How soon after the game on sunday will a new GM be announced?
 

I think Clark Hunt may have something in the works already that can be announced soon after sunday. I think it could happen quickly. Also, I think Herm could be gone very soon after the new GM is announced. I don't think they'll dilly dally around.

You think Clark Hunt may have something in the works already that can be announced soon after sunday? You think it could happen quickly? Also, You think Herm could be gone very soon after the new GM is announced? You don't think they'll dilly dally around?

If they're going after anyone who's with a current team, they can't even talk to them until they're done for the season. Because of that, they can't have even interviewed anyone yet. I'd be VERY surprised if we hear anything within at least a week after the season ends.

I'm assuming we won't hear anything until after the SB.

I thought they could with the teams permission.

Interesting enough from a Lions website:

Marty and Cowher aren't employed by an NFL team right now.

The Falcons hired Dimitroff before the Pats played in the Super Bowl, so I don't see any reason why we couldn't start to hear info on candidates and a decision within the next couple weeks.

They said on 810 yesterday that "inside sources" were telling them Herm could be fired as early as Monday.

Dear God Please NO!!!!!!!!

I think it depends on whether or not that Pats make the playoffs. I think we will have a GM before the Super Bowl, and the Herm thing will be determined by then as well. GM once the Pats are done, HC 1 week after the SB.

DEAR GOD PLEASE YES!!!!!!

There must be a God..

I have a feeling after each ensuing debacle, Herm will be let go before the new GM is here...

Otherwise he wouldnt of told his asst coaches to start looking elsewhere. That is unless, Herm is getting ready for some serious bus chucking in an attempt to save his own weasel ass...

Yes, I hope so. I could see that happening. But, Clark said he would let the new GM decide Herm's fate. I don't think a new GM could be hired THAT quickly.

I hope we don't have to wait too long, simply because I'd like to know the direction the team is going to move in. However this better not be a decision that Clark rushes by any means. This is arguably going to be the most important hire for the Chiefs for the next 5 years at least. Take the time necessary, but pull the trigger right away when the right guy is available.

Cowher for HC = YES!

Marty for GM = Meh.

But has to be people that don't have full control over personnel. I would highly doubt Scott Pioli has full control.

I'd like to see us snag Eric DeCosta and just get this over with.

Ahh...yeah, I'd forgotten about that. Still, I haven't ever figured out what a team's motivation would be to give another team permission in the first place. I'd think that would be a big distraction if they're in the middle of a playoff run.

I doubt that we will hear much publicly on who is or isn't a candidate. It protects the team and the person if things don't work out.

As the article states it's up to the team to grant permission to other teams while they are still playing. I think the key from the article is that once permission is granted to one team you must grant to all teams making a request. That may make an impact on teams granting "early" permission this year. Another thing to keep in mind a candidate may not want to interview until their team is done playing regardless of permission from the current employer.

Short of a friend of a friend who thought they saw someone at the airport; I doubt we'll hear anything until after the AFC/NFC Championship games.

I keep reading in these posts about NE -- has there been anything more hinted about Pioli, or is it pure speculation?

It depends on the person I suppose. Some of those people are probably not high profile so they won't garner much attention plus their jobs duties are probably light until the end of the season.

IMHO it is really up to the coaching staff now to be successful in the playoffs the front office is really out of the picture.

An "810 source inside Arrowhead" is code for we just make this up and don't want to be responsible for what we say. Anybody remember KK's inside sources that were going to expose the NFL drug ring at Arrowhead?

Pure speculation

That would be a FAIL hire, Clark said he wanted Fresh Ideas and outlook on the franchise, not reliving the past with Marty Jr....

The best we can hope for is

GM's
Pioli
Ross
Poilan

HC's
Spags
OC from NE...

I would guess 1 to 2 months after the last game.

I read somewhere that McDaniels will follow Pioli. That's not really news, but the same article said that McDaniels would also be the first choice of Polian.

If they are after any playoff team it will have to wait.

Then how could you go wrong with either GM? both would be a solid hire and both would get the best coaches in here to rebuild this mess Herm and Carl are leaving us...

This.

I don't know about McDaniels... Weis and Crennel haven't been that good. Really I don't think Manguini is that good either.

I think that's pure speculation. I'm guessing one writer tried to put two and two together, and then everyone else is running with it.

Fair Enough, take either of the 3 GM's and match them with Spagnula from NYG and you might have a pretty decent foundation to build upon?

It's funny you mention Marc Ross, he has not received much hype on here at all but he seems like just as likely a candidate as DeCosta. He's the young, intelligent, hot shot GM with loads of draft experience that most on here seem to want.

DeCosta, Can you give me a little background on him... I am not as up to date on him as the others...

Thanks in advance.

He's been the Director of College Scouting for the Ravens since 2003 - same position as Ross. He's basically 2nd in command to Ozzie Newsome in Baltimore.

Ravens director of college scouting

:clap:

Rep, much appreciated, going to go read up on him...

