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The Bad Guy 08-13-2008 04:36 PM

Dynasty League Rankings
 
I'm in a newly formed dynasty league and was wondering if anyone knew a site that had comprehensive rankings?

This is my first dynasty league. I have the 9th pick. 35 rounds. You keep the same team every year.

So far the draft has gone.

1- Steven Jax
2- Brian Westbrook (there was a site screwup so he had to take him, long story)
3- AP
4- LT
5- Marion Barber
6- Joseph Addai
7- Marshawn Lynch
8- Tom Brady
9 - My Pick

Who would you take?

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 04:40 PM

http://fantasynews.sportsline.com/fa...ankings/top200

rad 08-13-2008 04:46 PM

I wish I was in this league.........

The Franchise 08-13-2008 04:46 PM

Damn....LJ at #2 huh?

The Franchise 08-13-2008 04:49 PM

Brady is kind of old to be taking in the 1st round of a dynasty league. Is it a snaking draft or no?

rad 08-13-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4912810)
Damn....LJ at #2 huh?

What?

I can't get past Jackson at #1

The Franchise 08-13-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rad (Post 4912817)
What?

I can't get past Jackson at #1

It's a dynasty so I can KIND of see that happening. I would have taken about 3 other backs over Jackson...but that's not my point. A close to 30 RB that just came off of an injury...and is on a anemic offense....and you take him #2 in your Dynasty league? Over LT!?

The Bad Guy 08-13-2008 05:35 PM

It is snaking.

Brady is old, but I can see him playing 5-6 more years. If I'm in this league longer than that, I'll be amazed.

The Franchise 08-13-2008 05:55 PM

How old is Westbrook?

The Bad Guy 08-13-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4912881)
How old is Westbrook?

28, but he's got 100x more wear and tear on his body than Brady.

This all depends on the next pick. I think Westy will be gone anyway.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 10:52 AM

Well now I'm up. Both Brady and Westy are gone, so I'm debating on who to take.

LJ is there, Moss is there. I'm leaning toward Moss. Anyone have any other ideas?

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914201)
Well now I'm up. Both Brady and Westy are gone, so I'm debating on who to take.

LJ is there, Moss is there. I'm leaning toward Moss. Anyone have any other ideas?

I'd be a little concerned taking any WR, especially a 31-year old, as the cornerstone of my dynasty team.

I understand that the absolute top guys are gone but I'd have to consider Peyton, LJ, Portis, maybe even Frank Gore.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914218)
I'd be a little concerned taking any WR, especially a 31-year old, as the cornerstone of my dynasty team.

I understand that the absolute top guys are gone but I'd have to consider Peyton, LJ, Portis, maybe even Frank Gore.

I want Romo on the snake back, so I really don't want Manning. I'm just not thrilled with Portis or Gore. I think there are tons of young guys out there at RB that I can get later.

Ahh, decisions, decisions.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914233)
I want Romo on the snake back, so I really don't want Manning. I'm just not thrilled with Portis or Gore. I think there are tons of young guys out there at RB that I can get later.

Ahh, decisions, decisions.

I'd probably go with Maurice Jones Drew, unless you're worried about Romo being there.

I'd hate to use a 1st on him, but Braylon Edwards could be considered as well.

Bowser 08-14-2008 11:16 AM

I think I'd go Frank Gore. He's going to be catching a TON of balls in Martz's system, and we all know he can pound the rock.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4914265)
I think I'd go Frank Gore. He's going to be catching a TON of balls in Martz's system, and we all know he can pound the rock.

He's going to HAVE to catch 100 balls to make up for Martz abandoning the run early in games.

8 carries a game isn't going to cut it, and I'd be concerned about his injury history.

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914273)
He's going to HAVE to catch 100 balls to make up for Martz abandoning the run early in games.

8 carries a game isn't going to cut it, and I'd be concerned about his injury history.

Meh - he's missed 1 game in the last 2 years. Outside of LT show me any RB who hasn't missed games during the regular season.

Bowser 08-14-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914273)
He's going to HAVE to catch 100 balls to make up for Martz abandoning the run early in games.

8 carries a game isn't going to cut it, and I'd be concerned about his injury history.

