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dorseybowe 08-13-2008 09:48 PM

McIntosh SUX!
 
McIntosh will be a disaster at RT this year:

1) He was completely outmatched against Chicago
2) He is constantly injured; very little chance he will last 16 games
3) He whined from the very beginning about the position switch
4) He is 31 years old; not likely to improve this season

EDIT: APPLE SUX, TOO

Solutions:

1) Move Herb Taylor to RT
2) Start B-RICH!

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72743...0A659CEC4C8CB6

dj56dt58 08-13-2008 09:51 PM

ok

The Bad Guy 08-13-2008 09:53 PM

I'd cut the loses with McIntosh and start Taylor at RT.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-13-2008 09:56 PM

:D Repost

Pasta Little Brioni 08-13-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4913304)
I'd cut the loses with McIntosh and start Taylor at RT.

Agree 100%

dj56dt58 08-13-2008 09:57 PM

the whole teams is probably gonna suck this year...

though I still see us upsetting New England :D

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4913304)
I'd cut the loses with McIntosh and start Taylor at RT.

My only concern would be our depth at LT. Behind Albert would be Edwin Harrison. :shake:

ChiefsCountry 08-13-2008 09:59 PM

A few of us (milkman, OTW, mecca, me) have been saying this for a while now.

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 4913312)
the whole teams is probably gonna suck this year...

though I still see us upsetting New England :D

Every positive aspect of a Kansas City season can be discerned of as a reason to sell tickets.

Every negative aspect of a Kansas City season can be perceived of as a failure of Carl Peterson.

The circle of life.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-13-2008 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913315)
My only concern would be our depth at LT. Behind Albert would be Edwin Harrison. :shake:

Well in a pinch, I guess Herb could move back out left and have Barry Rich man down RT.

bigbucks24 08-13-2008 10:04 PM

I think us Dolphin fans are not shocked by your conclusion.

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 4913324)
Well in a pinch, I guess Herb could move back out left and have Barry Rich man down RT.

Moving Herbie back and forth like that may destroy the space-time continuum. :shake:

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 4913330)
I think us Dolphin fans are not shocked by your conclusion.

On March 13, 2004 the Dolphins signed McIntosh to a six-year, $21 million contract.

BRILLIANT! ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 08-13-2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913335)
Moving Herbie back and forth like that may destroy the space-time continuum. :shake:

Well it is a better idea than having scabs like Edwin Harrison see the field. Lets the "Rotten Apple" ride the pine as well.

Braincase 08-13-2008 10:13 PM

I was hoping for an anti-Apple thread.

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 4913350)
I was hoping for an anti-Apple thread.

Edited. :)

bigbucks24 08-13-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913340)
On March 13, 2004 the Dolphins signed McIntosh to a six-year, $21 million contract.

BRILLIANT! ROFL

I guess what i was trying to say was that when he signed with the Chiefs and a lot of fans were excited. having watched him in Miami, I figured that most of the fans would be disappointed in his results. Based on the premis of this thread, I gather that you have come to the comclusion that you are disappointed. Therefore, I am not surprised that you came to that conclusion.

Coach 08-13-2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4913304)
I'd cut the loses with McIntosh and start Taylor at RT.

It's too bad that the Chief coaches can't see it that way, for whatever reason. :shake:

Would had saved us alot of trouble, and would speed up the rebuilding process, instead of putting a guarenteed piece of shit pussy veteran who is constantly getting whipped at the LOS, not to mention that a little boo-boo, he's out for at least 2-3 weeks.

chiefs1111 08-13-2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 4913312)
the whole teams is probably gonna suck this year...

though I still see us upsetting New England :D

Keep the dream alive!!!!

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 4913369)
It's too bad that the Chief coaches can't see it that way, for whatever reason. :shake:

Would had saved us alot of trouble, and would speed up the rebuilding process, instead of putting a guarenteed piece of shit pussy veteran who is constantly getting whipped at the LOS, not to mention that a little boo-boo, he's out for at least 2-3 weeks.

