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EyePod 12-30-2008 08:24 AM

Titans are already trying to sign Haynesworth
 
Looks like the Titans are already trying to sign Haynesworth. I know a lot of people around here want him... I think he would cost WAY too much.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3799687

Agent: Talks in beginning stages

By Paul Kuharsky

<!-- end page tools --> <!-- begin story body --> <!-- template inline -->NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Tennessee Titans are now able to talk contract with Albert Haynesworth, their Pro Bowl defensive tackle who played this season as the team's designated franchise player.<!-- begin whole table -->
<!-- end sidebar table -->The rules of the tag prohibit a team from negotiating with the player on a long-term deal until the regular season is complete.
Haynesworth's agent, Chad Speck, said via e-mail that he fielded a call from Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt on Monday.
"Mike called me today and expressed the Titans' interest to begin negotiations on a long-term deal for Albert," Speck wrote. "We had a preliminary discussion and our talks are in the very early stages. It is my intent to keep any future conversations I have with the Titans regarding Albert's contract private for the time being. I would echo coach [Jeff] Fisher's comments by saying that Albert is focused on getting his knee healthy and continuing his dominating play in the playoffs.
Haynesworth signed the $7.25 million tender deal in July after he and the team agreed on incentives that provided five different avenues for him to ensure the team could not tag him a second time. If Haynesworth met just one, he'd be cleared to become an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 27.
Haynesworth, who missed the last two regular-season games with a sprained knee but is expected back for the team's Jan. 10 playoff game, was named to the AFC Pro Bowl roster on Dec. 16. That was one of the incentives and made it official that he could not be tagged again in 2009.
The Titans now have an exclusive negotiating window of just over two months. Haynesworth could be in line to become the highest-paid defensive player in the league.
"Clearly we've expressed a great deal of interest, as he has, in working things out," Fisher said. "We'll move forward, but the most important thing right now is the playoffs and getting him ready. Getting him back on the practice field, getting him ready to play at the level he was before he got hurt."

MOhillbilly 12-30-2008 08:28 AM

i wouldnt want to see haynesworth here with herm as HC. Coach Fisher is a leader of men.haynesworth is abit on the loose cannon side. i dont know WTF herm is but i do know he aint no Jeff Fisher.

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2008 08:28 AM

If we want any big free agents, we're gonna have to overpay. I believe this guy is worth it.

Pushead2 12-30-2008 08:31 AM

One way to help our crappy Defense

Mi_chief_fan 12-30-2008 08:34 AM

Well, we passed on him & John Henderson for Ryan Sims. Obviously, that move panned out.

Chiefnj2 12-30-2008 08:35 AM

Their GM is handling it all wrong. He has to tell Haynesworth he's a risk because of his on field issues and that he won't negotiate until after the postseason.

beach tribe 12-30-2008 08:35 AM

We could pay him more than they could.....and he would be worth every penny.

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 08:37 AM

If I was the Titans I'd try and sign him long-term,too. He's a great DT and I would love to have him on the Chiefs.

MOhillbilly 12-30-2008 08:38 AM

really wanna help the D? i dont think you guys understand the situation the chargers are in. maybe? anyway this is the guy who would make us contenders in one fell swoop.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...man/index.html

KC_Lee 12-30-2008 08:39 AM

Living down here in NashVegas I might be able to shed a little light on this. The agreement that Haynesworth signed last year was signed with the understanding that if Albert hit certian stats he would be allowed to shop himself on the free agent market.

That being said the Cheifs will have to over pay to get him to come the KC.

My two cents, take it for what it's worth....and that ain't much.

blaise 12-30-2008 08:43 AM

I get the impression that Haynesworth could go full blown turd when he gets his money.

MOhillbilly 12-30-2008 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5339672)
I get the impression that Haynesworth will go full blown turd when he gets his money.

fyp.

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5339663)
really wanna help the D? i dont think you guys understand the situation the chargers are in. maybe? anyway this is the guy who would make us contenders in one fell swoop.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...man/index.html

Once he got off the roids he hasnt been the same.

beach tribe 12-30-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 5339664)
Living down here in NashVegas I might be able to shed a little light on this. The agreement that Haynesworth signed last year was signed with the understanding that if Albert hit certian stats he would be allowed to shop himself on the free agent market.

That being said the Cheifs will have to over pay to get him to come the KC.

My two cents, take it for what it's worth....and that ain't much.

Heh Heh.
I'm from TN, and lived in Nashville for a while.
We called it NashVegas when we were younger.
Just thought that was funny. It brought back some memories.

Carry on.....

MOhillbilly 12-30-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5339682)
Once he got off the roids he hasnt been the same.

ya right. tell that to a OC in the nfl.

Chiefnj2 12-30-2008 08:54 AM

People want to bust the bank on the guy when the Chiefs just used a top 5 draft pick on the guy they could develop into their own Haynesworth?

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5339692)
ya right. tell that to a OC in the nfl.

I don't need to, I've seen it first hand. He was an exceptional player, then he got caught for 'roids and hasn't been the same since. He's also coming off a major injury.

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5339698)
People want to bust the bank on the guy when the Chiefs just used a top 5 draft pick on the guy they could develop into their own Haynesworth?

Dorsey will never be a NOSE Tackle, he's an UNDERTACKLE. We need the mammoth nose tackle to shore up the D-line, and give Dorsey the support he needs to become a dominant DT.

Delano 12-30-2008 09:09 AM

You'd still need a pass rushing DE.

