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Brian Waters?
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is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...
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I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.
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Of course the players like him. He's not demanding and they still get a paycheck. Our next coach better not be a "player's coach."
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Any of that "but we are rebuilding bullsh*t" went right out the window right about when Miami won their 6th game of the season for me. After a 1-15 season they turn a 180 in less than a year.
2-23 isn't good coaching, and I'm tired of we are rebuilding being the excuse. |
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what is he suppossed to say?
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He could say he hopes that with a new GM that the team could go in a new direction and that more changes could benefeit the organization. It is very easy to say shit without actually saying names.... Instead he is sucking herms manhood, which shows that he must really feel something good is going on.... Not sure if Waters scored a 1600 on his SATs though but i will try to see the light out of any darkness. |
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Rooster and Raybec just did this to my thread!!!!! :cuss:
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dammit... you got me, my mom LOVES 2 1/2 inch peters.
back to my percocet and beer, have i said **** the dentist yet? |
People expect to badmouth the guy.
But would you badmouth your boss during a radio show? I'm thinking most wouldnt. But then again, it's not like Herm would bench Waters. |
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I love percocet and beer... Life has to be very good for you right now! |
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Good thing you weren't listening to 610 last night when Nick Wright was playing tape of damn near every player in the locker room singing Herm's praises. Just saying.
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The players know two things: 1) Don't throw the current coach under the bus unless you want to be labeled a malcontent by the next administration 2) The next coach will more than likely bust the players asses with hard-nosed practices and get rid of this buddy buddy soft Herm crap we've seen the last few years. This really all depends on who the next GM is, so I wouldn't start freaking out about Herm until then. I know of very few "outside the organization" GM's who can bring a "fresh outlook" to the franchise who would want to go into a season with a head coach entering a lame duck season. Could happen, but we'll see... |
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2.5 x 3 = 7.5 LMAO |
BTW, grabbed this quote from right before Herm exited the Jets:
"I would think the guys will be disappointed that Herm leaves," center Pete Kendall said. "Whoever comes in is going to inherit a locker room of good guys, of pros, of guys who understand this type of stuff is part of the business." |
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Thigpen and Bowe were also on giving their strong support for Herm....
Makes you wonder... |
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I asked her, "what size peter do you like" and then she pointed at you..... |
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1. Herm is fired 2. Herm coaches next year as a lame duck 3. Herm receives a contract extension Why would a new GM want #2? No new GM wants the potential for a meltdown in his first year. If next year Herm was going to be coaching without a contract, it made no sense to fire Carl. It's immediately putting the new GM in the hot seat. |
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This franchise is so f'ed up. I can only hope and pray that Clark puts the correct people in place to build it right. |
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The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him. Now, he's out. Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season. It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent. |
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Question: Should winning be important to a team that is rebuilding? |
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When Herm was hired here, he said he was fixing the defense. Shambles or not, he hasn't done it despite investing several high draft picks into the defensive line. I also know there are a lot of people in the NFL that think Herm is a big bag of wind. Any GM that comes in here is going to look at his record. They are going to look at the players that progressed and regressed under Herm, and they are going to look at the available coaches that might be better. |
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This is a production-based business. 6 wins in 30 games is down right sickening. |
[sigh]Really? Do I again have to point out that Herm has been a head coach in the NFL for 8 seasons? Herm isn't a new coach and did not just start coaching in 2006. Herm's career record = 54-76 (including his oh-so-impressive 2-4 playoff record). Herm is a loser, has always been a loser and, guess what!, will always be a loser.
Q: How many games would Herm have to win next year just to reach .500? A: It's impossible! Even if Herm were to go 19-0 he would still be a loser. |
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The other thing that is really irritating about Herm is that he hasn't learned from any of his mistakes. Yeah, Gailey has opened up the offense, but what is hilarious to me is how bad our second half adjustments have been. This team goes into a massive shell after half time and that has to lay on the feet of the head coach.