When was the last time a quick-fix veteran like him actually worked out?

milkman 08-13-2008 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913377)
When was the last time a quick-fix veteran like him actually worked out?

Willie Roaf.

dorseybowe 08-13-2008 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4913386)
Willie Roaf.

I should be more clear. When I said "quick-fix," I meant a FA who signs with the intention of only playing for a team for 1-2 years. I was thinking Kyle Turley. Twice. Willie Roaf was a high dollar FA acquisition with a big multi-year contract.

milkman 08-13-2008 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913398)
I should be more clear. When I said "quick-fix," I meant a FA who signs with the intention of only playing for a team for 1-2 years. I was thinking Kyle Turley. Twice. Willie Roaf was a high dollar FA acquisition with a big multi-year contract.

Actually, he was acquired in a trade, and I don't think anyone expected to get more than a couple of years out of here.

RealSNR 08-14-2008 12:17 AM

Keep Herb at one position. I'd rather my boy not become the next Chris Bober

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4913405)
Actually, he was acquired in a trade, and I don't think anyone expected to get more than a couple of years out of here.


Roaf was probablly the best trade the chiefs ever had

RealSNR 08-14-2008 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913491)
Roaf was probablly the best trade the chiefs ever had

Though it should have been Montana :banghead::cuss:

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913491)
Roaf was probablly the best trade the chiefs ever had

I think the Cotton Davidson for a first round pick in 1963 was the best ever. It got us Buck Buchanan.

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4913497)
I think the Cotton Davidson for a first round pick in 1963 was the best ever. It got us Buck Buchanan.

Ok, I'll rephrase that

best in my lifetime


old fart

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 4913495)
Though it should have been Montana :banghead::cuss:

montana was the most exciting and sealed the deal as far as my chieffandom

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913498)
Ok, I'll rephrase that

best in my lifetime


old fart

I'm 24, I'm just stating facts.

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4913503)
I'm 24, I'm just stating facts.



get off google and get a girl

jesus

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2008 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913505)
get off google and get a girl

jesus

Actually I knew that off the top of my head. I'm not GoChiefs, geez.

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4913520)
Actually I knew that off the top of my head. I'm not GoChiefs, geez.

lol

fair enough

ChiefsCountry 08-14-2008 12:37 AM

Lol, fine I'm off to EHarmony now - I need to chat with some chick. :)

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4913524)
Lol, fine I'm off to EHarmony now - I need to chat with some chick. :)


dear lord you need to

if she knows anything about trivia you got a championship coming

Mecca 08-14-2008 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4913524)
Lol, fine I'm off to EHarmony now - I need to chat with some chick. :)

You filled it out and it said "we have no matches for you"

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913530)
You filled it out and it said "we have no matches for you"


i did that once and that's what it said

I should shoot myself

Mecca 08-14-2008 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913539)
i did that once and that's what it said

I should shoot myself

That's pretty harsh.....

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913541)
That's pretty harsh.....

I know...

I'm like you bitches, you don't know me..

Mecca 08-14-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913543)
I know...

I'm like you bitches, you don't know me..

Hey that's nothin, I don't want any kids watch what happens when you tell a woman that....or tell them you watch football on saturday and sunday and that's that.

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913548)
Hey that's nothin, I don't want any kids watch what happens when you tell a woman that....or tell them you watch football on saturday and sunday and that's that.

4 kids later I don't know how to tell a woman I don't want kids

thank god the dr. had mercy on my soul and tied her tubes

Mecca 08-14-2008 12:54 AM

I'm never having kids ever....my friends kids made me decide that.

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913563)
I'm never having kids ever....my friends kids made me decide that.


your loss

for every bad comes 9000 good

Mecca 08-14-2008 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4913566)
your loss

for every bad comes 9000 good

I'm just not a kids person, some women don't want to have them so I need to find me one of those, or a chick older than me either or.

ShortRoundChief 08-14-2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913568)
I'm just not a kids person, some women don't want to have them so I need to find me one of those, or a chick older than me either or.


fair enough, mine are the world

chiefsngop 08-14-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913568)
I'm just not a kids person, some women don't want to have them so I need to find me one of those, or a chick older than me either or.

