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Gonzo 12-22-2008 12:53 PM

A Rant: Verbal Crutches
 
:cuss:

As I grow a little older each day I notice certain things about the general populous.
One thing that has been driving be insane is verbal crutches. These are little phrases people use in everyday conversations that make me want to punch a nun.

Here are a few that I've noticed recently....

1. "The thing is." Why do people feel the need to start a sentence with this particular phrase? I want to know, what is the thing? Tell me the thing! WTF is the THING!!!! Goddammit. That one ranks right up there.

2. "Expessially." You fugging moron. I worked with a guy that had a b.a. and this is how he said Especially.

3. "Irregardless." Say it to my face motherfu*ker. I dares ya. :cuss: The actually added this to the english dictionary a few years ago. (You sound like a moron if you use it FYI).

4. "I seen it." What you seen? You seen it? Who dat? Who dere? It's called english you backwoods possum eater. For Chrissakes. :shake:

5. Double Negatives: "Ain't No" or "There's not no one." It's shit like this that explains why China is taking our place on the super power throne in the next ten years.


This is just a few that really piss me off.

Here, I'll use them all in a sentence for you...

The thing is, I expecially ain't seen no one there irregardless of what you say you seen.


My head just exploded.

Sorry if repost.

phisherman 12-22-2008 12:55 PM

my most-hated is "SUPPOSEBLY".

Extra Point 12-22-2008 12:56 PM

At the end of the day, I get flustrated, all of a sudden. That work for you?

Donger 12-22-2008 12:56 PM

My personal favorite is "excetera."

Gonzo 12-22-2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5320358)
My personal favorite is "excetera."

Dammit! I forgot this one.

Molitoth 12-22-2008 12:57 PM

People that call a "laptop" a "labtop"

Donger 12-22-2008 12:59 PM

"To be honest..." So, you were basically lying to me before?

Buehler445 12-22-2008 12:59 PM

How about flusterated?

Demonpenz 12-22-2008 12:59 PM

I get tired of cliche's more than these, phrases like "we dropped the ball" instead tell me what happened exactly instead of that phrase. Work smarter.. not harder uh ok
Don't confuse work with motion
One that I do agree with for anyone who is paid by the hour and just works slowly The amount of work stretches to fill the day.

Phobia 12-22-2008 01:00 PM

I don't get all worked up about it but I feel you. This stuff is taught in English starting in 4th grade. Ain't none of it rocket science. ;)

Bowser 12-22-2008 01:01 PM

English ain't never done noone no goods, noways.

Dartgod 12-22-2008 01:01 PM

Axe me what I hate.

tooge 12-22-2008 01:02 PM

I hate when people use the words general populace together

Bowser 12-22-2008 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 5320385)
I don't get all worked up about it but I feel you. This stuff is taught in English starting in 4th grade. Ain't none of it rocket science. ;)

Why can I see the dude in your avi saying this quote? :D

blaise 12-22-2008 01:06 PM

It is what it is.

kc rush 12-22-2008 01:06 PM

I've had two advertising reps in recently who used "Expecially". One actually gave a presentation to a decent sized group and she said it repeatedly. Drove me nuts.

blaise 12-22-2008 01:09 PM

I notice that people in the midwest say, "whenever" instead of "when". "Whenever I went to the store last night I saw Joe there." "Whenever I woke up this morning I was late for work."

Bowser 12-22-2008 01:11 PM

Warshcloth or washcloth?

blaise 12-22-2008 01:12 PM

Simular instead of similar.

Gonzo 12-22-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 5320398)
I hate when people use the words general populace together

:doh!:


Suck it n00b

StcChief 12-22-2008 01:36 PM

visa-versa.

King_Chief_Fan 12-22-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 5320381)
I get tired of cliche's more than these, phrases like "we dropped the ball" instead tell me what happened exactly instead of that phrase. Work smarter.. not harder uh ok
Don't confuse work with motion
One that I do agree with for anyone who is paid by the hour and just works slowly The amount of work stretches to fill the day.

I worked with a lady who use to buther cliche's like no one's business.
take the ball and run with it

take the bull by the horns.

her translation: take the bull by the horns and run with it.

phisherman 12-22-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5320448)
Simular instead of similar.

ugh.

JuicesFlowing 12-22-2008 01:46 PM

I hate it when people say "aks" as in, "Let me aks you a question."

Gonzo 12-22-2008 01:53 PM

I used to live in St. Louis. People ther said Fark instead of Fork.

Soupnazi 12-22-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Gonzo (Post 5320623)
I used to live in St. Louis. People ther said Fark instead of Fork.