Considering his past output, injury history, and where Bad Guy is drafting, I think it would be a solid pick. But that's just IMHO.

Moss and Braylon Edwards would be tempting, as well. If Maurice Jones-Drew were guaranteed to not split time with Taylor, he'd be the no brainer there.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914283)
Meh - he's missed 1 game in the last 2 years. Outside of LT show me any RB who hasn't missed games during the regular season.


My mistake - you're absolutely right. I thought he had missed significant time last year.

I guess it just appeared that way, since he was all but invisible on the field.

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914293)
My mistake - you're absolutely right. I thought he had missed significant time last year.

I guess it just appeared that way, since he was all but invisible on the field.

That whole team was invisible. Mike Martz offers reason to believe improvement is a real possibility.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4914265)
I think I'd go Frank Gore. He's going to be catching a TON of balls in Martz's system, and we all know he can pound the rock.

I'm just really torn. I hate to use a first rounder on players that I'm not big fans of. I think Gore, while a decent option, is doomed in SF because of a horrid line. Same with LJ this year.

I think I can get 3 really good years out of Moss. It's a PPR league, so that helps.

Still have some time to decide.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4914292)
Considering his past output, injury history, and where Bad Guy is drafting, I think it would be a solid pick. But that's just IMHO.

Moss and Braylon Edwards would be tempting, as well. If Maurice Jones-Drew were guaranteed to not plit time with Taylor, he'd be the no brainer there.

Even splitting time, he's scoring WAY more than Gore has, and IIRC, last year was the first year in quite a while that Taylor didn't miss time with an injury.

Personally, I think he'll get more than enough work to make the pick worthwhile - and I have ZERO faith in any RB in a Mike Martz system.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914300)
That whole team was invisible. Mike Martz offers reason to believe improvement is a real possibility.

Their coordinator was about as bad as it gets last year.

So I see that point.

I just worry about Gore's injury history in college too.

OntheWar, did you get my PM from the other day?

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914304)
Even splitting time, he's scoring WAY more than Gore has, and IIRC, last year was the first year in quite a while that Taylor didn't miss time with an injury.

Personally, I think he'll get more than enough work to make the pick worthwhile - and I have ZERO faith in any RB in a Mike Martz system.

MJD will likely still be there in the 3rd, so I can hold off on him.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914306)
Their coordinator was about as bad as it gets last year.

So I see that point.

I just worry about Gore's injury history in college too.

OntheWar, did you get my PM from the other day?

Lemme check.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:26 AM

Yes, I got the PM.

No, I haven't found the patches.

Sorry.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914309)
MJD will likely still be there in the 3rd, so I can hold off on him.

I'm trying to think of ONE running back who has a better combination of youth and talent, much less another 2 1/2 rounds worth.

Unless you're playing with monkeys, the kind of RB's left in the 3rd will be of the Edgerrin James, Thomas Jones and Jamal Lewis variety.

Bowser 08-14-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914302)
I'm just really torn. I hate to use a first rounder on players that I'm not big fans of. I think Gore, while a decent option, is doomed in SF because of a horrid line. Same with LJ this year.

I think I can get 3 really good years out of Moss. It's a PPR league, so that helps.

Still have some time to decide.

Yeah, you're kind of in no man's land. If Donte Stallworth hadn't gashed Edwards' foot, I'd be tempted to take him. You know Moss is going to put up numbers, LJ MIGHT return to form, lots of QBs you could take..... not a slam dunk choice. I'd say it would have to be a RB or Cube. Womever you take, the guy you pass on will probably have a career year. It's just how things work. :D

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914304)
Even splitting time, he's scoring WAY more than Gore has, and IIRC, last year was the first year in quite a while that Taylor didn't miss time with an injury.

Personally, I think he'll get more than enough work to make the pick worthwhile - and I have ZERO faith in any RB in a Mike Martz system.

I think we basically agree, even though Steve Jax was a monster in Martz's system. I think his holdout is going to bring him down a bit, but not much.

The question for Bad Guy is if he DID take Jones-Drew, would his yardage on kickoffs be included (I'm assuming they would be)?

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 11:49 AM

He said it's a PPR league and MJD hasn't had more than 167 rushes nor has he topped 1,000 yards in a single season.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 11:57 AM

No kickoff yardage.

