Giants101 says a deal for Gonzalez is on the table...
 

FWIW...don't shoot the messenger.

http://www.screamingsports.com/giant...onzo-deal.aspx

Dammit!

Die Herm and Carl!

Don't put this ****ing spam on the board you ****ing...

I keed. Nice job. Interesting stuff.

So what do we know about Sinorice Moss ?

I don't want Sinorice Moss.

I'd rather take a gamble in the draft.

Shit

Thank you.. I agree!

Sinorice Moss has done jack shit in 2 1/2 yrs.

No WR is going to shine here without a QB to throw them the damn ball, quit wasting your time Sperm.

Sinorice Moss:



TRANSACTIONS:

- Originally a 2nd round (44th pick overall) draft choice by the Giants in 2006.

GIANTS NOTES:

- Moss’ brother, Santana, was an All-America receiver at the University of Miami, where he holds the school career-record with 2,546 yards receiving and ranks 3rd all-time with 143 receptions. Santana was a first round selection by the Jets in the 2001 NFL Draft and currently plays for the Washington Redskins.

CAREER HIGHLIGHTS:

- Moss has played in 19 regular season games with 2 starts and played in 1 regular season game…Moss has 26 receptions for 250 yards…In postseason play, he has returned 4 kickoffs for 72 yards in the 2006 NFC Wild Card Playoffs.
- In 2007, he played in 13 games with 2 starts and caught 21 passes for 225 yards and added one 4-yard run…He was inactive for 2 games and active but did not play in the opener at Dallas (9/9).
- Caught 4 passed for 19 yards in action as the 3rd receiver at Atlanta (10/15).
- Started at Detroit (11/18) and finished with 4 receptions for 46 yards.
- Started as the Giants opened the game in a 4 wide receiver formations vs. Washington (12/16) and had a team and career-high 5 catches for 53 yards.
- Was inactive for the final 2 regular season games and all 4 postseason games with a hip injury.
- As a rookie in 2006, Moss was limited to 6 games due to a quad injury that caused him to miss almost all of training camp. Also played in the NFC Wild Card Game.
- Finished the season with 5 catches for 25 yards and 10 kickoff returns for 196 yards.
- Returned 4 kickoffs for 72 yards in the NFC Wild Card game at Philadelphia (1/7/07).
- Returned 5 kickoffs for 78 yards with a long return of 25 yards at Washington (12/30).
- Had 1 reception and returned 5 kickoffs for 116 yards with a long return of 33 yards vs. New Orleans (12/24).
- Finished with 2 receptions for 11 yards at Carolina (12/10).
- Saw his 1st game action since Week 2 and finished with 1 reception for 10 yards vs. Dallas (12/3).
- Had 1 reception for 4 yards in his NFL debut at Philadelphia (9/17).

But we have Huard /Carl

great.. we trade a hall of famer and in return get a trash draft pick and a good player's crappy little brother. sounds awesome.

Me thinks Herm is seeing the last name Moss and going ape-shit for him without checking the name that comes in front of it.

Losman and a 3rd from the Buffs?
Moss and a 5th from the Gmen?

tough call. I'd be happy with either, and happy for TonyG too. I have no problem with him wanting a shot at the SB.

I just don't see the lure. We need a QB, D-Linemen, O-Lineman, and a LB as well as a Safety. All of these should get priority over WR when we don't have a QB. Period.

Take a 3rd and 5th if that's the only other offer.

Now, if it was Moss and a 3rd rounder, I'd take it.

Just reported on 810 that it doenst look like a deal will be done for Tony...

Not suprising

I would rather get David Carr than Moss. I know he's nothing great but he's better than anything we are putting out there. Plus, he used to getting sacked several times a game. The guy has the physical tools and I have a feeling he could be a late bloomer like a Plunkett or Gannon.

According to the ESPN Radio update Micheal Smith says it now looks like the deals to trade TG are unlikely. Several formal offers have been received but only mid round picks were offered and the sources say the Chiefs will not move off of their demand of a second.

I'm torn. On the one hand, I'd like Tony to get the hell out. Been so loyal he doesn't need to go through Herm's incompetence and Carl's last gasp.