"As I was riding along narth farty on my harse, a fark that I had in my sharts stabbed me in the arse." No clue as to why they pronounce it that way.

Gonzo 12-22-2008 02:03 PM

I also hate it when people "text talk"
That shit can go away right now...lol

kc rush 12-22-2008 02:07 PM

I kind of find this one interesting (doesn't bother me). One of my best friends lives in Virginia and when we visit him we usually fly into the Norfolk airport. There you get strange looks if you pronounce the city phonetically, they say Nahfuk.

Having recently relocated to Nebraska, I've noticed the weather people here call Norfolk Nebraska - Norfork. At first I thought they were saying North Fork, but they kept pointing to Norfolk on the map.

Gonzo 12-22-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 5320673)
I kind of find this one interesting (doesn't bother me). One of my best friends lives in Virginia and when we visit him we usually fly into the Norfolk airport. There you get strange looks if you pronounce the city phonetically, they say Nahfuk.

Having recently relocated to Nebraska, I've noticed the weather people here call Norfolk Nebraska - Norfork. At first I thought they were saying North Fork, but they kept pointing to Norfolk on the map.

I liver in Omaha, that drives me nuts as well. Apparently there's some long ass story to why they call if NORFORK. It was a typo or something.

I lived in Whichita for a while, Kansas refer to the Arkansas river as the Ar-Kansas.

They also call the city of Eldorado

Eldor-AID-O...Hicks.

DJ's left nut 12-22-2008 02:16 PM

I hate that people in Missouri say Versailles -- Ver-sales.

Then there's the standard stuff such as 'for all intensive purposes'

Acrosst

Fortuitous as 'lucky'

A continued inability to use the word 'hopefully' correctly.

Calcountry 12-22-2008 02:51 PM

Someone asks me a question, I answer it, and they respond, "Oh really?"

No, I lied you dumb sob.

Bob Dole 12-22-2008 02:52 PM

Place names with the same spelling have different pronunciation depending on the region. Always have--always will.

Nevada, Missouri (1849) existed before the state of Nevada (1864). Does anyone bitch that they pronounce the state "wrong"?

notorious 12-22-2008 02:53 PM

Dip$*&^ Sharpe disapproves of this thread.

KCFalcon59 12-22-2008 03:05 PM

Nothing grates on my nerves more than someone using "Pacific" in the place of "Specific".

Calcountry 12-22-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Gonzo (Post 5320702)
I liver in Omaha, that drives me nuts as well. Apparently there's some long ass story to why they call if NORFORK. It was a typo or something.

I lived in Whichita for a while, Kansas refer to the Arkansas river as the Ar-Kansas.

They also call the city of Eldorado

Eldor-AID-O...Hicks.

What do you do to that liver? Jack Daniels?

Calcountry 12-22-2008 03:08 PM

Southerners dropping the s on plural things like, 59 cent intead of centSSSSS.

Or 45 mile, intead of milessssss.

Malcor 12-22-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5320728)
Fortuitous as 'lucky'

huh?


Main Entry: for·tu·itous
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin fortuitus; akin to Latin fort-, fors chance — more at fortune
Date: 1653
1: occurring by chance
2 a: fortunate , lucky <from a cost standpoint, the company's timing is fortuitous — Business Week> b: coming or happening by a lucky chance <belted down the stairs, and there was a fortuitous train — Doris Lessing>

Bowser 12-22-2008 03:09 PM

It's MissourEEE, not MissourRUH, goddammit.

DJ's left nut 12-22-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malcor (Post 5320914)
huh?


Main Entry: for·tu·itous
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin fortuitus; akin to Latin fort-, fors chance — more at fortune
Date: 1653
1: occurring by chance
2 a: fortunate , lucky <from a cost standpoint, the company's timing is fortuitous — Business Week> b: coming or happening by a lucky chance <belted down the stairs, and there was a fortuitous train — Doris Lessing>

The 2nd definition is a modern construct...and not accurate (much like irregardless now being in the dictionary).

Fortuitous just means by chance. It does not mean fortunate, despite the fact that they sound the same.

MikeMaslowski 12-22-2008 03:26 PM

I got into an argument with my commander... (not the smartest thing I have ever done) and after I conveyed one of my thoughts.... that ****er, who has a ****ing doctorate actually ****ing said "Well that is a MUTE point".. I just sat there with a befuddled look on my face. I wanted to stand up and say listen, you ****ing stupid piece of shit, do you have a remote that turns down the volume of my points. It's ****ing moot you ............ ugh.. sorry about the hostility but this person is supposed to lead me.

