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Tribal Warfare 10-10-2008 03:33 AM

Teicher: Gailey says Chiefs’ offense needs to handle adversity
 

Gailey says Chiefs’ offense needs to handle adversity

By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

To Chan Gailey, the evidence is conclusive. On the second play of the recent game against Denver, Larry Johnson burst loose for a 65-yard run, and the Chiefs went on to score 33 points — more than they scored in their four other games combined.

Last week in Carolina, the Chiefs retreated on their first drive, losing 15 yards. They never recovered and were eventually shut out for the first time in six seasons.

That tells Gailey, the offensive coordinator, that the biggest problem on a team with many is that the Chiefs get down on themselves when circumstances aren’t going their way.

“We need to do a better job of handling adversity,” said Gailey, listing one of his priorities for the season’s final 11 games. “I’ve talked to the guys about handling adversity. We can’t let things get us down. If we can — I hate to use the word mature — deal with it and not let things get us so far down that we can’t come back, we’ll be a better team. We’ve got to get better at that. That’s something I keep talking about and preaching about.

“I hate the word intimidate. If a football team gets intimidated, you have no chance to win. Are we getting rattled? Maybe. Are we losing some confidence? Maybe. That’s what we have to fight against. We have to realize what we’re capable of and if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time. Eventually we will get there if we don’t let things get us down.”

Getting it reversed may be more difficult than even Gailey would like to believe. He’s been the Chiefs’ coordinator for only five games, but his team was suffering from a crisis of confidence going back to last season, when a feeble offense was a culprit in an 0-9 finish.

“It’s not evident to me, but I’d be ignorant if I said it definitely didn’t exist,” Gailey said. “That’s what we’re trying to do here is get out of that mind-set that it’s going bad so it’s going to stay bad. It’s like a pitcher throwing a home-run ball. Forget it and let’s get it done the next time.”

Gailey, a veteran coordinator, was brought in to replace the fired Mike Solari and breathe some life into one of the league’s worst offensive teams.

Instead, the numbers have slipped. Points per game are down by one, yards per game down by 23, turnovers per game up by a half.

“You understand that every time you go into a new situation, it’s a challenge. There’s a lot that goes into the first year. There are always different levels of challenges. It might be run game, it might be pass game, it might be personnel.”

All have been problems for the Chiefs. Johnson had 102 second-half yards against Atlanta and 198 the next week against the Broncos, but only 117 in the other 3 1/2 games. The Chiefs because of injuries and ineffectiveness had to use three different starting quarterbacks in their first three games, a first for Gailey in his 16 years of pro coaching.

The Chiefs still have areas where they are obviously short on ability: wide receiver, certain offensive-line positions, quarterback when Brodie Croyle isn’t playing.

“The problem for us is consistency,” Gailey said. “It’s not like we can’t do it, because we’ve shown we can.”

The Chiefs are headed into their bye weekend. Croyle will return as their starter in their next game Oct. 19 against Tennessee at Arrowhead Stadium.

They are hopeful Croyle can not only provide some stability but also make more big plays than either Damon Huard or Tyler Thigpen.

But Croyle hasn’t played since leaving the season opener in New England during the third quarter because of a separated shoulder.

“To say it would be seamless, that remains to be seen because he’s been out for a while,” Gailey said. “I would love for that to happen. The great thing is that he has the extra week of practice.”

In an effort to score more points, Gailey said the Chiefs will have two priorities: gaining more yards on first down and getting more long pass plays. The Chiefs are averaging only 2.81 yards on first down, worst in the league by more than a half-yard and have only one pass play of longer than 30 yards.

“You’d think you’d have a few bigger plays than that at this point,” Gailey said. “To me, football is about taking what they give you. If they give you a shot, you’ve got to take it. We’ve been close on a few. (Dwayne) Bowe has been down the sideline and we just haven’t hit him. We’ve got to get better on that kind of thing.”

kcxiv 10-10-2008 03:36 AM

How the hell do you not get down when you are 1-4 and you just got your ass handed to you 34-0 and your offense had 127 yards total? How about running different run plays away from Taylor and Mac n Sack. Try something different.


