Let the controversy begin
 

With the first pick in the 2009 NFL draft, Scott Wright, at least for now, thinks the Chiefs will select Matthew Stafford.

I'd like to see how Stafford plays without his left tackle. Remember, Scott Wright had Brian Brohm No. 1 overall at this time last year. He ended up correctly calling Jake Long to the Dolphins.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

stafford would be nice.

After last night, I wouldn't mind seeing us take Illinois CB Vontae Davis. I definitely think this kid has Champ Bailey potential.

I need more time to see Stafford. I'm not sure how he translates into the NFL. It would be convenient for the Chiefs if he were a consensus franchise quarterback.

The Alabama QB John Parker Wilson the other day did everything very well against Clemson, and I was originally looking at Harper.

The controversy is shaping up a little different than I expected. I expected it to be between Michael Oher and Matthew Stafford. Right now, it's between Stafford, Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez. I'm not holding my breath waiting for Sanchez and Bradford to declare.

I don't watch too much Georgia football, what offense do they run?

Sanchez is way over-rated, Bradford is a badass, and Stafford had a solid game against South Carolina.

Huh?

If 15/25 for 146 yards is solid, WTF are we bitching about Croyle for?

His WRs were dropping passes on a constant basis.

I suppose this is exhibit A from Stafford's 2007 season

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Sounds familiar...

I liked what I saw from Stafford against Arizona State. He has an accurate, strong arm. It looks like he knows where to put the ball.

Id be fine with Oher.

I think the controversy is over for now: Stafford is the guy. The Chiefs can't win with the three quarterbacks they have. All three stink regardless of the poor offensive line.

I dont agree, it all starts with the Oline, everything.

Another year with Croyle, Huard and Thigpen won't do any good. They might as well develop a quarterback and offensive line together.

The Chiefs don't want the No. 1 pick, but they need it.

Where do you put Oher? We already have a LT....

And no matter how good your line is, without a QB you're not winning anything that matters.

Slide Albert over.

I don't think Mark Sanchez should go pro after this season. He needs more experience. He had some serious issues last night when under pressure. It also doesn't look like he can match Stafford's velocity.

It will be interesting to see the extent of Rey Maualuga's injury.

Wrong answer. He's gonna be good.

He could be great at OG though. I don't get the "well he's good enough" excuse, if one has the ability to be great at another position while bringing in another player who's touted to be great from the start at the position the prior player was move from it would be logical to have the best players on the field.If that means that Albert moves back to the position where he's considered all-world at then so be it.

Albert is going to block the blindside for our next QB. He wasn't drafted to be a guard, he isn't a guard. He's a tackle.

So what? Like I said before if one can secure the line with all-world players than do it, especially if they are the BPA.

This took another turn with today's win. The Chiefs aren't a lock for the top pick. I don't think St. Louis would draft Stafford, but Miami, San Francisco and Detroit might if given the chance.

A few more wins and I'll have to start a Maualuga-Laurinitis controversy thread:D

I really don't see OT as a legit 1st round option for us after drafting Albert. We can use help on the right side at guard and tackle, but you don't draft those guys in the 1st round.

If we don't get a QB, I think the next best option would be a beastly DE like Greg Hardy. That guy has Merriman-type potential.

I've mentioned this before, if they have the ability to be perennial all-pros you pull the trigger.

By all means, let's keep ignoring the QB position. Who needs a QB to rebuild anyway?

(and no, I'm not advocating for just any QB).

I'm advocating the BPA, of course you are being selective to what I said after the Georgia/Alabama game so please go on about how I'm so rigid with my player choices.

Stafford and Bradford look pretty similar, but I see some differences. Stafford looks more like an NFL quarterback with his velocity. Something about Bradford's throwing motion doesn't remind me of an NFL quarterback. They're both accurate.

I don't think I would build my offense around a redshirt sophomore. However, I don't think Bradford will even declare for this year's draft.

I'd be concerned about the Lions ending with a worse record than the Chiefs. Their schedule has mostly playoff-caliber teams. They would draft Stafford with the top pick.

Lets hope not. Perhaps we can dream since they drafted Drew Stanton recently....:cuss:

The controversy returns!

Scott Wright's updated mock has the Chiefs selecting at No. 2 and drafting James Laurinitis.

**** Detroit.

I seriously doubt Laurinitis would be a popular pick at No. 2. I might trade down if I were the Chiefs at No. 2. Stay in the top 10 and get more picks.

With the third pick in the 2009 NFL draft, Scott Wright, at least for now, thinks the Chiefs will select Sam Bradford. Quarterback, Oklahoma.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Sam Bradford would be a disaster.

I don't like anything about him.

He's a system guy who plays on a great team so forget the stats.

His mechanics are bleh. His arm is bleh.

Huge mistake. Todd Mcshay's a hack.

Scott Wright might be trying to spice up his mock draft. I have a hard time believing the Chiefs, or any team, would draft Bradford that high. His negatives are going to scare teams. I don't think the Chiefs would take him, period.

The best options at OL and DE are better than Bradford.

Michael Johnson looked good last night. The Chiefs could trade down and get him.

I don't think Bradford would be a bad pick, but I'd still rather have a defensive player. It would be a tough choice if he's on the board when the Chiefs pick. However, the Chiefs have a brutal 2009 schedule, and Bradford might look even better after another year at OU. I'd not worried about his arm strength after what people said about Matt Ryan.

We have a qb. I think we take Orakpo. I need to see more vid of him though. His 40 times are all over the place. Has good vertical.

If he has the burst then TAKE HIM!

sign Suggs too.

