.

LMAO I have KState friends that take pride that they beat the National Champs. What a great accomplishment. Look how it helped out OSU.

Absolutely, I'm not knocking it. All the same, for a school with little basketball tradition, we are thrilled with our two NC's and the promise of future success that comes with Billy Donovan at the helm.

But when the "we're one of only two teams" statements come out, I'm obligated to point out that one accomplishment was a little higher than the other (moreso if you take into account that our bball team went on to win it again). :D

Same deal here. I have friends who are Tennessee alum and they spout off about how they beat our 2x bball NC team 3 out of 4 times. Good for them. We were NC's. They weren't. :)

I guess you do what you can to twist the facts in your teams favor.

Yeah, that team couldn't beat Kansas either.

Same here. I am will take another BCS win from football this year and be just as thrilled...

Crap I will take a Cotton bowl win from KU this year in football and another FF in basketball.

Which with the departures coming from KU to the NBA, It will be awful hard for KU to get back to the FF... UNLESS, Chalmers and Aurthur come back.

:)

good for them...

You can take your 2006 regular season win. I'll take the NC's. ;)

That was a pretty good game... but I will take the 2008 NC over that game anytime....

Yeahhhh!!! Another KU thread!

You know you like it.

What you want Chiefs threads?

Its the same year in and year out, we are striving for mediocrity /Carl

At least now we have some postseason success we can celebrate...

You missed the forum title?


:D

Some day Nebraska will do something we can talk about.

As long as they don't go as long as KU did between championships.

The sooner they put football into a tournament the better. I am sick of the BCS.

QFT, but go :KU: regardless.

I found a great post from another bb.

I'm sick of college sports athletes
a) Not graduating - wasting the scholorship.

b) Degrees taylored for their lack of quality HS degree (because they just played sports)

c) acting like gangsta' later in life being paid too much and not know how to act in society.

guys who cares who :KU: had to play. i dont. they won... and im not really a :KU: fan (i mostly just dont care for NCAA but im not anti :KU: either) but what i find odd/funny is all the KU fans are feeling the need to justify the championship. whY? in the words of the Beatles... "let it be" enjoy the :toast:s to :KU: victory and lets see what happens next year.

seriosuly though, why worry about the need to justify it?

p.s. good post regardless Chiefsfanatic :thumb:

:deevee:

Dude, I don't need shit from my teams for 5-10 years to still be happy. But, around year 7 I will probably get a bit antsy.

Ill take it as it comes now... in fact, I hate Carl Peterson a little bit less now.

I missed it, where was Mizzou seeded? :D

I am trying to find a pic of Chalmers last shot in regulation that shows where his feet were when he jumped. There is some idiot on another bb that thinks his foot was on the line. I have searched and searched everywhere that I can think and can't find a pic. Anyone else have a pic of that shot?

I guess you like a system where STADIUM OWNERS determine who plays in major bowl games.

Dumbass.

:shake:

Last year was a very strange year in college football. Most years it works itself out. In the last 10 years there's only been 1 or 2 other incidents and one of them worked itself out in a split championship.

I just don't buy the playoff argument. Have a plus-1, fine. But an 8-team or 12-team or 16-team playoff? No. Most years that would be overkill because there are usually 2-4 teams clearly at the top. I like the fact that EVERY WEEK in college football is a playoff game.

Except that last week, when certain teams play and certain teams get a free pass. And, in the case of the Suckeyes, a free backdoor pass to the National Championship Game that they didn't deserve for a second consecutive year.

Tell me again how this system doesn't suck shit.

Trust me, he didn't have his foot on the line. After them reducing the 3 to a 2 for Memphis earlier in the game, I wouldn't allow myself to get to pumped about Chalmer's shot, until I was sure. I replayed it a few times myself to make sure.

Villanova being ranked is a complete joke. They just weren't a very good team this year. After the Sweet 16, however, nobody gets a free ride. Davidson will never get the credit they deserve, even though they came 3 points away from beating the top 3 seeds in their region. Even when they got a little credit, the same experts turned around and picked UNC because after all, KU almost lost to a 10 seed. UNC and Memphis speak for themselves.