On the other, if the price isn't right, why bother.

:spock:


He may be a late bloomer, but it sure as hell won't be on the football field.

Carl is going to make him eat sh#t the rest of the year. Amazing.

The same could be said for the three dipshits on our roster. What do you have to lose?

Moss is Dante Hall but worse.

Moss is worth, at best, a 4th rounder. More realisticallly is a 5th rounder.

If it's Moss and a 5th, I honestly think I balk altogether. He won't be around when we win, but he can certainly help get us there by working with a young QB and WRs.

Why are any of us on here shocked this deal never went down??? People here in NY weren't excited because the local media showed Carl as a douche and knew about his "stern trading".

KK is such a douche; after reporting that the Eagles, Bills and Giants are the players in the TG deal; he then goes on to say "I put a 75% chance the deal gets done with either the Eagles, Giants, and Bills" lol

Boy...way to step out there on a limb KK. Moron

Good unless we are getting something of equal value back for him then keep him.. The Giants got a ****ing 2nd for Shockey, TG is twice the TE he is..

Y'know - if everyone would just stop listening to him, the fucknut would go away.

Not a valid argument IMO. Carr has had his chance and proven he can't cut it. I'd rather put Thigpen in than Carr....and I have no faith in Thigpen.

who's the bigger moron ... the moron announcer or the guy who listens to the moron announcer? :hmmm:

yeah; i typically listen to 980 news on the way home, but I'm home today and listening on the computer.

I hate KC sports radio. It's atrocious.

I agree.. You do not give up a star player that still has a good 3years left on this team, probably 4-5 sans injury on a great team for a ****ing 5th and a crappy player in return..

looks like TG should have been telling the other teams he is worth the 2nd.. Which if it is the Giants 2nd second is not much better then a 3rd sinch it will be in the 60's..

Not really amazing or surprising.

Tony is Carl's boy and he isn't going to let him go very easily

Just trade the sonofabitch and get it over with.

if he's Carl's "boy".. .then maybe he will understand right?

Tony goes to Carl and asks to be traded. Tony is clearly unhappy. Carl gets several offers but tells Tony "ahh, FU, I am not taking a third instead of a second".

I bet Tony is going to love that.

I read a rumor the other day anyway that he was considering retirement if he couldn't get out of his deal here.

Not picking on you, Valiant, but I've seen this so many times I have to ask a question.

Why do people think that TG has a "good 3 years left, probably 4-5 sans injury?"

There is absolutely nothing that backs up he'd even be here, much less as productive in 2011, 2012 or 2013.

However, there ARE articles and quotes that back up the fact that he thinks about retirement daily, and hasn't committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

Is this nothing more than a case of wishful thinking that a fan favorite sticks around longer than is realistically expected?

It has nothing to do with a trade.

He said in training camp that he thinks about retirement daily, and is not committed to a single snap past the 2009 season.

He was looking forward to retirement well before he asked for a trade 3 weeks ago...

I agree with you but Carl isn't going to let him go that easy or cheaply.

Heck Carl and Trent were friends and he dragged out that trade for months.

And no QB will do well here with Dick Curl as our QB couch. :banghead:

I don't understand why Moss is in talks to be part of the deal. Did he go to UCLA or something?

That is not entirely accurate

This is from 9-24-2008

IF and COULD.

Notice anything missing?

WANT.

Obviously because he is 32 and as you get older you have to evaluate whether you want to keep coming back every year. How many times did Will Shields say he was thinking about retiring? Probably the last 5 years he was here.

Tony knows the end is getting near and he probably has 3 years left DEPENDING on what team he is playing for and how healthy he stays.

Carl doesn't have friends. He has people who are loyal to him, people he can still use to get something he wants, and people who have outlived their usefulness.

He didn't give a crap about Trent Green on a personal level. His actions proved that. He doesn't care about Tony. He will pee on anyone's shoes for a nickel because he's fucking napoleon

Triple you are preaching to the choir.

I only said that about Trent because he said they were friends. They probably aren't now though. :)

Moss could at least return kicks. He's lightening fast.