Herm\Carl take Chiefs to new low!!!
 

Ok, I know there was a lot of drama over the trades but the reality is we have AT LEAST 2, and in that case our BEST 2, players that want out from under Carl, Herm and the Chiefs. So after Allen opined in the same manner last year, one has to wonder how many people on this team really want to be here?

So who is the next one to want out from the disaster Herm and Co have created? Bowe? Charles? Flowers or Carr?

You can debate whether TG and LJ are right or wrong all you want. The fact is we have a team now where the best guys don't want to be here.


WAY TO ****ING REBUILD CARL!!! :cuss:


Herm has ruined this team where Carl couldn't.

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Great thread, ****stick.

All I know for sure is that on top of being a bottom three team in the NFL this year, the Chiefs are aparently trying to vie for top dysfunctional team as well, now that Millen is gone.

We have a team that the older guys don't want to be on for sure. And why would they want to be? This team is a couple of years away from being real competitive.

What?

Based on what, ****ball?

This team is far from a "few years away" from being competitive with a douche like Herm at the helm.

No shit.

People act like this is some sort of ****ing revelation.

LJ is an older guy? Jarred Allen was an older guy?


You guys are smoking some good shit aren't you?

We arent competitive for one reason and one reason only.. HERM...

IT will take a real NFL headcoach 3 years to ****ing clean up this mess of a team...

Yeah, because we all know that Herm had an underachieving Super Bowl team in New York for 5 years and that ANY coach would be able coax more wins with guys like McIntosh, Jones, Huard and Harris at the best players at their positions.

But the good thing is there's only about 8 more weeks before you begin bitching about the Royals.

Can't wait. :rolleyes:

Tony will be gone after this season.

Our best player on both sides of the ball could not wait to get the **** out, and we are going to have a hard time just getting a FA to visit KC.

I'm sure there's plenty of players on this team who don't want to go out, and embarrass themselves by running a reeruned game plan every sunday.

Bullshit.

****ing outright bullshit.

The Chiefs aren't successful due to more than a decade of atrocious drafting and a philosophy of plugging in veteran players to continue mediocrity.

You're the biggest ****ing moronic poster on this forum. And you CLEARLY don't know jackshit about the NFL.

I guess if you ignore the details that accompany each individual case, then yes you can paint with that broad stroke.

Yawn...

Good. Then release them and let them try to get a paycheck somewhere else.

These ****ing guys are paid, in many cases millions of dollars.

If they want out, **** 'em.

That pretty much describes you in a nutshell.

11,000 posts by a blabbering idiot.

NO TEAM is more than a couple years away with the proper leadership.

Yeah, nevermind the fact in 3 years Herm has kept Huard, even signed him to a new contract, brought McIntosh in and won't pull him, put Jones at G instead of T and brought in Harris.

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The reason Jared Allen was traded was because he was butthurt over being called "a young man at risk" and that Carl wasn't going to make him the highest paid defensive player in history.

There was NO plan to trade Allen UNTIL he found out the Chiefs had no intention of giving a guy with 4 DUI's $70M.

FACT.

They want the **** out because our coaching staff is to reeruned to be considered NFL coaches...

Christ our HC, yes the leader of this team, just went to his press conference and acted like a freaking teenage crybaby in front of the media...

This team lacks leadership from the HC and it is filtering down through the team.

Yeah, they get paid a lot, and they can get paid a lot somewhere else.

There's a reason they wanted out.

You're wrong. But when all you do is post the same thing over and over and over, that's bound to happen.

Oh yeah, forgot to add Tait to the list of guys who wanted the **** out as soon as they could.


What other excuses do you have for this abortion of a team? WORST in CHIEFS HISTORY!

After the 80's who could think that was possible? Especially in this day of FA?

Look dude, I am sure your a nice guy, but your love for all things Herm is just annoying...

I appreciate your views and takes, but this ought right name calling and crap is pretty much on the same level as Herm...

Leave it at football discussions and not personal attacks...

Yeah, because they're pussies.

Where else in the NFL do you see guys bitching and crying about playing for a loser?

Did that EVER happen in Arizona?

Does is happen in Detroit? Cincinnati? Cleveland.

NO.

But that's a okay. You go ahead and defend a bunch of cry-baby millionaires.

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Fair enough, So why do you think we are not competitive on gamedays?

So tell me Brock, How long do you think it will take a NFL coach to de Hermanize this team?

Carl is driving the team to hell before he leaves! He wants it worse than it was when he took over...

You keep bringing up guys that left for more money. That doesn't prove your point at all.

It appears you are the one who has no clue about how the NFL works.

Chad Johnson plays in Cinci yes? Wanted to be traded something fierce yes?


STFU

Oh yeah, and Allen's been a real stud in Minnesota, too.

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Worst in Chiefs History?

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When we're this bad for the next 15+ years, like we were from 1974-1989, get back to me.

I swear, we have some of the dumbest ****ing fans in the NFL.

Anyway you look at it Dane, if you defend Herm or Tony G, you are defending a bunch of cry-baby millionaires.

Dont you think?

