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Falcons sign Ryan to $72M contract
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Just F'ing insane. No way a rookie should ever make that much money. I hope that the owners get this resolved in the next CBA.
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The Falcons sound really desperate, or stupid, to give him that much. He's unproven yet in the NFL, so many have flopped in the past.
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So, his contract is in the ballpark of Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger?
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I'm sure this will have some effect on Dorsey's contract.
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Carl just fell out of his chair.
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Holy shit... God I hope Gholston isn't signed for much. We need our floor as low as possible.
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I'm curious as to what Dorsey's getting. Hopefully it's six years, and if so I'd have to guess something in the region of $52-54 million with $22-24 million guaranteed.
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Looks like prices at Home Depot will go up about 5% across the board.
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Well, that will toss a wrench in everyone's plans, but I'm damn sure this will mess with Carl so badly he will not be able to get anything done...
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Carl's just going to have to pay Dorsey what he's worth. There isn't any way around it.
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Thanks for ****ing us in the neck Arthur Blank. **** Home Depot. Go Lowes!
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Ah crap. Here comes the annual first round hold out for Carl now. Thanks Atlanta.
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This, of course, is part of why teams want to renegotiate the CBA. Slotted rookie salaries makes a helluva lot of sense, and I have no idea why the union would oppose them. It makes no sense for a rookie to get more than anybody except a multiple pro bowl veteran.
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The Dorsey holdout just began.
NO way the King is going to actually pay Dorsey what he's worth. Blank just fucked every other team in the league. |
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It's not Peterson. It's the cheap organization. We'll see if anything has changed.
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This is why the old CBA had to go. The NFL needs to get their act together and implement and NBA style rookie pay scale.
He has a larger contract than the new one Romo just signed...the system is broken. |
Not only does this set the bar insanely high this year, but if Brodie doesn't pan out and we have to draft a QB next year, we will be double-effed by this.
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Matt Ryan Leaf
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Anyone else want to go in on a congratulatory set of Pitt Bulls I'm going to send ryan? I figure 20 should last him 2months or so.
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Arthur just beat Al to the punch is all. Either way, Dorsey was going to cost us a shit-ton of cash. |
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I don't think this will have much impact on Dorsey. Long signed for $57 million with $30 million guaranteed. QB's will always make more money than anyone else.
I agree though that the NFL does need to do what the NBA does as far as rookie slotting. |
how many years before a rookie gets the biggest contract in the league?
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So for some of these top rookies it is important to get the money while they can...especially since contracts in the NFL aren't guaranteed like the NBA and mostly in the MLB. I don't know what they can do...other than maybe guaranteeing two year contracts or giving the players SOME leverage...or giving the team that drafted you your rights for 4 or 5 years like the NBA...it's just more difficult in the NFL. |
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Leaf was a miserable failure in part because he had the emotional maturity of a 3 year old. Ryan is the exact opposite. He is the definition of mature, calm, cool and collected. He has tremendous leadership skills. |
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Lets say LJ played out his rookie contract and the foot injury happened his final season...he only signed for what, like 7 million total for the first 5 years he was in the NFL? Yeah, 7 million is a lot to you or me but when guys like Brian Cardinal are making 50 million dollars for 6 years of NBA service...I can see why the NFL guys ask for so much money when they are top picks...or holdout after breakout seasons...the organizations always have all of the leverage. |
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Like most jobs they need to start at the low end and maybe only do 3 yr contracts. |
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NFL will resist guaranteed contracts to the death, and rightly so. Guaranteed contracts have destroyed baseball and basketball, IMHO. I'm not saying rookies should be paid peanuts, but the draft is ridiculously topheavy -- 1st round picks make 100x 3rd rounders, who generally get little/no guaranteed money, and top of hte 1st round get paid like they're proven vets. I'm not arguign to reduce the cap, I'm just saying the $$ should be redistribution as between vets and rookies. |
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In a perfect world, they would pay based off of performance in all pro sports...but then it would turn into a TO circus of everyone becoming me, me, me, me... Either way, the NFL is HUGE...and the players get treated far worse (money wise) than any other major American sport. And in all reality, football does the most long term damage to these players as well... |
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The economics of the other sports are VERY different. 82 or 162 games versus 16. 12 players or 25 players versus 53. Tom Brady makes less than JD Drew or something silly like that. Garnett/Pierce/Allen ALL make more than ANY NFL player. And the reason is 100% because NFL economics are very different. In baseball you have a 25 man roster, but only about 13 matter ALL that much, and with about 4 superstars you are a dominant team. Basketball -- 5 guys on the court at any point in time, and 12 people total on the team. Football -- 22 starts, plus special teamers. Your great QB doesn't matter worth a damn without an OLine and some decent WRs. It goes on and on. The economics just aren't the same. |
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The NFL does have an NFL-wide perofrmance based bonus, but it's relatively small dollars, and only applicable to younger players -- like first 3 years. And yes, football does do more bodily damage than any toher sport. That's obvious. |
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NBA players earn a lot more because they have 15 men on their rosters instead of 53. Even with NFL revenue being much higher, NFL players are never going to earn as much as an NBA player. But yeah, you can't blame the player for wanting as much money as they can get, thats why the system needs to be fixed. |
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But a guy like Michael Strahan who was only worth like $20M last year during his divorce case... Yikes. You'd think the star players would have more than the $100M+ Tim Salmon made during his MLB playing days LMAO |
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Teams are starting to be smarter with the money they spend...this was the best year for the NBA since Jordan's last year, by far. |
Vick must of had to pay some of that bonus money back
after all |
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The NBA uses Larry Bird rights to do this, but that wouldn't work with a hard cap. |
They paid him more than the #1 overall got I believe.