I haven't seen a pic, but I've seen the play many many times and it was a 3. I love everything about it... Collins' move at halfcourt, the fumble and dish to Chalmers, and then the instant reaction of the Jayhawks to play defense after the shot instead of any sort of celebrating. The only thing missing is that I haven't seen an angle that shows Chalmers' reaction to his own shot. I was wondering if the pic on the front page of ESPN Monday night was his reaction. :shrug:

LMAO

You should create a spreadsheet of quotes, or have a random quote generator in your sig... it would be much more efficient.

i think this win by the basketball game will do wonders to help the football team get a nice bowl seeding next year. as long as they are eligible

That's what I was thinking. I just want a picture or video for proof. Not a big deal. I just like to shut up this jackhole with facts. Been doing that for years.

regarding the foot i didnt have any question it was a three... if memphis needs a reason to complain they should ask why they laid down and handed away the game. no one to blame but themselves

According to a poster on the KU board, the Perkins-Self meeting started at noon today.

Everyone in my house (35+ people) were going nuts. I went to the tv really close and looked on the replay. It was clear as day. Both feet in.

Then I went nuts.

Wonder if Lew's gonna pick up the tab for lunch?

Here ya go.

http://i25.tinypic.com/n5k1fn.jpg

Thanks. That will do.

are there better pictures somewhere? i can see better than that blurry one after a whole bottle of crown. you can't really tell where his right foot is

FTR, I was drawn out by 88-31-10. :)

That was exactly my reaction, I screamed and yelled, but then I was immediately worried that they would review it.

I have seen a lot of teams celebrate a shot like that, but it was almost like the Jayhawk players expected it to go in. It makes me think back to Bill's speech before the UNC game, where he told the players to expect good things to happen and they would.

Also, as the shot is in the air, it appears that Mario goes into his patented back pedal. He said over and over that he knew it was good the moment it left his fingers.

It says on the :KU: board that Self has a press conference at 4:00 PM CST

If his foot were on the line, it'd have been all over the news.

The 3-point line isn't obscured at all, so how could his foot be on it? :)

I know that, you know that, the Kansas Jayhawks and Memphis Tigers know that. Hell, pretty much the whole country knows that. But there is this poster (goes by the handle Hawk Hater) on another bb that I have been on for years who actually suggested that. He is also hanging onto the fact that KU supposedly had the easiest road ever to the Final Four by playing all those lower seeds. :rolleyes:

His latest deal is suggesting that the game was fixed. :doh!:

I think he's just trolling you.

I hope you shared my OP with him.

Bob Dole spent almost 45 seconds of his valuable time creating that one. If it's not good enough, too bad.

Of that, I have no doubt. I have told him that many times over the years (been on that bb for about 7 years or so). Still, I like to rub the facts in his face. :D

Yep.

Thanks. Since I am out of work, I had some time on my hands, and if the info helps anyone, I am glad.

Doesn't he seem like he has probably wacked a few people in his day? Or at least duct taped them and stuffed them in a trunk.

I don't really see how anyone can disagree with the fact that KU had some cards fall their way a little bit. Sometimes the best team doesn't win. I don't think Davidson would have finished anywhere in the top 5-6 in the Big East. I think Gtown would have presented a tougher matchup for KU. Same being said for Wisc. But hey they couldn't win the games they were supposed to and they got knocked out.

Now if KU played like they did in the Final 4 they would have easily gone undefeated. They played their best bball when they had to, which is the most important.

I just want to thank Sasha Kaun.. without him no championship for KU.

One of the greatest, underrated jayhawks.

I am always amazed at how fast he can run the court, and how well he moves his feet. And he catches everything thrown at him. I would love to see him go to a team like Phoenix.

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this also wouldn't have been the path we would have taken if we didn't beat Texas in the Big 12 Championship in order for us to get the #1 seed

I still can't find the student athlete portion of the post game press conference for KU. I have heard the entire press conference for Memphis, and I have heard the Bill Self portion of the post game press conference, but can't find the players.

Does anyone have a link? Please?