That. And there probably wasn't going to be the Get out of jail free treatment he got when he went to Minny, either. They essentially wiped the record. If he gets another DUI, it wouldn't send him to prison like most Americans.

You wanna throw yourself in with Chad Johnson, be my guest.

John Tait? Seriously?

The guy got paid like an elite LT, and lo and behold he's still an average RT. Crying about that loss pretty much epitomizes the value of your opinion.

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WORST OF ALL TIME!!!1!1!!!!ione111

I'm not defending Herm.

You guys are like a bunch of ****ing robots.

"If you don't hate Herm, you love him."

This.

So Tony is a pussy? I don't think so. He knows he is coming to the end of his career and he has never won a playoff game and wants to try to get a SB. Nothing wrong with that.

As far as the rest of your post goes yes alot of players bitch about playing for those teams. Chad Johnson is example #1

Irrelevant. He was one of our best players and wanted out. Him aside, aren't you tired of watching our players go elsewhere to win Superbowls?

This is what this site's become.

A huge influx of teeny-bopper fans who don't know shit about the NFL and make arguments for John Tait and Scott Fujita and a bunch of other clowns.

It's real easy any player that's worth their salt wants out because Carl is a ****IN megalomaniac prick, and Herm is clueless to how to conduct and coach a team.

Negative there...

What I am saying is, both are crybaby millionaires... Hell listen to the total lack of professionalism in Herms presser today...

He was pouting, just like LJ does...

We all know what happened between him and Carl. Let's not revise history.

Like who?

Kawika Mitchell? Are you asking me if I wish he were still a Chief?

Hell no.

He couldn't tackle ME.

How many times has that happened?

pretty much

Yes and you are the leader of the bunch.

Dont forget Neil Smith...

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ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Do you even bother to read other posts, or are you just too busy typing out your next reeruned rant so you can post the next thought that enters your empty skull?

Allen wanted out because of MONEY.

Please, name the last impact player we lost that won a SB somewhere else.

He left for more money, period.

Why do you think Barry Sanders retired. Because he was SICK of playing for a loser with 0 direction.
It's not about playing for a loser. It's about playing for a clueless idiot, and an arrogant asshole.

Tony G would not be trying to bail if he thought that there was anyway Herm might turn this shit around, but he along with everyone else knows he can't.

Keith Traylor
Neil Smith
Kawika Mitchell
Lawrence Tynes
John Tait
Ryan Lilja
Rich Gannon


Just what I can think of off the top of my head

Says the TRUE leader of the bunch.

What happened is Chicago made him a ridiculously high offer that the Chiefs were smart enough to not try and compete with.

Why would we want to pay a RT LT money?

Excellent comeback.

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That is not true

He had no interest in even negotiatiing because of Carl. Let's not revise history,

I am staying out of this tiff, but the answer would be Neil Smith.

Yeah, if only we'd kept Kawika Mitchell and Lawrence Tynes. Come the **** on. Also, John Tait and Rich Gannon didn't win super bowls.

Probably cause he would of done better for the years we had I-65?

Oh I forgot, we are still waiting for Roaf.

Lawrence Tynes.

YOU are revising history and filling in the blanks as you see fit.

Wow, look at all those Pro-Bowlers.

I thought you said all our BEST players leave to win a SB?

They went. Which is a lot closer than they ever got on this team ROFL

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Wasn't an impact player.

So you're already changing your argument.

Smooth.

Oh, ****IN' A!

Neil Smith refused to sign his deal. Free agent. Part time player.

Kawika Mitchell? He couldn't tackle ME.

Tynes? You're making a CASE for Tynes? You ARE a reerun.

Tait? Tait NEVER lived up to his potential in KC as a left tackle, forcing the Chiefs to trade a 3rd round pick for Roaf (who lasted only 3 years.)

Ryan Lilja was a decision made by DV (a bad decision) but he was an undrafted free agent. It's not like Lilja decided to not re-sign with the Chiefs. Dumb****.

Rich Gannon? Blame Marty. BTW, Gannon sucked in the Super Bowl.

Considering we have no MLB, and no kicker, not that Tynes was all that ....I'd say my point stands.

Have we needed a RT since he left? Absolutely. Is that a good reason to overpay John Tait or any other player? No.

If Mitchell was here, we still wouldn't have a MLB.

I'd say you make KCJohnny look like Marilyn vos Savant.

I know, you're stumped.

Go ahead, look it up. I'll wait.

About the only player you've mentioned so far that I agree on is Rich Gannon, but then I knew that when he was still here.

Well when the Chiefs get an AFC Championship or World Championship ring then you may have a point.

Tynes has a ring doesn't he? He got it when we cut him for a kicker worse than him. We have yet to replace him with a kicker that was better than him.

HOW ****ING SAD IS THAT?

And you sit here sucking Herm's nutsack like a bitch defending BS like that.

This.

And this.

I'm just saying that all the players we let go of that I mentioned, went and STARTED on teams that went to the SB.


Something is ****ed up there.

Accurately, if you (one) don't hate Herm, you're a ****ing idiot.