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philfree 04-25-2008 02:13 PM

The 3rd round picks and the one at the top of the 4th
 
Could be huge if the Chiefs can hit on those picks. Should be a few good Gs and Cs available. This draft is suppossed to have alot of mid round talent so here's to hoping that we score.

PhilFree:arrow:

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:14 PM

In my ideal world, we'll go for a third rotational DE (Chris Ellis), some interior line help (Eric Young), a great deep threat (Eddie Royal), and a perfect Cover 2 corner (Trae Williams).

The Franchise 04-25-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709022)
In my ideal world, we'll go for a third rotational DE (Chris Ellis), some interior line help (Eric Young), a great deep threat (Eddie Royal), and a perfect Cover 2 corner (Trae Williams).

Tab that with the first two rounds like this and you have a damn fine draft.

1a. Chris Long/Sedrick Ellis
1b. Chris Williams
2. James Hardy/Antoine Cason
3a. Chris Ellis
3b. Eric Young
3c. Eddie Royal
4. Trae Williams

eazyb81 04-25-2008 02:17 PM

I'd like to see us package one of the 3rd with one or two of our late round picks to move into the 2nd.

This draft is pretty deep and it looks like some good talent may end up falling out of the 1st round.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4709026)
Tab that with the first two rounds like this and you have a damn fine draft.

1a. Chris Long/Sedrick Ellis
1b. Chris Williams
2. James Hardy/Antoine Cason
3a. Chris Ellis
3b. Eric Young
3c. Eddie Royal
4. Trae Williams

:grovel:

Mecca 04-25-2008 02:20 PM

Man I really don't like James Hardy...

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2008 02:21 PM

I would package one of our 3rds with #17 to move up in the first round.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4709041)
Man I really don't like James Hardy...

6'6", 4.4 speed?

We've had eye witness accounts on this board who say he's the real deal?

Solid production against solid competition?

What's not to like? I'd be nothing short of enthralled if he made it to us -- which he won't.

Mecca 04-25-2008 02:22 PM

I don't believe he even remotely plays at 4.4, I've seen them play several times he never separates. To me he is like a TE as a WR he makes plays on the ball because of his size and strength to take it away not because he separates.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4709049)
I don't believe he even remotely plays at 4.4, I've seen them play several times he never separates. To me he is like a TE as a WR he makes plays on the ball because of his size and strength to take it away not because he separates.

I think he's still going to have that massive size advantage in the NFL.

The Franchise 04-25-2008 02:24 PM

Well then you could take out James Hardy and put in Antoine Cason....and it would still be an amazing draft.

philfree 04-25-2008 02:26 PM

One of those 4 picks would look good on Jerome Simpson. Also would like Zuttah and or Rachel for Gs and Godfrey as a CB.

PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca 04-25-2008 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709055)
I think he's still going to have that massive size advantage in the NFL.

I've seen plenty of big guys not make it, if you can't separate in the NFL you will struggle.

Pitt Gorilla 04-25-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4709026)
Tab that with the first two rounds like this and you have a damn fine draft.

1a. Chris Long/Sedrick Ellis
1b. Chris Williams
2. James Hardy/Antoine Cason
3a. Chris Ellis
3b. Eric Young
3c. Eddie Royal
4. Trae Williams

Long or Dorsey + Williams or Clady in the first would be perfect.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4709062)
I've seen plenty of big guys not make it, if you can't separate in the NFL you will struggle.

I still say it's worth it. The speed that tanks your big guys is in the Jarrett/Sweed range. Hardy covers more ground than both of them in less time. He can make it.

Best thing about him is that Indiana's not a football factory. He's got loads of upside with route-running and finding space.

The Franchise 04-25-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 4709065)
Long or Dorsey + Williams or Clady in the first would be perfect.

I'd be happy with Long/Dorsey/Ellis with our first pick. I don't want Clady though.

Coogs 04-25-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709045)
Solid production against solid competition?

Isn't Indiana in the Big 10? :D

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:30 PM

Clady's good value at 17. If he's there the Chiefs WILL pull the trigger.

I bet he ends up in Denver, though.