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if it was up to the owners the NFL would already have one. |
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the owners want one and the players are blocking it |
Ridiculous contract
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The chance Dorsey isn't worth a 10th of what he'll get is not small. Being a first round pick doesn't mean he'll be great. |
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or even the mother of 1st round shite hype: http://grg51.typepad.com/photos/unca.../27/890424.jpg I think Dorsey will be something special. That's a large part gut though, we need some pudding. |
that is f'in reeruned.....Vet players have to understand how screwed up that is...
the only thing the NBA does better than the NFL is the rookie salary structure....a win win for Franchises and Vets..... that is 10-15 mill that could have gone to older, proven players..... |
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The players won't agree to any of that because they see it as taking money out of the league.
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If the owners wanna do something the first thing they need to do is fix the sharing so there isn't a have and have not system in the cap. If the cap keeps going up eventually you'll have 10 teams right on it and everyone else way under it..
The Chiefs can't spend with the Cowboys. |
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It's already that way. |
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This getting done properly is essential to the future of the Chiefs, if it stays like it is now they will become a have not team. |
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Sure it is different but if I am not mistaken Carl has historically had the Chiefs near the cap and often over the cap. It is only the last two years that the Chiefs have been well under the cap. I don't see ownership as cheap; I see Carl as foolish with the money. Really take a moment and think about Hicks' last contract or any of the old CBs we have bought in free-agency since Carter and Hasty departed. For all the talk of being a tough SOB negotiator Carl has gotten the shaft on a lot of signings.
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I have a question on this topic. In this story on nfl.com, it said, "The Falcons' haste in finalizing the deal with Ryan received a boost when word leaked the NFL owners, who met Tuesday in Atlanta, were about to opt out of a labor deal with the players' union in 2011. Before the owners' unanimous vote, the deal could not have gone through 2013.
The Falcons and Ryan's agent, Tom Condon, already had agreed on six years as the basis for their deal, and to make that happen they needed to complete the negotiations by Tuesday. "We couldn't have gotten a six-year contract if we didn't get this deal done by 4 today," Blank said." So what does that mean for the rest of the nfl teams? |
How in the world are the Falcons going to sign all of the rest of their draft picks? Just the pro rated portion of his signing bonus is right at 5.8 million a year. And from an ESPN article, I got these figures on what teams salary caps for rookies are. That includes all drafted rookies and all free agent rookies that are signed. Chiefs are Number one in cap space this season and Falcons were number two, but my goodness...
KC 12(picks) $8,221,790 ATL 11(picks) $7,918,670 |
The salary cap is meaningless.
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I really feel that there should be a Rookie Salary Cap to handle this crap. I understand why verteran players are getting so upset with these rookie contracts. I mean they haven't proven shit to anyone, and if they want a huge contract they should earn it.
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Its really hard to believe that a rookie contract cap hasnt been implemented yet, this is reeruned.
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I have to go on record, and say that I think Atlanta has made a huge mistake.
Trying to recover from this Mike Vick crap has really caused this organization to make some bad moves. Passing on Dorsey, for what I predict will be a huge bust in Ryan, and then paying him Manning money. Unbelievable. I think this will set them back for many years.....**** em. Thanks for Dorsey dumbasses. |
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These shirts have a sweaty Matt Ryan with his black eye stripes holding his shoulder pads, similar to what you'd see during a game from the sidelines---in his Falcons uniform. Poor guy is already being touted as the face of the franchise and he's not even taken a training camp snap. :LOL: |
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I was listening to espn or maybe it was the nfl network the other day and they said that i first salary cap in 93 was 34 million dollars, which is the amount of Ryan's bonus today..... Just blows my mind
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Sims can by Krispie Kreams for decades
Ryan can by Kripie KReam franchies for decades |
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