Allen is going to outsack the Chiefs
 

Trade winner=Minnesota. Nice job KC your losing the sack battle

KC Chiefs TEAM TOTAL 9 sacks VS J. ALLEN 14.5 sacks

Minnesota got a hell of a deal. Now go ahead and tell me how KC won that trade.

o hai

The end result is the firing of Herm Edwards.

Chiefs win.

Epic win

That Q word drives me up the wall. Where is the ****ing filter when we need it?

LT of the future, Legit Change of pace Back, possibly a safety who at worst is depth for this team vs. a Good pass rusher who didn't want to play for the team he was on and would've possibly been a locker room cancer if he had to play under the franchise tag....No contest we came out on top.

By the way Fallfart, how's Javon needsaWalker, and Deangleo Hell working out for ya? Nice waste of cap space Faidturd. ROFL

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Yeah, one Peterson down... one Edwards to go.

You're still stuck with good old Al. That mother****er will never go away.

And he seems to be immortal, that sucks for you.

I'm surprised some Raiders fan hasn't driven a stake through his heart. (yet)

It still amazes me that Faider trash still shows up to talk shit.

Carl Peterson was fired. No fan in the NFL has any real trash to talk on us.

pull the string cheese out of your ass
and focus

AutumnWind

The Jared Allen sack statistic is not as embarrassing as this:

The Oakland Raiders are the first NFL franchise to lose 11 or more games in six straight seasons ROFL

ROFL

The n00b just punked the Raider Trash!

He's earned rep, IMO.

I gave him some. Keep rocking out n00b!

I think it might be a she

:rockon:

Really?

A girl who named herself "Cooter"?

I'm intrigued.

Basing it off of this post alone.

I think the local high school grocery sacker could out sack the chiefs... Especially on double coupon night...

For what it's worth, I'm about 90% sure that AutumnWind = GROB, so it's entirely possible that he's really a Broncos fan pretending to be a Raiders fan. That would make more sense in terms of why he continually talks smack even when the Raiders are in the tank.

Luckily we don't have to sack you to beat you.

Oh, and Cooter = Marlboro Chief, so he's gone again. It's like a fun little game we play to see how long he can go without me figuring out it's him.

Finding out that there isn't a Raiders fan this stupid who posts to ChiefsPlanet is like finding out there isn't a Santa Claus.

Well, shit.

He seemed cool for a minute.

Makes sense though, you know that reerun is a HUGE "Dukes of Hazard" fan.

ROFL

Agreed.

He's pretty easy to find these days. n00bs don't jump right in the same day they register and start posting like they know everyone. A quick IP check or "other means" confirms it.

So it's the old bait and switch huh?

I'm going to find all his other posts and neg rep him.

Is there a function you can install that auto-ban's his IP?

EDIT: Nevermind, you already shitcanned him.

Shhh... keep that on the down-low...

He'll learn your secret.

Other than the "other means", that is... :D

Nice work, as always, Face.

Na, he uses AOL a lot (dynamic IP) and knows a few proxies, so I can't get rid of him without getting rid of a bunch of other AOL users.

Eh, I've got his approach down pretty well lately. He slipped under the radar with Hermcock, but other than that he's been gone pretty quickly.

He's an odd case. He's actually not that bad in 90% of his posts, but when you have a track record of posting racial slurs and porn, it's hard to let him last long.

So the Raider fan comes in wanting to talk smack. Your franchise has had more colossal **** ups this year alone than the Chiefs have had the last decade.

The head coach debacle (again), a 1st round, double quarter pounder of a QB (with 6 less TD's than a certain guy from Coastal Carolina) and just how are Javon Walker and DeAngelo Hall working out this season?

Yeah, you've got room to talk.

They also have been in 5 SB's and won 3 of them. It's consolation that they've been very putrid recently, but still.... they were in the super bowl 2003... We haven't even been there since the freaking merger.... *SIGH*

No going too about it, he done already has.

What pick did you receive for Randy Moss?

Yea how are those 2 working out for you, Mr. Javon "Crippled" Walker and Mr. Deangelo "Im worth more than Nate Clements" Hall doing ?

:DWell ,ya know Deangelo Hall did have an int. last week...........



















for the redskins ROFL:D

lol

Six seasons of 11 losses or more. Man I would have thought the Bungles or Aints did that. That's got to make those Raiduds fans proud to have that record.

I've got to agree with the Raider trash on this one.

Not me...we got a solid LTOTF, Charles will be a nice piece on our offense for years to come and who knows about Morgan...but we got all of that and we also didn't have to dish out a $30M guaranteed contract...Allen's an elite player but we got a stud LT and two other players for 1/4th the money.

Obviously we need a pass rush and hopefully our new GM will make that the #1 priority in the offseason.

Then you are siding with a moron. We got a very good LT and Charles. Saved alot of money against the cap. Plus, Allen is a headcase.

Headcase? I don't think so. The dude never bitched (other than about his contract which I think he deserved) in KC and played friggin' HARD every game...and this year in Minnesota he has played through countless injuries and made another pro bowl and will probably have 16 or 17 sacks.

The dude is a flat out STUD and a top 5 DE in the league who looks as if he's conquered his drinking problem.

I still think we got great value out of him and with the money we saved by not giving him $30M guaranteed we can sign a high priced free agent so in reality we're getting Albert/Charles/Morgan/high priced free agent (if we sign one) for Allen.