DeCosta or Ross is who I want. I want to stay far away as possible from Piolli.

Rep for the info, appreciate it!

[QUOTE=Reerun_KC;5323052]I have a feeling after each ensuing debacle, Herm will be let go before the new GM is here...

Otherwise he wouldnt of told his asst coaches to start looking elsewhere. That is unless, Herm is getting ready for some serious bus chucking in an attempt to save his own weasel ass...[/QUOTE]

That would never happen, Herm is always willing to take blame for his failure. Just listen to any of his post game pressers and you will hear him admit his mistakes...........or not.

Please, please, please God let this be true. That would make me so happy. http://smilies.vidahost.com/ups/kami...lie_switch.gif

i doubt it happns until after the super bowl


i ASSume that Clark will want to at least talk to scott pioli and chris polian ........ both will require them to wait until after the SB.

No it won't unless the Pats and Colts deny permission.

Neither one of them have full control over personnel.

Now as far as when it will be decided who knows but they don't have to wait to interview those guys as long as they get permission.

that pats have already denied permission to teams before.

both are consider "high level" imo and not eligible for the teams to approach before the super bowl

VP = high level
Defensive Backs coach = low level

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Why?

Pats spinoffs haven't been very successful
so far

Edit: You could be right though it seems in this article only people that have full control can't be interviewed.

You are right though the teams can deny permission.

I guess that would mean, Clark would have already hired the new GM then. That or Herm up and retires. I don't see it playing out that way. I bet we don't hear anything until after the SB. Guy like Paolli "sp" aren't going to interview for a new position while their team is in the playoff's.

810 also said Herm was pushing for Kurhiric(spelling)
and when that didn't go over with Clark
the talk of burn out/retirement/baby squalling set in

Well for the Pats that may well be on Sunday :D

I don't know why people continue to bring up Polian. The Colts have denied permission to interview him three teams the last two years, and it's all but set in stone that he will take over control once his dad retires.

I honestly didn't know they denied him from interviewing.

He was my favorite and now you ruined my Christmas. Thanks alot eazy. :deevee:

:D

Not just GM but the rest of the personell department on down will be interesting how that fills out. First with Kuharich. He might not be able to get another GM shot because of the Ricky williams trade and be like Al Saunders was when Gun got HC. Saunders of course left and Kuharich could take the same route. Who knows what his feelings are on the matter.

So actually, a guy Like DeCosta as Director of College Scouting could be brought in as an asst. GM or VP of player personell(Kuharich's current title) and it would still be a promotion.

It will be interesting what happens to Ray Farmer too. He came in the same time as Herm as director of Pro personell.

a front office hard knocks show
should spring up overnight HBO

Yeah, he doesn't want to leave in any case. Not a realistic candidate, but the Chiefs should ask anyway.

Rubbish. Clark specifically said the new GM will have a strong input on the coach, so he's not going to go against that and fire Herm before hiring a GM, which in itself won't happen before mid-January at the earliest.

"Ray... Ray Farmer wants to see you in his office....bring your playbook."

Give me a break! The NFL draft is in April! :cuss:

Maybe he meant he'll have strong input on the NEW coach, because Herm"s ass is gone. I know, I'm just lying to myself to make me feel good.

Wonder if anyone played that trick on Carl recently

And free agency starts in February, IIRC.

Not sure if the Pats needed to give permission for that or not. Nonetheless, it's more than clear based on Dimitroff's statements that he and the Pats had a very friendly parting. It was also an obvious promotion for him.

Pats have argued in the past (for whatever it is worth), that Pioli is the GM and that the Pats would need comp for him if someone wants him. It may be a weak argument, but that's the rumor anyway.

Aren't you a bit overly focused on Pioli? :D

Pats have ARGUED it. Not sure it's true, but they have argued that they will need comp to have him.

GM's are open market. What will they do, refuse to accept his resignation?

Soooooo, WE get a shot @ him but surrender our first round draft pick - :cuss:

He's not. :D

No idea what round Pats would be looking for. They might settle for less just to resolve the matter without going to arbitration over whether any comp is necessary.

Why would this be so different than when we gave draft comp for Vermeil or Herm?

You are incorrect. In general, if the person is under contract, then you can't hire them away without giving comp unless it's a promotion, which in the case of GMs means they move from a position in which they do not have final say on all personnel matters to one in which they do have final say.

You can't resign when you're under contract.

we will promote him then:D

As I've said, the Pats maintain that Pioli does have final say already, in that it's joint with Belichick or something. It's odd, but they've stuck to that line for years now.

Is this a race or something? I know we all clamor to get news every minute of the day but man. I'd rather he took his time. This is a 20 year decision - not a 20 day one. Let it marinate, dude.

I'm guessing he's been "marinating" this one since the end of last season, fwiw...

We should not give draft picks for him. Too many other good ones out there. The last time we gave picks for a leader it didn't turn out so well...

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Free agency is in February and the draft is in April. This team needs to get its ass in gear.

**** the pats on compensation, lets just give them our practice tapes