Ryan Lilja & John Tait
 

2 OT's, 2 starting OT's, 2 starting OT's on SB teams, 2 OT's that had a Chiefs helmet on at one time.


I still cannot understand the thinking behind any of it. That shows Carl's lack of foresight. Carl deals with the Chiefs when he "has" too.

Lilja is a guard actually.

tait is so over paid....

Really it's just 2 bad decisions on top of 50 others.

still better than what we have....beig Mac, not Albert.

so what

Tait didn't want to stay AND the Bears made his contract unmatchable. And we tried to sneak Lilja onto the PS, so we clearly wanted to keep him. Obviously, it didn't work.

Guess what? It's life. Get over it.

Now I think they can be ripped for the Lilja thing, if he was good enough to start for the Colts he was at the very least good enough to make the team as a backup.

Yes, but the total disregard for our O-line, Kyle Turley? Staying with Weigman? Who was the other guy we had retired than came back? Jordan Black being your LT for 2 years says a lot.

Let's face it, that is the biggest **** up on his part. He made the biggest mistake in investing...he fell in love with a position. He was hooked on our old O-line that he was hellbent to hold it together. The man was so dillusional he held a roster spot open for an entire year for Roaf, even after Roaf told him in no uncertain terms that he was done.

So what? Ok, please, don't bitch at all about this team ok? Don't say one ****ing bad word about this team or Carl the rest of the time he is here ok?

Those are two VERY BAD decisions. And considering the state of the team, particularly with Lilja, he had no business doing it.

But hey, I just want to win.

Has a ring don't he? Started didn't he?

If you can play good enough to protecy pretty boy Peyton, you can play here.

The Chiefs have in general had very very little foresight when it comes to making decisions, it's been that way for a long time.

Olinemen generally play at a high level for a long time, those are guys that should get 2nd contracts...RB's and CB's shouldn't....this is a team that paid guys like Eric Warfield and Jerome Woods.

Carl R0x0rs. LOLZORS

Lilja is the one that really hurts. We'd have three serviceable lineman right now instead of just two. That makes a hell of a difference. It's gonna be damned hard to fix this line in just one more offseason.

Like I said, it's obvious Carl only wants to take care of Chiefs business when he has too.

I think that has how he has been since Marty left. He will do whatever he can to pacify the fans, sign Vermeil, or Surtain, bring back Edwards, making negotiating with Priest and LJ a spectacle, etc.

I just woke up on the wrong side of the couch this morning I guess.

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Anyone complaining about Tait just hasn't been paying attention, when another team pays left tackle money + some to get a right tackle, well, you just don't match that offer.

I AM paying attention...we are 30 million under the cap...Tait and Lilja would take about a third of that - but the line is fixed.

You certainly DO match the offer. People making decisions like you just did are the reason we have lost 12 in a row.

LMAO! Lilja I'll give you, but RT is a lot easier if you have a GM that is worth a crap, and at that time, we were at the cap.

What makes that one sting even more is him being a local kid.

I honestly think Herb Taylor would be a better right tackle. Move Mac back to left and backup Albert, and give Taylor a shot at starting at right. Really, what do we have to lose?

Were we $30 million under the cap when Tait's signed that contract in 2004?

You're absolutely right. Not giving John Tait LT money to be an 'ok' RT is the exact reason we've lost 12 in a row. The dumbassery on this board is, at times, epic.

Wait a sec, wait a sec.....are you saying.....are you saying our G.M. sucks?

OMG!?!1!/!

Yup, I want them to give one of the young guys a shot, McIntosh is just embarrassing and going to get someone killed.

Quote of the Year. :thumb:

well then you call chicago and tell them we finally decided to match their offer for tait.

I wouldn't exactly say Tait is an 'ok' RT, he was pretty dominant over there, and has been good at LT in CHI.

That being said, what is the statute of limitations for b!tching about player moves? Where's the Joe Horn thread?

Brian Waters was dominant too when playing on a line that featured Willie Roaf and Will Shields. Now he sucks. Tait plays RT in Chicago, not LT. He just gets paid like a LT.

is that why he constantly dominates Glen "the best DT prospect since Warren Sapp" Dorsey?

Probably. Hes never even made the Pro Bowl.

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Bears thought so much of Tait they drafted Chris Williams.

Don't hate
on the hate

Tait wouldn't have stayed in Kansas City anyway so I'm not as upset about that.
Though Carl's handling of the situation didn't help.

It's the "Lilja going to Indianapolis" that burned.

You mean a former 3-time Pro-Bowl, 2-time-All-Pro guard can handle a rookie during training camp and practice? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!

Also, if you do a little research or have a good memory, you'll find that the great Warren Sapp only started 8 games (but played in all 16) his rookie season and recorded a grand total of 26 tackles and 3 sacks.

Uhhh, Mecca was agreeing with you. He was stating that if Lilja was able to start for the Colts he should have at the very least been a backup here. :rolleyes:

Lilja had nothing to do with Carl. It's been well established that Vermeil made the call to keep some defensive lineman on the final roster instead, a guy who I think never actually played a single snap. Vermeil has even said "Yeah, I screwed that one up".

I swear, it's like the collective memory around here has been reset. There's enough you can blame Carl and/or Herm for without having to invent things.

I will always blame Carl for drafting Blackledge...

I agree with Mecca

Your picking two needles out of a basket of needles.:doh!:

so your saying our talent evaluation sucks...ok We get it.:D