Gunther will fix the defense now...
 

Just be patient.

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/346

Gunther moving downstairs?

Gunther Cunningham would like to call the defensive signals from the sidelines for the season's final 11 games. Cunningham, the defensive coordinator, has been working in the press box on game day.

Cunningham said it would help the Chiefs make adjustments if he was stationed on the sideline.

"We're trying to think of anything we can to put the players in the best position to make plays," he said.

His plan needs the approval of head coach Herm Edwards but Cunningham could be on the sideline for the Oct. 19 game against Tennessee at Arrowhead Stadium.

Cunningham said it would help the Chiefs make adjustments if he was stationed on the sideline.


:spock:

I guess the phone from the press box to the sideline isn't working?

ohhhhhh, okay.

so he was just waiting until halfway through his 4th year to finally fix it.

This is the final piece of Gunther's puzzle!

Brilliant!!

Sheer genius!

Hasn't he done this already, with no success?

Print 'em?

yeah, he already did this in '04 or '05

On a serious note I will say this: Now Gunther can actually BE a linebackers coach during the game. I always thought it was ****ed up he took on that responsibility this year, but remained in the booth. Who was coaching the linebackers on the sidelines? Anyone? Donnie ****ing Edwards?

And the n00b slips in and steals the glory.

Good work.

I bet Mrs. Edwards handed them chunky soup as they came to the sideline.

goonther couldn't fix a flat tire

LMAO

Exactly

Remember the last time Gunther was on the sidelines?

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6201/gunbird2rz0.jpg

If they need a giant asshole to yell at them, can't they just get Krumrie to do it? It's not like he knows what he's talking about when he coaches the Dline. Random assortment of words just might work.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING! MOVE! MOVE! MOVE! GET YOUR ASS DOWN! MOVE! PULL! UP! SIT! FETCH! DAMN IT, TANK, GET YOUR ASS BACK IN LINE!

Krumrie is even more worthless than Gunther. I don't care how cool he sounds when he yells.

Time To Go
 

I have been a Guuunther supporter, but it's time for him to go. Tell me, what has he done without DT. Not a fukin thing.

Chiefsblog:

KC coaches have no ****ing answers. Will soon begin repeating failed attempts from past years.

Ummm. I'm having some problems with On Demand where sometimes I lose the connection while I'm using the menu to select a movie category.

FAX

It's all pretty comical now.

ROFL

FAX

The worst was hearing Grunhard on the radio this week on Petro's show, breaking down how pathetic our D-line is. Basically pointed out that they are all lacking a second move. Something like that evades my eye when I watch a game, but he seems to see it clearly. Pointed it out as a sign that the defensive coaches really don't know what they are doing at all in developing D-linemen, which helps explain why we burn through so many 1st round picks.

Wow. When Grunhard has turned against the organization you know it's time to go. God I hope they shit can everyone. And I mean...EVERYONE.

SAVE US CLARK

Wouldn't he see better from the press box? How does this fix it? Is he going to be out there whiffing on tackles on 3rd and long? Or is his presence going to keep guys from whiffing?

Starting with Herm ****ing Edwards - the NFL's WORST HC.

It's just desperation. They're gonna be pulling out all the stops.

Desperate men do desperate things.

Goodbye Gun.....wish you would have never came back.

heh. I bet I am the last Gunther fan in the KC fanbase.

Q- What is the difference between Gunther and every other coach on the KC staff?
A- Gunther will still be able to find a job in the NFL after his time with the Chiefs is done.

As bad as Gunther is, you're right.

If he wants to work, he'll have a job.

I highly doubt it.

He's old and hasn't done anything notable in the league since 1997. I guess he might wind up as a linebackers coach somewhere.

This way, Mr. kstater, he can yell and spit directly into the players' helmet earholes. He can jam sticks and little rocks and dirt and stuff in there, too.

From a coaching perspective, it's far more effective.

FAX

Are you excluding Herm? Because he'll probably always be welcome in Chi. and Ind.

Copy that, Mr. Adam.

There has to be something to the notion that the Chiefs have difficulty developing draftees. Too much smoke. There has to be fire. Or, at least a highly serious burning itch somewhere near the nutbag area. But, to your point, the reason defensive linemen stick out in this regard is because we've drafted so damn many of them trying to find a mature, pre-cooked, self-starting, highly-motivated guy who joins the team with a complete package of starting quality NFL-caliber technique. Over.