I dont like this Gailey guy already.

Tribal Warfare 10-10-2008 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5100419)


I dont like this Gailey guy already.

This is part of Herm's micromanaging ****UPS.

mikey23545 10-10-2008 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5100419)
How the hell do you not get down when you are 1-4 and you just got your ass handed to you 34-0 and your offense had 127 yards total?
I dont like this Gailey guy already.

What kind of a loser are you? You think the team should just hang its head and give up when things are rough?

Unbelievable.

kcxiv 10-10-2008 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5100423)
What kind of a loser are you? You think the team should just hang its head and give up when things are rough?

Unbelievable.

I am just saying, how could they not be down a little bit? They suck. I am not saying for them to not try and play hard, but for **** sake, the team sucks. You have to expect them to get down on themselves a little bit when you get beat 34-0. Hell, if they didnt, i would have issues that they didnt care about what they were doing.

Red Dawg 10-10-2008 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5100419)
How the hell do you not get down when you are 1-4 and you just got your ass handed to you 34-0 and your offense had 127 yards total? How about running different run plays away from Taylor and Mac n Sack. Try something different.


I dont like this Gailey guy already.


Think about how rich you are and that you get to play a game for a living. That's how you don't get down. Play hard and do you best to win every snap. DUH?

PRIEST 10-10-2008 06:29 AM

Gailey was out out of football for a reason ,this guy is a turd a yes man for Herm & Carl and quite possible a scape goat at the end of the season, his Dallas stint run run run punt. I can see what made Herm like him as a choice no matter how limited that was.

beach tribe 10-10-2008 06:36 AM

I guess Gailey doesn't know that Denver can't stop anyone. Not even us.

crazycoffey 10-10-2008 06:37 AM

I bet the team reads the planet and that's what gets them down....

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2008 06:40 AM

This statement cracks me up: The Chiefs still have areas where they are obviously short on ability: wide receiver, certain offensive-line positions, quarterback when Brodie Croyle isn’t playing.

QB when Brodie isn't playing? He is as big a pos as any of the other QB's whether he is playing or not. Last I saw 0-7 with three injuries.
The Chiefs do not have a QB......period.

Gailey sucks and has done so for a long time. He and Herm are way too much alike. Run Run pass punt.....very much a loser scheme.

FAX 10-10-2008 06:51 AM

There's a lot of telling information in this article. For example, "The Chiefs are averaging only 2.81 yards on first down, worst in the league by more than a half-yard and have only one pass play of longer than 30 yards."

How much of that is coaching/playcalling and how much of that is talent/execution? That's a question for which Gailey should, by now, have an answer.

FAX

stumppy 10-10-2008 07:40 AM

" We have to realize what we’re capable of and if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time.”

ROFLROFLROFL


:cuss:

I think we've all discovered EXACTLY why LJ is sent running up the linemens asses time and time again.

el borracho 10-10-2008 09:00 AM

"They are hopeful Croyle can not only provide some stability but also make more big plays than either Damon Huard or Tyler Thigpen."

Stability? ROFL That is unbelievable! Anyone counting on Croyle for stability at this point is out of their freaking mind.

talastan 10-10-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5100899)
"They are hopeful Croyle can not only provide some stability but also make more big plays than either Damon Huard or Tyler Thigpen."

Stability? ROFL That is unbelievable! Anyone counting on Croyle for stability at this point is out of their freaking mind.

Hence why they're Hopeful. I know that unless Herm gets a ****ing clue though, and benches SackIntosh, that Brodie is going to be carried off in a stretcher.

CoMoChief 10-10-2008 09:40 AM

" We have to realize what we’re capable of and if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time.”






I think we've all discovered EXACTLY why LJ is sent running up the linemens asses time and time again.





Holy shit.....I dont even know what to say to that.

TEX 10-10-2008 10:23 AM

Gailey, a veteran coordinator, was brought in to replace the fired Mike Solari and breathe some life into one of the league’s worst offensive teams.

Instead, the numbers have slipped. Points per game are down by one, yards per game down by 23, turnovers per game up by a half.


