Vote of Confidence.
 

Way to rally behind your starter.
Tell me again why either of these two are employed at 1 Arrowhead Drive?

Master motivators at work, geniuses!

the truth hurts sometimes

Goddamn mother****ing Herm. If you know you have to move the ball, let the offensive coordinator do his job. JFC the game plan did not change one iota from Solari to Chan. That suggests that Herm is the root cause for the reason he fired Solari.

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So what I really want to know is this....

Does our offense look like crap when Brodie is in....because Brodie sucks....or is it because they handcuff him with their playcalling?

Anyone who has played football understands their point--or at least why they are saying that.

Nothing at all wrong with that IMHO. It may light a fire or give incentive to Huard to show up and do his best (something I don't think he's done since he signed that fat contract before last season.) Otherwise, we should start looking at Thigpen or someone else to do what Huard seems incapable/unwilling to do.

I think it's more the second, than the first; but if Croyle can't stay healthy...we need to move on. He's got this season to prove himself; if he doesn't, I think he'l be moving on next year.

I dont think Chan took a shot at either qb if you read it right...

It's Herm and his 1955 football. Boot his ass.

I think its a little bit of both. They dont trust him to sit in the pocket and read a defense. He took very few deep drops. Honestly he looks more comfortable out of the pocket than in it.

So naturally, the call for more run plays, shorter drops and shorter WR routes to help protect him.

Ironically, the best throw i remember Croyle making yesterday was when he was about to get pounded then released a strike to TG at the last second. That was a great throw.

This is all moot anyways.....Dude is like a glass chandelier out there.

Our offense looked like crap because:
1. the o-line isn't that good
2. Hermie thinks 14 points is Arena League
3. Chan Gailey is being conservative by order of Hermie
4. The Patriots defense is pretty darn good


Did I miss any??

I agree.

The O sucked with both QB's BTW

For the most part, we were doomed by ghastly, stupid, utterly predictable playcalling. I've heard that one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If that's true, Herm and Chan are definitely insane. How many times did Larry run up the middle for two yards? Christ. :shake:

Edwards may be a great judge of talent, but he certainly has no clue how to utilize it. As for Gailey, I don't know how much of this crap he's responsible for and how much is Herm's fault. And while there were certain things to be optimistic about yesterday, we basically left the points on the field that would have won the game.

After seeing the changes in the PS, then reverting back to the same crap gameplans we've watched for 3 years - the answer is obvious.

Yesterday's playcalling was eerily similar to the terrible situational calls Solari made.

The common denominator?

Herm Edwards and Carl Peterson.

I thought the game calling was alright. Lets run the ball, make the game as short as possible, and keep LJ involved. They need to atleast pass more on first downs, but against the pats, on the road we were going to have to play it close to the vest. If nothing else for the moral of the players. People can whine on they want on here, but we suck on paper, and we are going to have to play these games to win. We don't matchup well with teams. The fact is, you may think the playcalling is terrible, but I bet in films they will say we need to block or run better, and not worry about the playcalling.

I thought everyone said Croyle could audible at the LOS. Is Croyle calling the same bad plays as Chan/Solari?

LJ is going to start to wear latex gloves all day long: his free hand is going only one place....

QFT. The only shit we've work in the last 2 years in the Bears game has dissappeared from the playbook.

I remember one counter play. The playaction? Gone. Bootleg? Gone. Downfield passes? Gone. Well, until Huard went in then they allowed him to do some intermediate passes.

The problem is that not only were the plays predictable, but they were the same ****ing plays that were predictable last year. If we were being predictable with a playaction or a bootleg right into Vrabel, or even LJ trying to get outside every play, you could MAYBE point that at Chan. No it is up the middle and mother****ing worthless ass sack of shit SWINGPASSES that everyone knows are coming.

That is 100% Herm taking the bullshit over. At least Marty would let his coordinators do their jobs. It happened to be Hacket, but he still let him do his thing.

Herm is too much of a ****ing pussy to put his trust into someone to win the damn ballgame. **** that bull****ingshit. Dungy gave up bucball. Herm has to too before he will achieve any success at all.

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someone needs to skullfuck Herm with a 2 x 4. This idiot doesn't get it. He didn't get it in NY and he ain't getting it now. Hopefully, Clark is getting it, though.

F that! if thats how they really felt then why didnt they draft a QB or go out and snag one!?

p.s. dont worry arrowhead, its not directed towards you.. its at herm and chan! :cuss:

I wouldn't expect anything less than crazy people on here, but we were a catch away to tying the pats, a team that was 19-0 last year. We were playing mostly rookies. No changes are going to be made until after next year

The play calling was okay to get to third and manageable.

Yesterday's problems in the first half was that they did not pick up first downs on third and short.

It seemed to me that the pass protection was poor on third down.

I think the Pats defense presents unique challenges with a 3-4 with 3 studs as the down linemen in their 3-4.

I think the Chiefs might hang 20+ on the next several opponents, no matter who is the QB.

I would not be surprised either way.

I would be excited if they fired Herm and Huard today...... (RIGHT NOW)

this was a 5th preseason game
they didn't think they could win
just try out the running game with a new line

And that's every reason why both Carl and Herm should be pinkslipped.

It's the will that moves the ball men
not the skill