I'm down to LJ or Gore for this pick. Gore had a better year last year than I realized.

Decisions, decisions.

I'm planning on taking Romo on the way back, so I have to nail this pick.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 12:00 PM

Went with Gore. 25 years old. Hopefully he's a stud for Martz.

Thanks for the help guys.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914379)
He said it's a PPR league and MJD hasn't had more than 167 rushes nor has he topped 1,000 yards in a single season.

He was speaking of Moss at the time, so I can only assume he meant point per reception.

Though, if they are giving points per reception, they are like doing the same per rush.

Regardless, MJD is only averaging about 5 fewer touches per game over the last 2 years than Gore, not even counting the kick/punt return numbers - and has still outscored him by 9-10 TD's.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914416)
He was speaking of Moss at the time, so I can only assume he meant point per reception.

Though, if they are giving points per reception, they are like doing the same per rush.

Regardless, MJD is only averaging about 5 fewer touches per game over the last 2 years than Gore, not even counting the kick/punt return numbers - and has still outscored him by 9-10 TD's.

I think a ton of Gore's problems last year were because their OC was braindead.

It came down Gore playing in a true cakewalk division, and being 25.

I've just never been a fan of MJD.

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914416)
Regardless, MJD is only averaging about 5 fewer touches per game over the last 2 years than Gore, not even counting the kick/punt return numbers - and has still outscored him by 9-10 TD's.

Huh?

In the last 2 years Gore has played in 31 games and has had 686 touches (receptions + rushes) which = 22 touches per game.

MJD has played in 31 games and has had 419 touches = 13.5 touches per game.

Gore also has 3781yds compared to MJD's 2552.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914432)
I think a ton of Gore's problems last year were because their OC was braindead.

It came down Gore playing in a true cakewalk division, and being 25.

I've just never been a fan of MJD.

Fair enough.

I'll admit to being a bit biased towards any running "attack" Martz has his hand in, living in STL and seeing what he did to Jones in Detroit last year sealed the deal for me.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914442)
Huh?

In the last 2 years Gore has played in 31 games and has had 686 touches (receptions + rushes) which = 22 touches per game.

MJD has played in 31 games and has had 419 touches = 13.5 touches per game.

Gore also has 3781yds compared to MJD's 2552.

ROFL

I ****ed up.

I was looking at the wrong "averages" column on MJD's receptions.

10 receptions per game should have tipped me off...

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 01:00 PM

The 10th pick?

MJD.

Are you sure you're not in this league OTW?

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914568)
The 10th pick?

MJD.

Are you sure you're not in this league OTW?

ROFL

Positive.

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914568)
The 10th pick?

MJD.

Are you sure you're not in this league OTW?

Damn. I'd take LJ and Portis over MJD.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914577)
Damn. I'd take LJ and Portis over MJD.

Bush just went 11th. I think he's the biggest waste in fantasy.

I bet LJ and Portis go in the next 2 picks.

Hell, I may even get Moss on the way back.

But I really want Romo.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914577)
Damn. I'd take LJ and Portis over MJD.

Gotta think long term.

Postis hasn't been the same since he left Denver, and LJ is running behind an OL full of question marks. By the time the line is solid, LJ likely won't be.

MJD manages to get into the EZ just as much, or more than most of the RB's out there, and has a great chance of getting more touches considering Taylor is constantly missing time.

Hell, I'd bet this is Taylor's last year in the league as it is. Sooner or later, JDR will realize that MJD is the horse he should be riding...

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914592)
Bush just went 11th. I think he's the biggest waste in fantasy.

I bet LJ and Portis go in the next 2 picks.

Hell, I may even get Moss on the way back.

But I really want Romo.

Agree on Bush.

I wonder if you could get Moss here in the 2nd, and get Drew Brees in the 3rd if Romo is gone?

Brees is only a year older than Romo, and they have just as prolific an offense as Dallas does, IMO.

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914597)
Gotta think long term.

Postis hasn't been the same since he left Denver, and LJ is running behind an OL full of question marks. By the time the line is solid, LJ likely won't be.

MJD manages to get into the EZ just as much, or more than most of the RB's out there, and has a great chance of getting more touches considering Taylor is constantly missing time.