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I just don't know how you could ever defend Herm Edwards like he's a first year HC. He's been coaching for 7 freaking years. |
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I wrote that from the possible perspective of the new GM and what his reasons could possibly be for retaining Herm. If Clark Hunt weren't the owner, I'd expect Herm and the coaching staff to be fired once the GM is in place. But it would not shock me to see Herm as the coach in 2009 for the reasons I stated, along with Clark's support of Herm. Would I be happy to see Edwards replaced with a more competent X's and O's gameday coach? Absolutely. Make no mistake about that. |
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For all the talk about how little talent this team has, you can't honestly tell me they wouldn't have at LEAST 5-6 wins with a competent coach. Why hold these kids back? Bringing in a new HC allows these kids to not only develop, but to learn how how win. Keeping HE in charge means only one of those things is going to take place. We all know which one... |
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I look at it from the other perspective: I can't friggin' believe that the Chiefs are even IN these games given the lack of talent on the right side of the offensive line, at WR, at LB and especially at DE. Yet other people think Herm needs to go in spite of these blatant deficiencies. The Chiefs could have won in NY (I was there and said "Oh, shit!" when they punted with 5:35 left). The would have beat Tampa without injuries to DJ and Flowers. They may have won in San Diego had it not been for the missed extra point. They may have beat San Diego this past weekend had it not been for Bowe's mishap and two misses FG's. They may have beat Denver in Denver but the defense couldn't hold. But they didn't and people want him fired, as if any other coach could have coached around the lack of talent and depth. As I said earlier, it's not like the Chiefs have the talent and depth of the Cowboys, Giants or Panthers. I don't get it. |
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I believe the breaks go to the coaches that deserve them. Herm just isn't a good head coach. You think he is, but he has a 7-year track record of being a terribly mediocre head coach. I don't want someone mediocre leading this team into the future. |
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They obviously HAVE enough talent to be in these games, and it's painfully obvious to ANYONE watching that piss-poor coaching decisions are turning potential wins into losses. Other coaches wouldn't be playing not-to-lose. Other coaches wouldn't be so reckless with time management. Other coaches wouldn't employ an OC who's 2nd half playcalling is so predictable, that the other team and the freaking FANS watching on TV are calling out what's going to happen before the snap. So sorry, I have to call bullshit when you say another coach couldn't have coached around this so-called lack of talent and depth. |
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Here is a picture of me the other day... http://www.airshowbuzz.com/forums/up...1208537878.jpg |
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He's a "good" coach, having coached four teams to the playoffs. But he's not great. And I hope he's replaced with someone who becomes a great coach. |
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You must really believe that Herm is worthless by making that statement. In case you hadn't noticed, there are coaches that are hired and fired every year that are far worse than Herm Edwards. |
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I would bet everything I own that if Billick, Del Rio, Haslett, Fassel or Lewis were the coach of this team, as is, we'd have more than TWO ****ing wins. And regarding Gailey: No, overall, I haven't been terribly impressed. When the overwhelming majority of your running plays in key situations are behind the weakest part of your line - I have a problem with that. When you're giving the ball to LJ 4 times in the 2nd half - I have a problem with that. When your go-to plays in a goal-to-go scenario are the goddamn fade pass and a QB draw - I have a problem with that. When your 2nd half play calling is as dry and predictable as the last guy who ran the offense - I have a problem with that. |
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Haslett's probably coaching an equally talented squad and he's got two. Lewis has a more talented squad (offensively for certain) and he's got three. I'm sorry, I just don't see how you can win with guys like Adrian Jones, Rudy Niwanger, Damion McIntosh, Jason Babin, Rocky Boiman and Demorrio Williams as your starters (let alone Devard Darling) playing KEY positions (and a 7th round I-AA 2nd year QB to boot). When you have THAT many holes that need to filled, you're going to lose a LOT of games. Period. I said the Chiefs would win 3 games at most back in May and you disagreed. Now that it's likely, you blame Edwards and Gailey, when the blame clearly lies at the feet of Carl Peterson for not providing his head coach with even AVERAGE talent at key positions. |
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of course they are having a circle jerk concerning Herm, He's buddies with them now and they know where they stand with him. Does that make him the right guy for the job? hell no, a reeruned monkey on PCP could've managed the Charger game to a win. Herm just ass****ed himself with that instance, and it was the breaking point that got Carl fired this season.
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They have shown they have the talent to win how many games this year - at least 5 by my count - only to have wins taken from them by bad coaching decisions. I said they had a floor of 4 wins and a ceiling of 6. Based on the way they've played in the 2nd half of the season, it's more than fair to say i would have been dead on had there not been a bumbling idiot on the sidelines grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. |
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I guess you haven't been paying attention, nor have you read EVERY interview with Carl and Clark specifically stating that CARL and CARL alone was responsible for the signing of McIntosh AND the decision to stick with "the old guys". Those were CARL PETERSON'S DECISIONS, not Herm's. |
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