Go with post-menopausal chicks, avoid the argument entirely !!!!s

bogey 08-14-2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913568)
I'm just not a kids person, some women don't want to have them so I need to find me one of those, or a chick older than me either or.

I don't like kids either... except my own.

TRR 08-14-2008 11:50 AM

I think consistency is better than ability when it comes to the offensive line. We need to get 5 guys playing together. KC already has 1.5 strikes against them with Albert being hurt, and McIntosh being in and out of the lineup all training camp.

If Albert can get back soon, and they move Taylor to RT right now, I am good with that. But moving guys around once the season starts, or for the final Preseason game is only going to highten the chances of repeat success from last season...regarding the O Line.

StcChief 08-14-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4913563)
I'm never having kids ever....my friends kids made me decide that.

good deal. were all happy for the lack of little Mecca's running around :D

BigRedChief 08-14-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913293)
McIntosh will be a disaster at RT this year:

1) He was completely outmatched against Chicago
2) He is constantly injured; very little chance he will last 16 games
3) He whined from the very beginning about the position switch
4) He is 31 years old; not likely to improve this season

EDIT: APPLE SUX, TOO

Solutions:

1) Move Herb Taylor to RT
2) Start B-RICH!

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72743...0A659CEC4C8CB6

Me thinks your letting your lead in the 2008 King of the Noobs race give you too much swagger.

sure Mcintosh sucks but Svitek and all the others that come before him were disasters. Which hurts our chances much more tham simple suckage.

CoMoChief 08-14-2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4913315)
My only concern would be our depth at LT. Behind Albert would be Edwin Harrison. :shake:

Behind Albert would be Herb Taylor

TRR 08-14-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 4914594)
Behind Albert would be Herb Taylor

If KC was to move Herb Taylor over to start at RT, with Albert being at LT, than McIntosh would probably be the first backup off the bench for both positions. If both got hurt, than that forces McIntosh to stay at LT, and Barry Richardson to come in and play RT.

The Taylor move wouldn't be bad. However, it should have been done a long time ago...

OctoberFart 08-14-2008 08:12 PM

Where is goqueer saying he is a very good OT? Remember his reports of how good he was last year in TC. OT's that bounce around from team to team do because they aren't very good not because of whatever excuse that pretend talent scout goqueer says.

Dayze 08-14-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 4913310)
Agree 100%

+1

Key difference between average teams and good/great teams is knowing when to cut bait. The Chiefs haven't done that in 20 years (sans Edwards); they seem to always be one or two years behind eveyone else in determining player X isn't working out.

Jesus...Svitek? WTF?....Guy hung around on 'potential'...

Chiefs PR machine is too afraid to say "F it, we screwed this one up" and move on.

Hammock Parties 08-14-2008 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 4915450)
Where is goqueer saying he is a very good OT? Remember his reports of how good he was last year in TC. OT's that bounce around from team to team do because they aren't very good not because of whatever excuse that pretend talent scout goqueer says.

He's a good pass-blocking LT, and we saw that last year in TC and during the regular season.

Not doing so well at RT. Which, BTW, I also reported during TC this year.

In short, PISS UP A ROPE.

chiefzilla1501 08-15-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 4914747)
If KC was to move Herb Taylor over to start at RT, with Albert being at LT, than McIntosh would probably be the first backup off the bench for both positions. If both got hurt, than that forces McIntosh to stay at LT, and Barry Richardson to come in and play RT.

The Taylor move wouldn't be bad. However, it should have been done a long time ago...

I agree. But it's going to take time for Taylor to learn the new position. Moving from left to right tackle requires a completely different approach to playing the position. Once you move him to right tackle, you can't go back--you can't constantly move him back and forth between left and right. It's too much to ask of the guy.

The good news is, McIntosh is a natural left tackle, so you can move McIntosh to backup left tackle and then move Herb Taylor to right tackle. The problem is, you'll have to start Barry Richardson until Taylor is ready to play a different position. I personally don't think Richardson's all that great, but I think you need to use him until Taylor can be ready to play somewhere else on the line.