To the delight of many, Scott Wright has written that James Laurinitis has seen his stock drop. He's now a mid-first round or later pick. A couple linebackers could get drafted before him. It's time to eliminate him from this controversy.

I think drafting Stafford would be the worst possible decision the Chiefs could make. Tell me, does this sound familiar?: "Born with a rocket launcher for a right arm... Puts too much zip on the football on intermediate and crossing routes ... Doesn't show an understanding to audible into the correct pass protection or diagnose coverages."

http://www.walterfootball.com/pro2009mstafford.php

Read all the scouting reports you need, they all pretty much say the same thing. Lazer rocket arm, questionable decision maker. JaMarcus Russell anyone? Can you tell me that last time that a guy with a rocket arm drafted early turned out great?

Matt Ryan has a good arm, but makes really good decisions(thus far). The most glaring need/weakness for the Chiefs right now is a pass rush and linebackers. The secondary picked a ton of balls this year considering opposing passer had an eternity of time to throw the ball.

Have you seen him play? He plays nothing like Russell, in second half in his bowl game the kid was in the zone. Stafford is definitely a option for a franchise QB.

Yes, I have seen him play three or four games this year and a number of games last year. I have watched him underachieve in most all of them. In each game with the exception of maybe against Florida, the talent around him has been superior to the team he was playing, but still Georgia is one of the biggest underachieving teams in college football this year. I would much rather have a QB that understands how to read a defense than one who thinks he can just throw the ball past him. He is a vastly over-rated QB. Go ahead and compare Stafford to Russell after each of their first three years in the league, hell, take it five years into the league if you would like and then tell me how different they are.

No sir, have YOU actually read any of his scouting reports? Every single one of them I have seen says almost the exact same thing. Great arm, questionable decision making. Sounds like a recipe for a first round bust to me.

Underachieve? The kid is making due with the below average WR corps he has, they drop nearly 40% of his passes. The kid has moxy, and the" captain comeback" ability to take his offense on his back and win.

Obviously you have made up your mind and that will not be changed. He has Moreno in the backfield(likely first round pick) and Massaquoi out wide(a late second to third rounder). I would absolutely say he underachieved this year. Georgia was up there with USC being picked to play in the title game in the pre-season. Have his WRs dropped passes? Of course, tell me a college QB who does not deal with that. I would love to be proven wrong should the Chiefs draft him at QB, but I am far more confident he turns out to be at best an average NFL QB.

For the life of me I cannot understand the majority of people standing on the ledge ready to jump if the Chiefs don't go QB in the first round. QB is not the biggest need for this team. Is Thigpen going to be a Franchise QB for 10+ years? NO. Is he serviceable? Absolutely. I would be much happier should the Chiefs improve the defense and either take a QB round 3-4 or take one in next years draft. Otherwise, should we plan on another season where the defense collapses in the 4th quarter and give us an improvement of 15 sacks next year.

Stafford is the BPA, picking for need kills teams

No he is not, be I guess we will leave it at that. Just remember the "man crush" that you and many others here have on him when he turns out like Russell or Smith.

Here's to me praying I am wrong in this one. Betcha I am not though.

:rolleyes:

I dont think it is an accurate comparisson between JR and Matt Stafford.

JR was surrounded by 1st round talent. He had Addai the year before he was drafted, he had Bowe and Davis as WR's (both 1st round draft picks). He also had Doucet (3rd rd.). He also had Whitworth on the line (2nd).

All the scouting reports that I have seen compare Stafford to Cutler. I think that is a pretty good one, and that is a good QB to have on your team as well. He has a rocket arm and throws great spirals. His accuract suffers from throwing off his back foot a lot, which come from a combination of pressure and lazily moving his feet. He also throws too hard at times on shorter throws, but these things can be coached away, as can his ability to choose the right audible. I doubt he has to audible a ton in college too. The O he is in is a pro style O so that helps him out as well, but they do not throw a lot of intermediate or short passing routes really, which hurts him stats wise as well. We will have to see how he shows at the combine. It will hinge on if he can throw accurate tight spirals and how he does in his interiews with coaches. Most of the reports say that his upside outweighs his downside. Sounds like a typical QB to me that one would draft in the 1st round.

I am curious to see some of the 'unknowns' though. I would like to see how Rhett Bomar does, as well as the MAC QB's if they come out. Maybe we can find a steal at the top of the 2nd round... who knows!

It also depends on who our coaches are as well. If we end up with the Pats crew, they may like him since he can go deep and they could probably coach him up to his full potential. I would not trust Herm with any QB.

Thigpen will end up getting seriously hurt if they continue to let him run so much. I'm not a believer of the spread working in the NFL. We need a pro-style QB like Stafford or Bradford. It'll be another draft where the first couple picks are starters and we can't possibly fill all our needs.

Uh......When did Bradford become a pro-style QB?

I see your point, but I seriously doubt Bradford would run the option here.

:rolleyes:

And missing on a QB with a top 5 pick does as well.

Like I said before with the new GM and with Pioli as the guy if KC picks a QB in the 1st the kid will most likely be a stud.

bumpROFL

There were a couple teams saying that the NFL will be transitioning to shotgun/spread offenses.. Not every team, but a few..

Off the top of my head: KC, Cinci, NE ran tons of plays from shotgun.. I think close to half of the league will be running something other then pro-style by 2010..

It will either die off in a few years or mold into something that has a staying power..

The pro shotgun is not the college spread. The "spread" in the college game is predicated upon the zone-read running play, because it keeps the linebackers and safeties stuck, and the WRs being spread across the field disables the ability for bracketed coverage.

I think we have ourselves a full-blown controversy after today's events. Anything seems possible at 3.