EyePod 12-30-2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5339663)
really wanna help the D? i dont think you guys understand the situation the chargers are in. maybe? anyway this is the guy who would make us contenders in one fell swoop.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...man/index.html

I never want Shawne Merriman on this team. I would be happy when he made a tackle, but I would hate having someone with such bad character to be a Chief. LJ has his problems, but he's never cheated. He just shows those bitches who's boss.

EyePod 12-30-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5339718)
Dorsey will never be a NOSE Tackle, he's an UNDERTACKLE. We need the mammoth nose tackle to shore up the D-line, and give Dorsey the support he needs to become a dominant DT.

Isn't a nose tackle only in the 3-4? Or do you call the left DT a nose tackle too.... I'm confused!

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5339733)
Isn't a nose tackle only in the 3-4? Or do you call the left DT a nose tackle too.... I'm confused!

It's the over and under tackles in the 4-3. The over can be referred to as the nose tackle. The term Nose tackle is typically used for a 3-4, but it can also be used to to indicate the bigger of the two tackles, which is why I used it in this case.

DJ's left nut 12-30-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5339672)
I get the impression that Haynesworth could go full blown turd when he gets his money.

Then at worst you have Ted Washington, who wasn't a bad player in his own right.

Haynesworth is worth the big money deal, IMO.

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2008 09:25 AM

He and Dorsey would be a force in the middle.

beach tribe 12-30-2008 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5339698)
People want to bust the bank on the guy when the Chiefs just used a top 5 draft pick on the guy they could develop into their own Haynesworth?

2 different kind of players, and Dorsey would benefit greatly with guy like Haynesworth next to him.

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2008 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5339718)
Dorsey will never be a NOSE Tackle, he's an UNDERTACKLE. We need the mammoth nose tackle to shore up the D-line, and give Dorsey the support he needs to become a dominant DT.

This

BigMeatballDave 12-30-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5339719)
You'd still need a pass rushing DE.

Suggs. We have the cap space.

EyePod 12-30-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5339741)
It's the over and under tackles in the 4-3. The over can be referred to as the nose tackle. The term Nose tackle is typically used for a 3-4, but it can also be used to to indicate the bigger of the two tackles, which is why I used it in this case.

So Tank is our over tackle on our team. Just a space eater/run stuffer, right?

Agent V 12-30-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5339637)
i wouldnt want to see haynesworth here with herm as HC. Coach Fisher is a leader of men.haynesworth is abit on the loose cannon side. i dont know WTF herm is but i do know he aint no Jeff Fisher.

Well, Herm got a "C" this year, so he's average.

Even in a joking tone, it's difficult to utter that sentence.

Chiefnj2 12-30-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5339748)
2 different kind of players, and Dorsey would benefit greatly with guy like Haynesworth next to him.

IMO, you don't make a space eater the highest paid player at DT.

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5339790)
So Tank is our over tackle on our team. Just a space eater/run stuffer, right?

No he's another undertackle. The only person even close to being a overtackle is Boone and they lined him up as the DE-square pegs in round holes.

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5339798)
IMO, you don't make a space eater the highest paid player at DT.

I think you do, when that space-eater also gets after the QB and is dominate against the run. He also would help make Dorsey a better player, which would give us a pass-rush up the middle, which helps the DEs, which helps, the LBers, etc, etc. Dominate defenses have dominate DTs.

suds79 12-30-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5339718)
Dorsey will never be a NOSE Tackle, he's an UNDERTACKLE. We need the mammoth nose tackle to shore up the D-line, and give Dorsey the support he needs to become a dominant DT.

:thumb: Right on man. I've been saying from some time now that part of our problem is our lack of size on the D-line.

I'm guessing that, according to what they're listed at, Dorsey & Tyler have to be close to some of the smallest starting DT tandom in the league.

EyePod 12-30-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5339791)
Well, Herm got a "C" this year, so he's average.

Even in a joking tone, it's difficult to utter that sentence.

How did Herm get a "C"?

RINGLEADER 12-30-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5339672)
I get the impression that Haynesworth could go full blown turd when he gets his money.

That seems to happen a lot with DTs. They put up monster stats in their contract years, get paid by some team with a short memory, then disappear for the rest of their careers.

Chester McGlockton
Warren Sapp
Bryant Young
Dana Stubblefield
etc., etc.

RINGLEADER 12-30-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5339877)
That seems to happen a lot with DTs. They put up monster stats in their contract years, get paid by some team with a short memory, then disappear for the rest of their careers.

Chester McGlockton
Warren Sapp
Bryant Young
Dana Stubblefield
etc., etc.

Although Warren Sapp did have one good season with the Raiders...

WilliamTheIrish 12-30-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 5339649)
Well, we passed on him & John Henderson for Ryan Sims. Obviously, that move panned out.

One of the great moves of the DV/CP era.

ToxSocks 12-30-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5339651)
Their GM is handling it all wrong. He has to tell Haynesworth he's a risk because of his on field issues and that he won't negotiate until after the postseason.

That's how a real man would do it

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5339877)
That seems to happen a lot with DTs. They put up monster stats in their contract years, get paid by some team with a short memory, then disappear for the rest of their careers.

Chester McGlockton
Warren Sapp
Bryant Young
Dana Stubblefield
etc., etc.

I would say the Titans wanting to re-sign him is a pretty good indicator they don't share your view.

blaise 12-30-2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5339989)
I would say the Titans wanting to re-sign him is a pretty good indicator they don't share your view.


It depends on how much they're willing to pay him.

BigChiefFan 12-30-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5340038)
It depends on how much they're willing to pay him.

No. It means they want him back.

DJ's left nut 12-30-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Jesus (Post 5339883)
That's how a real man would do it

Only if he were a tough sonofabitch negotiator.


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