KevB 04-25-2008 02:31 PM

I honestly never watched an Indiana game, but I've watched several videos of the guy. I was skeptical, but I'm a believer at this point. I understand these videos are the highlights, but he seems to play fast enough given his size. I think his size makes him look slower than he actually is, a little Randy Moss-like. I'd love to see him become a Chief with that 35th pick.

Mecca 04-25-2008 02:33 PM

He's going to the Steelers anyway, Ben basically demanded a big WR.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 4709074)
I honestly never watched an Indiana game, but I've watched several videos of the guy. I was skeptical, but I'm a believer at this point. I understand these videos are the highlights, but he seems to play fast enough given his size. I think his size makes him look slower than he actually is, a little Randy Moss-like. I'd love to see him become a Chief with that 35th pick.

I'd say it's a little Moss-like. Moss has incredible strides and just glides effortlessly. Hardy is more of a power runner.

But the comparison is between tall receivers who run fast. I'd take it.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4709079)
He's going to the Steelers anyway, Ben basically demanded a big WR.

Wouldn't surprise me.

I doubt he falls past the 49ers. It's a pipe dream that he gets to us.

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2008 02:35 PM

I was going to say that too. Hardy is perfect for the Steelers, they have the speed guy in Holmes and the slot with Ward and then Hardy.

The Franchise 04-25-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709084)
Wouldn't surprise me.

I doubt he falls past the 49ers. It's a pipe dream that he gets to us.

What if they decide to take Quentin Groves with their 1st round pick?

Mecca 04-25-2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4709094)
What if they decide to take Quentin Groves with their 1st round pick?

He's fallen some apparently, it wouldn't surprise me but they need O.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4709094)
What if they decide to take Quentin Groves with their 1st round pick?

Then he's on the fast track to KC.

Highly unlikely, though. And if they took Hardy over Groves, Groves will be snatched up in a heartbeat by Miami.

Rain Man 04-25-2008 02:49 PM

If we can get one solid starter out of those picks, I'd be quite happy.

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4709114)
If we can get one solid starter out of those picks, I'd be quite happy.

Awwww...

We should snatch about 4-6 starters out of this Draft in 2008.

Wouldn't surprise me if two handfuls of them were starting by 2010.

Nightfyre 04-25-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709118)
Awwww...

We should snatch about 4-6 starters out of this Draft in 2008.

Wouldn't surprise me if two handfuls of them were starting by 2010.

Can you hold a DT in two hands?

Rain Man 04-25-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709118)
Awwww...

We should snatch about 4-6 starters out of this Draft in 2008.

Wouldn't surprise me if two handfuls of them were starting by 2010.

I watched the NFL Network last night, and they said that Jimmy Johnson got 9 starters out of 2 drafts in the early 90s, or 4.5 per year. It was rated the 2nd-best draft in the history of the NFL.

Perhaps we'll get more starters than average just because we have enormous, gaping holes at RT, RG, WR, CB, and DE, but I'm not convinced that we can beat the #2 draft classes of all time.

The Franchise 04-25-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4709098)
Then he's on the fast track to KC.

Highly unlikely, though. And if they took Hardy over Groves, Groves will be snatched up in a heartbeat by Miami.

That's why I think they pass on Hardy and grab Groves. They know damn well that Miami will take him at the top of the 2nd. If they grab Groves...they can address WR in the 2nd or 3rd round. Plus with Martz as the OC....won't they be looking for more explosive WRs instead of tall possession types.

I am in no way calling Hardy either of those. I don't know a lot about him.

Mecca 04-25-2008 05:01 PM

Most of those guys ended up being pro bowlers.....it's the level of the starter.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-25-2008 05:11 PM

Hardy is a bigger Marcus Colston

milkman 04-25-2008 09:35 PM

As a long sufferung Chief fan, I have every confidence that these guys will **** it up.

SBK 04-25-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4709869)
As a long sufferung Chief fan, I have every confidence that these guys will **** it up.

Shutup already, you're pissing in our Cheerios over here. :cuss:

Ultra Peanut 04-25-2008 10:12 PM

With how loaded this draft is, we have the opportunity to do some amazing things.

Don417 04-27-2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 4709017)
Could be huge if the Chiefs can hit on those picks. Should be a few good Gs and Cs available. This draft is suppossed to have alot of mid round talent so here's to hoping that we score.

PhilFree:arrow:

Good callROFL


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