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keg in kc 05-16-2008 03:39 AM

I think this is great...

(And I'm particularly happy they're starting it with two shows I'm really excited about this fall/winter)

Fox yells 'cut' on commercials

Two new shows will have reduced ad time

By Paul J. Gough and James Hibberd
May 15, 2008, 04:50 PM
Updated: May 15, 2008, 09:19 PM

Fox Broadcasting Co. is shaking up the commercial TV model with "Remote-Free TV."

At its upfront presentation Thursday, the network announced it will air two new drama series, J.J. Abrams' "Fringe" and Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse," with dramatically reduced commercial breaks.

"It's a simple concept and potentially revolutionary," Fox Entertainment Chairman Peter Liguori said. "We're going to have less commercials, less promotional time, and less reason for viewers to use the remote. We're going to redefine the viewing experience."

Both "Fringe" and "Dollhouse" would have network commercial loads of about five minutes per hour, about half the usual. The commercial pods would also be shorter and they would have about half the promo load as well.

In an interview after the presentation, Fox Entertainment President Kevin Reilly acknowledged that "Remote-Free TV" was a risk but there needed to be a "paradigm shift" in network TV.

Cutting down commercials will make the two already pricey sci-fi series even more expensive as they have to produce longer episodes. To offset that and the reduced commercial inventory, the network is planning to charge advertisers a premium.

Ad buyers were generally upbeat about the idea, and said they liked the two shows picked.

"We're always clamoring for an uncluttered environment," said Carat Media's Andy Donchin. But he said that wanted to see how much of a premium would be placed on it.

"It would be nice if it was one (new) and one (existing)," another media buyer said, "but that may not be economically feasible."

"Fringe" and "Dollhouse" highlight Fox's slate of six new series for the 2008-09 season -- two dramas, three comedies and an unscripted show, the most any broadcaster presented at the upfronts .

Once again, the network will launch its fall season earlier than most competitors.

During the week of Aug. 25, Fox will air special two-hour premiere episodes of several series, including "Prison Break" and "Fringe." "Dollhouse," which only wrapped up its pilot last Friday, will launch in January.

"We have high expectations for this," Reilly said of "Fringe." A large-scale marketing campaign for the series was launched Thursday.

As for "Dollhouse," Reilly said that he was "confident that this will become the next tentpole series for Fox."

The addition of "Fringe" and "Dollhouse" to "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" makes for a sci-fi-heavy lineup, but Reilly said he's confident they can find broad audiences. "I don't think any of these are hard genre shows," he said.

The two-hour "24" prequel movie also will air in the fall. Liguori described the stand-alone movie as "an E-ticket ride" that will help cue up the return of the series in January.

On Thursdays, "Moment of Truth" will air at 8 p.m., going up against CBS's top-rated reality show "Survivor." The game show will be followed by the return of "Kitchen Nightmares."

Reilly had no qualms about taking on "Survivor." "It's eroding, its an older show, it's eventually going to give up and we're trying to accelerate thatHello - commatard on the loose." he said.

Reilly also said that next season, the "Idol" results show would be predominantly a half-hour. He said the pairing with "Idol" could be one of several shows, including "Boldly Going Nowhere," which will be shot in the fall and "Outnumbered," which recently shot a pilot.

Liguori said he's satisfied with the creative quality of "Idol" this season, but not its ratings, which have recently hit a string of five-year lows.

"Every season we're able to reset the table, and I can assure you the network and the producers really want to take a look at the show for next year and inject it with new levels of energy and more unpredictable twist and turns," he said.

Absent from the schedule is sitcom "Back to You," which Fox canceled last week. Reilly defended keeping the lower-rated sitcom "Til Death" over the Kelsey Grammer comedy, and admitted that cast salaries were a factor.

"With its proximity to 'Idol,' the expectations were higher (for 'Back to You')," he said. "The show did not really strike a chord. Creatively, it was a mixed bag. We're looking to find that next generation of comedy hits and it just did not feel like it would fit into that mix."

keg in kc 05-16-2008 03:42 AM

Some previews.

Fringe:

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keg in kc 05-16-2008 03:44 AM

Dollhouse:

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beavis 05-16-2008 03:54 AM

The freeview channels do something simliar over here. Commercials aren't nearly as annoying if it's 2 minutes every half hour.

keg in kc 05-16-2008 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis (Post 4753163)
The freeview channels do something simliar over here. Commercials aren't nearly as annoying if it's 2 minutes every half hour.

I wish they did that on BBC America. Sucks to be watching Life on Mars or Robin Hood and having commercial breaks wedged into weird spots in the drama. Same goes for Dr. Who on SciFi.