So be it-we've been through this ad nauseum so I'll just leave it at that.

He had legal issues. DUIs. Initially recieved a 4-game suspension, reduced to 2 games.

I aprove of this message.

and he SWORE those issues were in his past and they never leaked onto the field...and Minnesota has a very conservative owner who had no problem giving up 3 picks and a MONSTER contract for the guy, so...

Like a draft you can't really value this transaction now.

But if you presume that all the players involved continue to play as they did this season I think the Vikings end up with an "A" defensive end and the Chiefs end up with an "A-" or "B+" Left Tackle.

Cue the debate over whether or not a DE is more valuable than a LT.

Regardless, I think the Vikes got the better end of the deal (unless you factor in the reality that Jared Allen didn't want to play for the Chiefs anymore).

Yeah, I agree. It was an issue but not a big one really.

And did we mention the Raiders suck?

Do we need to say anything more than "Jamarcus Russell"?

Thread over.

I guess when your team is in as sad of a state as the Raiders are, the only thing you have left is to analyze the every move of your rivals. I mean, with all of the Raiders failures over the last decade what's left?

Yep. We are missing JA, but no one thought we'd win this trade this year. It's kind of like when Al Davis let Jon Gruden walk away. He went to Tampa and proceeded to stick his dick down the Raiders collective throats. The good news for the Raiders is since he left..........oh wait. There is no good news. They've quickly devolved into the worst franchise in all of professional sports.

But yeah. You keep on telling us every spot we've went wrong. Frankly, it's a lot easier hearing it from you.

Allen didn't want to be here...

Damn, it's not rocket science.

Huh. Looks like Sandy was right. It was a bitch.

In case you missed it....

exactly.... check back end of 2010-2011 season.... by then we will know.

Well....think about this issue. How much better would the Chiefs be had they drafted Albert at 5 and then kept Jared Allen. Allen would have had a huge impact on our defensive performance, and this team could very well have won 7 or more games with him in the lineup.

Of course, the long term value=getting rid of Herm and Carl, getting Albert, Charles, Morgan AND free agents (if we do use that cap room), is pretty damn high.

I have no problem with moving Allen except there wasn't a plan in place to fill his spot. Tamba Hali was clearly out of position on that side, and having a DT fill in on the other side is not exactly panning out either. Besides an awful scheme that were running as well, this team went into this year with very predictable results. We don't have enough cover personnel to blitz, and that leaves huge gaps in the cover 2 anyway.

It was a total double standard by Carl Peterson...

If Jared was such a risk, why did LJ get $20M guaranteed?

Had LJ even been convicted of anything?

Regardless, he didn't deserve it either, IMO.

Ok, ok...

But the TOUGH NOSED commish obviously had enough faith in JA to reduce his suspension...and the dude flat out got into shape and claimed drinking was a thing of his past...you're telling me Carl couldn't trust a guy who had produced and played pedal to the medal every game he had ever been a Chief?

Look...I'm totally content with the package we received in return for Allen...but everyone on this board knows his troubles are a thing of the past...they're just desperately holding onto them because Allen was the best thing to hit this franchise since DT/TG. An elite player with a superstar personality.

But like I said...Albert/Charles/Morgan/money to sign an A list free agent is a good deal for an elite DE.

I'm sorry, but no, I don't think his troubles are a thing of the past.

As someone who has a family member who is an alcoholic, I know that you are NEVER cured.

He can say all the right things, but he'll ALWAYS be a risk because of his past.

Not to mention the fact that LJ is/was Carl's baby.

You go for Oakland= EPIC FAIL

This was the winner of the rationalization post of the year. The Chiefs got taken on that trade. Winner Minnesota.

Only normal post in all of that. So KC didn't want to pay him but they give more money to a 5 technique DE that never has played a down in the NFL?

the problem is JA can't play QB. So... minny eat a bag of dicks. they are wasting two great players AP and JA.

The Chiefs are an entirely different organization now.

Moving JA was one of the dumbest things the Chiefs have done recently. I was against the trade then, and still think the Vikings got the better end of the deal. My take was that good DE's are very hard to get - "game changers" like JA are even herder - and JA was young and would likely be around for many years. The bottom line was the Chiefs were not gonn pay LJ and Allen. It was just CRAZY to pay LJ, who would not contribute for as long as Allen would, but $hit happens...

This. Different leadership, different scheme. Why the **** was this even bumped? Completely irrelevant.

Given the teams new defensive scheme, frankly, it is great the Chiefs didn't lock him up.

Brandon Albert has a chance to be a HOF LT. I am okay with the trade.

There were mistakes before JA was traded that caused it, but at least we have something of value to show for it still on the team, and the person that caused it all is gone.

QFT. Carl ****ing Peterson screwed it all up and now he gone.

who got the better CABLE or ASST. COACH? methinks autumn is deflecting with this bump

Albert, Charles, and Morgan > unhappy Jared Allen....Its easy to figure out. If we didnt have Albert we would have who at LT? Sackintosh? Our #2 HB would be Jackie Battle. I would much rather have Brandon Albert. Allen doesnt fit in a 3-4 anyways.

dude, battle MIGHT already be our #2. whats wrong with that? he's looking good

Our coach can beat up his coach. Maybe.

haley so crazy....

A franchise LT + some > Franchise DE.