Hell, I'd bet this is Taylor's last year in the league as it is. Sooner or later, JDR will realize that MJD is the horse he should be riding...

You gotta think long term but not TOO long. Who knows how long the league will actually last and I'd mortgage the future to win now.

LJ and Portis are both under 30 and get a full workload. Last year Portis had 1200+ yds and 11TDs. Taylor is not constantly missing time. He's been a lot more durable the last 5 years missing 8 games in that span (5 of those 9 coming in 2005). As far as him slowing down? The last 2 seasons he's had a higher YPC than any of his 8 previous years.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4914607)
Agree on Bush.

I wonder if you could get Moss here in the 2nd, and get Drew Brees in the 3rd if Romo is gone?

Brees is only a year older than Romo, and they have just as prolific an offense as Dallas does, IMO.

I probably could wait.

If Moss is gone, I'll grab Romo.

If he's there, I'll take Moss, then hope to grab Brees.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914651)
I probably could wait.

If Moss is gone, I'll grab Romo.

If he's there, I'll take Moss, then hope to grab Brees.

Sounds like a good plan.

Gore, Moss and Brees would be a pretty good start, as would Gore, Braylon Edwards and Brees...

Bowser 08-14-2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914592)
Bush just went 11th. I think he's the biggest waste in fantasy.

I bet LJ and Portis go in the next 2 picks.

Hell, I may even get Moss on the way back.

But I really want Romo.

LMAO @ Bush going at 11. Bush is going to be Eric Metcalf, part deux (which isn't a bad thing, but it's not your stud running back you look for in fantasy, either).

Romo is a solid pick. He's going into his third year starting, and he's got a ton he wants to prove after the last two years of peeing down his leg in the playoffs. Keep us updated.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 01:44 PM

Moss and Portis just went on the back-to-back.

2 more picks, then I'm up again.

The only thing that annoys me is that the QB scoring in this league is way off.

Bowser 08-14-2008 01:45 PM

Braylon Edwards still there?

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4914723)
Braylon Edwards still there?

Yes.

I'm debating him heavily, but I might wait on WR.

There are tons of young WRs that will be available later on.

DaKCMan AP 08-14-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4914769)
Yes.

I'm debating him heavily, but I might wait on WR.

There are tons of young WRs that will be available later on.

Is LJ still available? That'd be value.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4914773)
Is LJ still available? That'd be value.

I'm up after this guy picks.

If Braylon goes, I'm going to take LJ.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 03:46 PM

Wayne went the pick before me.

It comes down to LJ vs. Braylon.

I think I'm going with Braylon.

OnTheWarpath15 08-14-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4915022)
Wayne went the pick before me.

It comes down to LJ vs. Braylon.

I think I'm going with Braylon.

That would be the move, IMO.

Then grab Romo/Brees in the 3rd, if available.

The Bad Guy 08-14-2008 03:49 PM

Took Edwards.

I think Brees will likely fall to me. There are 7 owners behind me on the snake that need QBs. I can't imagine half of them taking QBs.

Then I grab my 2nd back after I get my QB.

Bowser 08-14-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4915038)
Took Edwards.

I think Brees will likely fall to me. There are 7 owners behind me on the snake that need QBs. I can't imagine half of them taking QBs.

Then I grab my 2nd back after I get my QB.

Buddy of mine had Brees last year, and cleaned up with him after the first month of the season. Brees is going to be a top 4 QB stats wise with Shockey on board.

Bowser 08-14-2008 03:55 PM

1) Gore

2) Edwards

3) Romo/Brees

Shaping up nicely, if you could get one of those guys.

The Bad Guy 08-15-2008 10:11 AM

2nd round has gone:

McFadden
Colston
Manning
Romo
Chad Johnson
Brees

There are still some great players left. I'm going to wait and try to get Big Ben as my QB later on.

The Bad Guy 08-16-2008 11:10 AM

Owens, Housh, Andre Johnson, Wes Welker, Steve Smith, Witten, Steve Smith, Larry Johnson, Calvin Johnson, and Torry Holt just went before my pick.

I took Antonio Gates.

On the way back, I hope I can get Michael Turner. Only 6 more picks.


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