ROFL


New OC - basically the same results. Things won't change as long as Herm's the HC. :shake:

PunkinDrublic 10-10-2008 10:25 AM

Teicher needs to learn how to handle the unemployment line. How the star continues to employ shit writers like him and Flanagan is beyond me?

Fish 10-10-2008 10:39 AM

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In an effort to score more points, Gailey said the Chiefs will have two priorities: gaining more yards on first down and getting more long pass plays.
My ass.... show me chump....

Chiefnj2 10-10-2008 10:53 AM

“To me, football is about taking what they give you"

- Then why the hell are we rushing behind McIntosh into 8 man fronts??

FAX 10-10-2008 10:55 AM

Good point, Mr. Chiefnj2. But he gives the answer; " ... if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time."

Combined with our lack of talent at key positions, that's the philosophy that's killing us.

FAX

Skip Towne 10-10-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5101166)
“To me, football is about taking what they give you"

- Then why the hell are we rushing behind McIntosh into 8 man fronts??

Because we have poor coaching?

blueballs 10-10-2008 11:15 AM

We're going to keep doing it until you get it right
again - again - I've got all day - again - again
again - again -We've got all season - again - again

2bikemike 10-10-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5100991)
" We have to realize what we’re capable of and if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time.”

I think we've all discovered EXACTLY why LJ is sent running up the linemens asses time and time again.

Holy shit.....I dont even know what to say to that.

Thats the same thing that smacked me in the head when I read it. When you continue to do the same thing over and over expecting different results is either insanity or at the very least futility.

Chiefnj2 10-10-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5101175)
Good point, Mr. Chiefnj2. But he gives the answer; " ... if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time."

Combined with our lack of talent at key positions, that's the philosophy that's killing us.

FAX

They've tried running it into 8 man fronts since the Colts playoff loss 2 years ago. They are up to "if it doesn't work the two hundred thirty seventh time, it could work the two hundred thirty eight time."

FAX 10-10-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5101410)
They've tried running it into 8 man fronts since the Colts playoff loss 2 years ago. They are up to "if it doesn't work the two hundred thirty seventh time, it could work the two hundred thirty eight time."

Exactly so, Mr. Chiefnj2.

There's a limit to this methodology and we drove it into the ground sometime early last year. As has been stated about a billion times, although Gailey has proven he can field a very conservative offense, this is all on Herm. It's his philosophy that isn't working. Over and over and over.

The ol' baseball theorem, "Hit it where they ain't." is a superior approach, in my view.

FAX

chiefsngop 10-10-2008 01:07 PM

I don't believe it for a second but I'm clinging to this hope :

Chan was hoping Brodie was going to Peyton Manning this offense, audibles @ the line, exploit defensive schemes, and etc..

He got hurt and Chan didn't trust Thig or Huard to run the offense as planned, so the old Solari offense resurfaced.

Remember that long long ago Bears PS game ? And how all the players were talking about how great audibles were, and how they loved NOT having to run into 8 man fronts ? The misdirection, cutbacks, no standing in the pocket behind that terrible right side ? Small hope flickered that the Chiefs may be on to something......

It's all fantasy, I know. Reality is it was only a couple quarters of a PS game and Herm has since handcuffed Chan and the Offense. But hey when youre a die hard Chiefs fan hope is all you got......

Chiefs Pantalones 10-10-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 5101086)
Gailey, a veteran coordinator, was brought in to replace the fired Mike Solari and breathe some life into one of the league’s worst offensive teams.

Instead, the numbers have slipped. Points per game are down by one, yards per game down by 23, turnovers per game up by a half.


ROFL


New OC - basically the same results. Things won't change as long as Herm's the HC. :shake:

pretty much

milkman 10-11-2008 09:15 AM

You know, what I'd like to know is how many times in the last two years it's taken this team well into the second qtr. to get their first first down in games?

I have never seen a team that has so consistently taken as many series to to get a first down in a game.

Bearcat 10-11-2008 09:27 AM

Quote:

We have to realize what we’re capable of and if it doesn’t work the first time, it could work the second time. If it doesn’t work the second time, it’ll work the third time.
Herm is a disease.


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