FAX

Gun coordinated some very impressive defenses and can at least make the logical argument that the D was improving in his latest stint here until Carl traded away our best defensive player. Likely a moot point, anyway. Gun is getting a bit long in the tooth to keep doing this and will probably just retire when it all finally stops.

Still, try to think of another member of our coaching staff who will be able to find work in the NFL after this titanic sinks.

Herm?- nope.
Gailey?- doubtful.
Crummy (Krumrie)?- nope.
Curl?- nope.
Price?- maybe so, maybe no. Probably end up coaching college again, if I were to guess.

Welcome to do what? Herm was never a coordinator and his teams have stunk. If Herm lasts the year, he will be 53-75, lifetime. What would someone hire him to do?

Damn, that is depressing, too. Thanks, Mr. el borracho.

This is going to be a very bad night for the neighbor's dog.

FAX

Herm is only 53. Dungy or Lovie Smith will give him a job.

Or some poor hapless franchise will take a chance.

Why do people hire curly dicks?

Herm is part of the network and thus has tenure for life. DB coach in Chi or Ind? Sure, why not.

We'll see in a year or so, I guess. You may be right- his friends probably have enough clout to get him an offer but then you have to ask yourself if Herm would accept a DB coach position, working under one of his more successful friends. And I guess one has the examples of Art Shell and Norv Turner as evidence that proven failures retain access to the NFL head coaching cabal.

Gunther needs an impact player like maybe...Glenn Cadrez. That would elevate his entire defensive squad to the next level.

It's really too bad our red jerseys look so good on gameday. what a waste.

Don't get me wrong, borracho. I'm not saying the guy can or should do anything. But it seems like once you're in, assuming you don't do something off the scale stupid, you're in for life.

In Indy, at least, I'm sure Dungy has full control over who is on his staff. If Grandpa had it, I'd have to think Tony does, too.

Dungy may retire, but if Edwards got on there it'd be funny to see him promoted to head coach. Herm Edwards and Peyton Manning - A MATCH MADE IN HELL!

Can you imagine Peyton telling Herm to mind his own business on 4th down late in the game? If it didn't work...the post-game press conference would be a dooooozy!

Now you're talking crazy. I don't think Herm gets another head-coaching gig after KC. Well, maybe the Raiders, which would be beautiful on so many different levels...

Can you imagine how beautiful it would be to play against Herm twice a year?

It would prove there is a god.

When 14 points wins, every ****ing time. Plus, Herm would have Al crawling all over his ass...

Must stop. Reality: our big shake-up is moving Gun's hapless ass out of the box, where making adjustments is actually possible because you can see, to the sideline, where nothing productive can happen. True. Blue. Tradition. Wait...?

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/64yHwKXIldI&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/64yHwKXIldI&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

LMAO What in the blue hell?

Isn't that the gig he got after Carl fired him?

With the Titans, yes.

Are those oatflakes, by any chance?

FAX

Does this mean Herm will be coaching from upstairs?

This is the first sign of division among the coaches.

Since when does a DC float a rumor about a change like this before he has approval of the coach?

Arrowhead is burning.

Why Herm wants low scoring close games is beyond me. The better coach usually wins those games. Herm isn't a better coach than anybody.

I'm pretty certain that Elmer Fudd is gay. But, I don't think Bugs is. I think he just likes to cross dress occasionally. He's like a two dimensional Eddie Izzard.

You have to wonder about Bluto, too. The signs are certainly there. It doesn't really matter, though, because Olive Oyl is definitely gay. Sorry, Popeye.

FAX

I'd like to shitcan Clark too.

I BELIEVE IN CLARK HUNT!

YESTERDAY YOU BELIEVED IN HERM EDWARDS.

You should be in bed, Mr. Skip Towne.

FAX

It's been almost a week since I had any faith in Herm.

Lets hope... :(

Good.
 

I wanted to see this happen since after the raiders loss.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=191654



Not that i think that it will make a difference. But it does show he is trying to do the right thing with where we are at. Afterall, he is the one who wanted it this way.

Joe Vitt asked out of his job as LB coach when Gun was brought back in '04. Reason? He had coached LB's under Gun before and didn't want to do it again.

Next was Fred Pagac DV's choice to replace Vitt. He was shipped out when Herm came in and allowed Gun to basically choose the current D staff.

Watched a interview with Gun after Herm was hired and the full staff was completed and Gun's reasons for the hires. (they did this with Solari as well about the same time on kcchiefs.com)

He wanted Krumrie because he was alot like him personality wise. Herm liked him because he coached against him when he was at Buffalo twice a year and herm in NYJ.