Mr. Plow 12-22-2008 03:28 PM

I've noticed that I've been saying one lately that annoys even me...and I can't stop myself from saying.

Someone will do something or say something...and I follow up with "I was going to say.........".

Bullshit Mr. Plow. You fuggin' lying ass mutha fugger....YOU ARE SAYING IT, so why is it "I was going to say....." Idiot.

MikeMaslowski 12-22-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5320951)
The 2nd definition is a modern construct...and not accurate

So, does that mean that Pluto is really still a planet?

zhawkz 12-22-2008 03:37 PM

You guys are missing the most frequent annoyers: "LIKE" and "GO"

So, like, she goes "No way!" and he goes "WAY!". It was like, so annoying so I go "blah, blah, blah..."

It's like driving me crazy.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-22-2008 03:40 PM

People talking about their pet peeves or even using the term pet peeve is a pet peeve of mine. How the **** did those two words get put together?

88TG88 12-22-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhawkz (Post 5321000)
You guys are missing the most frequent annoyers: "LIKE" and "GO"

So, like, she goes "No way!" and he goes "WAY!". It was like, so annoying so I go "blah, blah, blah..."

It's like driving me crazy.

That one really gets me pissed.

Emo_Channel_Rick 12-22-2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhawkz (Post 5321000)
You guys are missing the most frequent annoyers: "LIKE" and "GO"

So, like, she goes "No way!" and he goes "WAY!". It was like, so annoying so I go "blah, blah, blah..."

It's like driving me crazy.

I believe that the "Way" statement can more than likely be blamed on Waynes World and not valley girls.

Ok my turn. What about people that over use the word "apperently" (sp?)?

Dartgod 12-22-2008 03:49 PM

Ohhhh, here's one that bugs the crap out of me.

When someone uses "mines" instead of mine. I have a family member that does that and it makes me want to slap them silly.

Another is when someone pronounces a word like "learned" as "learnt". Herm does that shit in his press conferences.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-22-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5320915)
It's MissourEEE, not MissourRUH, goddammit.

Word. That one drives me ****ing nuts.

Donger 12-22-2008 04:01 PM

Pretty much the entire Death of the Adverb does it for me.

Dork: "Man, they played real bad."

Me: "Really badly."

Dork: "Huh?"

Me: "'Real bad' is incorrect."

Dork: "Are you sure?"

Me: ":spock:"

Frosty 12-22-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5321046)
Another is when someone pronounces a word like "learned" as "learnt". Herm does that shit in his press conferences.

Umm...

http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexper...pelling/learnt

Thig Lyfe 12-22-2008 04:04 PM

The only item on the OP list that's actually a verbal crutch is "The thing is". All the others are simply grammar/pronunciation issues.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-22-2008 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5321104)
The only item on the OP list that's actually a verbal crutch is "The thing is". All the others are simply grammar/pronunciation issues.

The thing is, that's one I use too.:D

Donger 12-22-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5321046)
Ohhhh, here's one that bugs the crap out of me.

When someone uses "mines" instead of mine. I have a family member that does that and it makes me want to slap them silly.

Another is when someone pronounces a word like "learned" as "learnt". Herm does that shit in his press conferences.

"Learnt" is common in the UK.

Dartgod 12-22-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arc (Post 5321102)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321107)
"Learnt" is common in the UK.

Quote:

Learnt is more common in British English, and learned in American English.
Ummmmm, the people I hear saying this aren't from Britain.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-22-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321107)
"Learnt" is common in the UK.

****ing idiots

Fritz88 12-22-2008 04:07 PM

"I was like", when a high schooler or first year chicks at college repeat it 30234234 times, I start to die a little inside every time I hear it.

Donger 12-22-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5321112)
Ummmmm, the people I hear saying this aren't from Britain.

Yes, it is an odd one. Hell, I actually used "windscreen" instead of "windshield" the other day.

"Herb" is another one. It is NOT "erb." Know why? IT'S GOT A fuckING 'H' IN IT!

Gonzo 12-22-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5321104)
The only item on the OP list that's actually a verbal crutch is "The thing is". All the others are simply grammar/pronunciation issues.

However, when bad grammer becomes habit, It's a little more crutchtastic.

Donger 12-22-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Gonzo (Post 5321135)
However, when bad grammer becomes habit, It's a little more crutchtastic.

Bad what?

Gonzo 12-22-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321138)
Bad what?

Caught that did ya? :D

DJ's left nut 12-22-2008 04:29 PM

The good/well distinction.

