Trade ideas.
 

I'm just going to throw some thoughts out there. Tell me which ones you think are worth looking into.

RB Larry Johnson

Worth: A pair of midrounders.
Probability: I'm willing somebody bids on him, but I doubt we'll get a 3rd.

QB Brodie Croyle

Worth: Low-rounder at best.
Probability: Very unlikely somebody wants to spend a pick on him.

TE Tony Gonzalez

Worth: 3rd.
Probability: It is very likely that someone will bite on Tony G for a 3rd.

OG Brian Waters

Worth: Leadership and Pro Bowl selection raises his worth -- somebody might drop a 3rd for him?
Probability: Only if some team out there goes all Jets this offseason. Who knows.

OT Herb Taylor

Worth: 5th.
Probability: Young guy with a lot of promise that may not fit on our OL anywhere. Some team might go for that, but 4th seems unlikely.

DE Tamba Hali

Worth: who the hell knows
Probability: Somebody would surely bid on Hali, but who the hell knows how much he's worth. His youth and past production offsets his awful year, but some team that needs a complimentary DE might drop as much as a 2nd or 3rd for him.

SS Bernard Pollard

Worth: 4th, due to youth and experience.
Probability: It's uncertain if there's a real strong demand for somebody like Pollard. Like Hali, his poor play would be offset by his youth and time on the field, but I don't think we'd get offers much higher than a midrounder, if any at all.

Where would you put these guys' value?

Thoughts.

LJ: 4-5. one pick
Croyle: half a doughnut.
Gonzo: 3. one.
Waters: 6.
Taylor: conditional 7.
Hali: 4-5. one.
Pollard. 6-7. one.

In short, beyond Gonzo, I see very little value here.

That's fair. Although I will say that teams may look at Hali and figure he's a great 2nd DE on the strongside.

That COULD BE worth something. Don't know if it's worth a 2nd, but it's worth something.

Just a thought.

If only we could get that lucky. :grovel:

most of these guys are worth more to us than any other team or the draft pick we'll get from them.

I agree that Hali is a nice rotational DE. Sucks for us that he happened to be a first rounder. He's an NFL player, though, which is more than we can say about many a draft pick we've had.

Here are my thoughts.

if we can get a couple more games like the San Diego games. It looked like he was finally healthy or that tackle sucks. Either way we need more strips

It's laughable that anyone thinks a team would give any more than a conditional 7th for Tamba Hali, Bernard Pollard or Herb Taylor. Brodie Croyle has NO value. Brian Waters wouldn't get more than a 5th or 6th - AT BEST. Remember we traded a 4th (conditional 3rd) for All-Pro, future HOF, LEFT TACKLE (not a guard like Waters) Willie Roaf. Tony Gonzalez isn't going anywhere, either. We would never get near the value in picks equal to what he brings to the team.

Rule 1 - Don't trade players where you don't have viable backups unless you are going to get great value for them.

RB Larry Johnson

- Probably worth a 4th round pick. Do not trade. He can still run the ball. KC would probably have to burn an earlier draft pick to replace him.

QB Brodie Croyle

Worth - maybe a 7th rounder. Trade him.

TE Tony Gonzalez

Worth: 4th round. IIRC only one team was willing to give a 3rd for him this year. He's a year older. Do not trade. Cottam has not proved to be a good replacement for TG.

OG Brian Waters

The OL has enough problems. Why trade away a solid player who has another year or two. Focus on the C, RG, RT.

OT Herb Taylor

He's the only backup that seems to have potential. Why trade it for a 5th round crapshoot?

DE Tamba Hali

Sadly, he's the best DE on the team. Keep him for now at LDE.

SS Bernard Pollard

Not worth more than a 6th. Why not keep him as a backup?

Exactly esp gonzo and waters.
I think youd really have to hit a homerun with a 3rd round pick to let waters go.

For the 15th time Derrick, we're not trading Tony Gonzalez. At all.

:doh!: sad but true

you will be laughed off the face of the earth thinking you can deal Croyle to anyone for anything

My thoughts.

RB Larry Johnson

Worth: 4th rnd
Probability: 5th rnd

QB Brodie Croyle

Worth: 6th or 7th
Probability: Wont be traded.

TE Tony Gonzalez

Worth: 3rd.
Probability: Hopefully wont be traded. (Tony's happy that CP is gone)

OG Brian Waters

Worth:3rd or 4th
Probability:wont be traded.

OT Herb Taylor

Worth: 6th
Probability: Do not trade him!

DE Tamba Hali

Worth: 3rd
Probability: Wont be traded, but if he did it would be for a 3rd most likely.

SS Bernard Pollard

Worth: 3rd
Probability: Wont be traded, we might need him in the future.

Ahh Direcky's weekly trade thread.

RB Larry Johnson- probably worth more to us than the pick we would get in return (a 4th or 5th). At this point, and with his contract, we really need to just run him until his legs fall off or his contract becomes unsustainable.

QB Brodie Croyle- Croyle isn't worth anything to anybody. We will probably cut him and he probably won't be signed anywhere.

TE Tony Gonzalez- Tony might be worth a 3rd to someone. He's a favorite so I hope he doesn't get traded but rationally it might make sense.

OG Brian Waters- probably worth more to us than the pick we would get in return (likely a 4th). Wouldn't make sense to trade him since we already have so many needs on the Oline.

OT Herb Taylor- might be worth a 5th and it might make sense to trade him. Even with all of our needs on the Oline he doesn't really get any time.

DE Tamba Hali- probably worth a 3rd if a team is desperate but, would you lookee there?!!, the Chiefs are desperate at DE. If we can negotiate a 3rd I would make that trade- if not, I would keep him until his rookie contract expires and then let him walk and collect my conditional pick.

SS Bernard Pollard- probably worth a 5th, maybe a late 4th. If someone were interested I would make the trade.

Yep.

When will it stop??

April 2009

Value from Highest to Lowest:

TE Tony Gonzalez - 2nd/3rd

OG Brian Waters - 3rd/4th

RB Larry Johnson - 4th/5th

DE Tamba Hali - 5th/6th

SS Bernard Pollard - 5th/6th

OT Herb Taylor - 5th/6th

QB Brodie Croyle - Nothing

RT Damion McIntosh - Office supplies

we might as well just keep them all then, well cut Pollard unless someone actually wants to drop a pick on him

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You people are trying to turn the Chiefs into an expansion team. Stop it.

What could Thigpen bring us, if anything, if we get the QB we want in the draft? Or would we be better off keeping him in camp to compete?

LMAO at anyone trading shit for Bernard Pollard or Brodie Croyle.

With Brodie Croyle automatically comes Kelli Croyle. I'll give you a minute to rethink your response.

I figured we could negotiate for a filing cabinet. Put it on the offensive line and it'll allow less sacks. And it holds files.