Gibbs(who i think is doing a better job than some do) was a gun hire as well. Gun has been friends with Alex Gibbs a long time and new David when he was much younger as a kid. Followed his career etc.

Don Blackmon came from the same Bills staff as Krumrie to coach LB's. All Gun had to say was they brought him in and Herm liked him. Didn't praise or i guess talk about him nearly as much as Krumrie and Gibbs.

In his 2 years hear, i remember a couple short snippets from Blackmon from PFW on DJ. in 06' about how he was suprised watching film from DJ's rookie year and how he improved his weakness off running around blocks (the big knock that caused him to slide in the draft and to a degree Blackmon agreed with that ) and another comment before last season on how he needed to step up even more to reach his potential which Blackmon thought could be pro bowl level. So he basically kept calling him out.

Next we know Gun is taking on LB coaching duties. No mention of Firing Blackmon. Just Gun.

At the time Herm acted like it was no big deal. You could almost tell he could forsee some potential problems. Asked about who on the sidelines would coach the LB's or go over the previous drives/series he said either Gibbs, Krumrie or he himself(herm) would. No big deal just point out if they were out of position or not.

IMO Gun could take that risk with a veteran team but pretty risky to do with all the youngsters on D. Which IMO shows his poor judgement. Too which hopefully he will be held accountable for like everyone else should be.

Gun made the same type of mistake he did as HC. Trying to be involved in everything or do too much. He outworks/outthinks himself. I don't doubt he could coach LB's again. But he is at that point in his career where he probably shouldn't be a DC again assuming he would be offered the chance.

He leads too much instead of trusting the people hired to do their jobs IMO.

I think Herm agreed because he thought it could finally turn DJ around to his potential. Also proves Carl is still involved IMO. Just like bringing back D. Edwards. Herm said it was to teach DJ how to be a pro.

I can't even vent anymore. Just a mess.

I was at camp two years ago and they were doing walkthroughs. I was watching the defense and Gunther was talking to the linebackers. One of them said something and then suddenly Gun yelled "I DON'T CARE WHAT COACH BLACKMON SAYS, WHEN THEY RUN SO AND SO I WANT SO AND SO DOWN IN THIS GAP BLA BLA BLA."

SAVE US CLARK

It's been a leadership problem from the leader on down. Carl's ego of being a former coach (he brings this up too much while trying to take credit) under DV at UCLA gets the better of him too much with sticking his nose in the football desicions. If the dumb peckerhead would realize he is a better business mind than football mind...........

I can't even stand listening to a Gunther interview anymore these last couple of years. He just seems like he is losing it or burnt out. Makes me wonder how the communication issues are between the rest of the staff and/or players with him. I can only take so much of even players like DJ saying "oh he's tough but you have to get to know him" etc.

Herm preaches doing your own job, if he wouldn't keep someone like Dick Curl around when he actually made a decent choice in OC as Gailey, just so he could keep the QB a mistake free QB and micro manage that.

Makes me sick when have had the improved drafts and really the last one was so excited and we have these issues with coaching. Herm also preaches that teaching is the biggest part of coaching. I can't see how screeming and yelling is going to get the best out of all these youngsters adjusting to the NFL.

Another thread I'm too drunk to read, but I have to ask this, even though I like Gunther, why the hell could he not land a DC job with any other team?

Olive Oil and Lindsay Lohan?

If Carl, Herm, and Gun aren't gone at the end of the season, I'm done with this franchise.

During the Vermeil years, we had one functioning unit in the whole organization -- and I am not just talking offense and defense. The offensive coaching staff were the only employees at Arrowhead who were worth a shit at the whole ****ing place. So what do we do? Purge them, and now there is just not a single person in that building worth a damn. Just burn the ****ing place to the ground, Clark. No one survives. There is just no reason to follow this team until Clark does so.

I highly doubt it.

According to a formerDB, a Steeler coach friend of his says that ****her isn't thought of very highly in NFL coaching circles these days.

I can't wait till Dan Dierdorff calls him a KC Icon again.....that makes me ashamed.

Gun fits in perfectly with Carl and Herm. All three are arrogant, condescending pricks -- which would be fine if they weren't utterly incompetent.

He did this same shit under Vermeil, it makes no difference. I is just another ****ing diversion, excuse.

The sad truth is that Dierdorf is right.

****her is a KC icon.

Just look at how long it's taken for people here to finally realize that ****her isn't bestest DC ever.

I dont care who you are that was ****ing awesome......if only DJ wouldn't have held Witten I believe on that last play.....:(