It's entirely too easy to screw up yet people never seem to get it right.

Finally, a stupid one that shouldn't bother me but does. People that preface their discussion, especially one based on opinion, by saying "I think"...no shit, you're the one saying it, I know this is what you think.

DJay23 12-22-2008 04:59 PM

A pronunciation oddity here in Central PA that I hate is when someone is talking about their COUSIN, they say cousinT. Makes me want to kick a puppy.

Bugeater 12-22-2008 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 5320673)
Having recently relocated to Nebraska, I've noticed the weather people here call Norfolk Nebraska - Norfork. At first I thought they were saying North Fork, but they kept pointing to Norfolk on the map.

God that drives me ****ing nuts, I don't know what the story is behind that nor do I care to learn. Needless to say, I don't pronounce it that way.

Thig Lyfe 12-22-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Gonzo (Post 5321135)
However, when bad grammer becomes habit, It's a little more crutchtastic.

Hmmm... not really. The reason it's called a verbal "crutch" is because you rely on it in conversation in lieu of original phrasing or words that actually mean anything, or as filler while formulating the next sentence. "Umm", "like", and "I mean" are all examples of verbal crutches. People with bad grammar or who mispronounce things aren't relying on it; rather, they're saying them out of reinforced ignorance.

lazepoo 12-22-2008 05:46 PM

At my last job, people would always end emails with "Please advise." For example:

"I found some rotting cabbage in the refrigerator. Please advise."

or

"I weigh 300 lbs and hate life. Please advise."

It got to the point where the emails were completely cryptic and filled with abbreviations and acronyms with no explanation whatsoever or a request that was really something that they should have done for themselves and then they would end it with "Please advise." In hindsight it wasn't so bad, but I still really hate the saying and feel a sting of bitterness each time I see it in an email.

Donger 12-22-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazepoo (Post 5321375)
At my last job, people would always end emails with "Please advise." For example:

"I found some rotting cabbage in the refrigerator. Please advise."

or

"I weigh 300 lbs and hate life. Please advise."

It got to the point where the emails were completely cryptic and filled with abbreviations and acronyms with no explanation whatsoever or a request that was really something that they should have done for themselves and then they would end it with "Please advise." In hindsight it wasn't so bad, but I still really hate the saying and feel a sting of bitterness each time I see it in an email.

Boy, you must really hate it when people say/write, "Please advice."

ClevelandBronco 12-22-2008 06:01 PM

Not understanding the difference between "fewer" and "less."

"They got their asses kicked because they had less guys."

FEWER, damn it. Fewer.

ClevelandBronco 12-22-2008 06:03 PM

I'd also appreciate it if everyone would learn the difference between "infer" and "imply."

Thig Lyfe 12-22-2008 06:06 PM

This thread is now about almost everything linguistic except verbal crutches....

Donger 12-22-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5321430)
This thread is now about almost everything linguistic except verbal crutches....

Yes, we've changed the paradigm.

ClevelandBronco 12-22-2008 06:07 PM

More to the point on the fewer/less confusion:

You have less chocolate. You have fewer Hershey's Kisses.

Donger 12-22-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 5321435)
More to the point on the fewer/less confusion:

You have less chocolate. You have fewer Hershey's Kisses.

Man, you really think outside the box. Big picture.

lazepoo 12-22-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321385)
Boy, you must really hate it when people say/write, "Please advice."

:shake:

I'm bitter just thinking about it.

ClevelandBronco 12-22-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321434)
Yes, we've changed the paradigm.

I HATE THAT WORD!

And "conflate" can be put in the toilet with it.

blaise 12-22-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 5321265)
A pronunciation oddity here in Central PA that I hate is when someone is talking about their COUSIN, they say cousinT. Makes me want to kick a puppy.

When I lived in Central PA the people would say, "How's come?" instead of "How come?"

ClevelandBronco 12-22-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321438)
Man, you really think outside the box. Big picture.

I'm going to need your address and the times you're most likely to be home.

Donger 12-22-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 5321443)
I HATE THAT WORD!

And "conflate" can be put in the toilet with it.

I had an engineering co-worker that used it all the time. Unfortunately, he pronounced it: "para dig um."

Donger 12-22-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 5321447)
I'm going to need your address and the times you're most likely to be home.

Why?

ClevelandBronco 12-22-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5321450)
Why?

Think outside the box, man. Look at the big picture.

headsnap 12-22-2008 06:16 PM

"with that being said, let me ask you this..."

a drummer in an old band of mine would say that constantly


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