007 05-16-2008 04:04 AM

Hello - commatard on the loose. attack. ROFL

007 05-16-2008 04:05 AM

When they say less promos, are they talking about commercials for their network shows or all the annoying promo popups during shows?

keg in kc 05-16-2008 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 4753169)
When they say less promos, are they talking about commercials for their network shows or all the annoying promo popups during shows?

I'm sure they mean commercials for their shows.

I hate those popups, too.

007 05-16-2008 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4753170)
I'm sure they mean commercials for their shows.

I hate those popups, too.

Hell, anymore they take up half the screen.

beavis 05-16-2008 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4753164)
I wish they did that on BBC America. Sucks to be watching Life on Mars or Robin Hood and having commercial breaks wedged into weird spots in the drama. Same goes for Dr. Who on SciFi.

It's on E4 over here, so I doubt they show it on BBC back home, but watch for a show called "The Inbetweeners". It's the funniest damn thing I've seen in a while.

Fire Me Boy! 05-16-2008 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 4753169)
When they say less promos, are they talking about commercials for their network shows or all the annoying promo popups during shows?

Fewer spots for network shows. Those "popups" are called snipes.

Demonpenz 05-16-2008 07:58 AM

the snipes are confusing for a guy like me. I remember some lady walked accross the screen at the bottom of csi or something one time and I was like. How the **** is csi going to explain a 5 inch tall lady

Frazod 05-16-2008 08:36 AM

More than anything else, Fox needs to curtail the promos for its own shows. I refused to watch 24 for years simply because the over-saturation of promotional spots during the World Series made me insane.

"Strike one, and don't forget, 24 starts next Sunday. Ball one, and remember, 24 is just around the corner!" Then you'd get a 24 promo to start the commercial break, a 24 promo to end the commercial break, a pop-up promo, and then more pimping by the announcers.

I don't react well to that shit.

Adept Havelock 05-16-2008 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 4753298)
More than anything else, Fox needs to curtail the promos for its own shows. I refused to watch 24 for years simply because the over-saturation of promotional spots during the World Series made me insane.

"Strike one, and don't forget, 24 starts next Sunday. Ball one, and remember, 24 is just around the corner!" Then you'd get a 24 promo to start the commercial break, a 24 promo to end the commercial break, a pop-up promo, and then more pimping by the announcers.

I don't react well to that shit.

24! Apply directly to the forehead! :doh!:

keg in kc 05-16-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 4753298)
More than anything else, Fox needs to curtail the promos for its own shows. I refused to watch 24 for years simply because the over-saturation of promotional spots during the World Series made me insane.

I'm pretty sure you were insane long before that.

KCChiefsMan 05-16-2008 09:18 AM

good

Frazod 05-16-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4753351)
I'm pretty sure you were insane long before that.

OK. But it did make me yell and throw things at the TV.

keg in kc 05-16-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 4753358)
OK. But it did make me yell and throw things at the TV.

That sounds like me during Chiefs games about 10 years ago, back before all the losing burned the "caring" out of me.

Phobia 05-16-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 4753269)
How the **** is csi going to explain a 5 inch tall lady

Are you kidding? I turned that episode off because I was sure she was the perpetrator.

acesn8s 05-16-2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4753164)
I wish they did that on BBC America. Sucks to be watching Life on Mars or Robin Hood and having commercial breaks wedged into weird spots in the drama. Same goes for Dr. Who on SciFi.

They took my BBC America away.:deevee:

I miss my Top Gear and Gordon Ramsey.

Skip Towne 05-16-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by acesn8s (Post 4753415)
They took my BBC America away.:deevee:

I miss my Top Gear and Gordon Ramsey.

Them bastards!

chasedude 05-16-2008 10:32 AM

I have a better idea. Make all the commercials come on the last ten minutes of the hour. I will know ahead of time to hit the mute button to save my distaste for another Target commercial.

keg in kc 05-16-2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acesn8s (Post 4753415)
They took my BBC America away.:deevee:

I miss my Top Gear and Gordon Ramsey.

I thought they'd taken mine away, too, but it turns out they just moved it to channel 200-something.

fucking Time Warner.

whoman69 05-16-2008 01:08 PM

This is a pretty safe bet on Fox's part by getting some publicity for programs nobody has even heard of. Pretty much all network commercials are pimping other shows for that network. Fox is one of the worst offenders. Nothing that says they can't use this gimmick to bring in a fanbase and then go right back to business as usual. I would be very surprised if they used this strategy as an overall network decision.


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