I don't think Taylor is the future for the Chiefs at LT. I do think he could have a bright future on the right side of the line.

Chief Faithful 08-15-2008 08:53 PM

The saddest part he was the teams second best offensive lineman last year. McIntosh is a stop gap solution and I suspect this is his last year in KC.

BIG K 08-15-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4913304)
I'd cut the loses with McIntosh and start Taylor at RT.

Just curious, if Herbie is doing OK at LT in the place of Albert, why should the Chief's move him to RT? It seems they have no depth anywhere on the line. Why not let Herb continue to groom at LT and then if necessary, move him? I would be more interested to see Herb continue to grow at LT and give the other youngsters a chance at RT. Either way, McKnees needs to go.....

TRR 08-15-2008 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 4918250)
Just curious, if Herbie is doing OK at LT in the place of Albert, why should the Chief's move him to RT? It seems they have no depth anywhere on the line. Why not let Herb continue to groom at LT and then if necessary, move him? I would be more interested to see Herb continue to grow at LT and give the other youngsters a chance at RT. Either way, McKnees needs to go.....

Because Herb Taylor will never be the future at LT. Branden Albert is the future at LT. They drafted Albert in the first round to be the LT of the future. Herb Taylor will have to switch positions to make his mark on the Chiefs.

BIG K 08-15-2008 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 4918277)
Because Herb Taylor will never be the future at LT. Branden Albert is the future at LT. They drafted Albert in the first round to be the LT of the future. Herb Taylor will have to switch positions to make his mark on the Chiefs.


I understand that. Once Albert returns, the LT spot is his. I question why people want to move Taylor right now. Let Taylor get some experience at the LT spot until Albert is ready and then move him. Just makes sense to me to let the guy develop at a critical spot and then move him when need be. The Chief's got no one who has proved they could play LT.....

milkman 08-16-2008 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 4917862)
I agree. But it's going to take time for Taylor to learn the new position. Moving from left to right tackle requires a completely different approach to playing the position. Once you move him to right tackle, you can't go back--you can't constantly move him back and forth between left and right. It's too much to ask of the guy.

The learning curve would be minimal for Taylor since RT was his position for two years at TCU.

tmax63 08-16-2008 07:30 AM

I hate seeing Albert hurt but I do like the fact that Taylor is getting these reps at LT and not totally sucking. Having a backup LT that is functional could save a game or 2 later in the season. If he can do RT too that would be gravy but I'd give Richardson or somebody else the chance to develop into a RT first.

CoMoChief 08-16-2008 07:37 AM

We all knew Mac sucked while playing RT iin SD.

Would you expect different?

He's over 30, a vet in this league that has obviously plateaued (sp?) and won't get any better. It's dumb to start him while we have younger players that need more playing time to get better. I don't mind him as a 2nd stringer, but starting Mac is just a bad idea.

TRR 08-16-2008 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 4918406)
I understand that. Once Albert returns, the LT spot is his. I question why people want to move Taylor right now. Let Taylor get some experience at the LT spot until Albert is ready and then move him. Just makes sense to me to let the guy develop at a critical spot and then move him when need be. The Chief's got no one who has proved they could play LT.....

Because this O Line needs to get some reps together. If Taylor is going to move to RT, than he should do so sooner rather than later because consistency and continuity is what KC is missing...

The same thing happened last season. Players were always moving from one position to the other, and the O Line never had "starters."

I'm good with an O Line of Albert, Waters, Niswanger, Jones, Taylor. But I think that group has to get as many reps together as possible.

milkman 08-16-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 4918732)
We all knew Mac sucked while playing RT iin SD.

Would you expect different?

He's over 30, a vet in this league that has obviously plateaued (sp?) and won't get any better. It's dumb to start him while we have younger players that need more playing time to get better. I don't mind him as a 2nd stringer, but starting Mac is just a bad idea.


I thought I remembered seeing Mac at RT for the Chargers, but according to him and the staff, he has never played the position before.


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